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Jun 9, 2014 16:51:36   #
BoJester wrote:
People who do not think about what they try to post are the d********g ones for being stupid.

Think about it, if all businesses have the same labor costs, then the playing field is level.

Maybe the management is bad, but that is not the fault of the workers.

You claim you are in college, then perhaps a basic business and economics course would be beneficial
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Jun 9, 2014 16:25:32   #
BoJester wrote:
Well if the owner and manager are so stupid and short sighted, then when the remaining employees walk off the job, these two i***ts will have to close some of their stores.

The trademark of conservative stupidity, cut workers instead of growing the business.

Tell the r****ds to study how the Costco business model works, and for that matter, study Starbucks


you legitimately make me laugh
please see my profile picture.
I am not a conservative.
you don't know what else to do but resort to insults.
I am done with you. you are a sad being. to insult my uncle in the hopes to get me angry is lower than I have casually seen you.
you disgust me.
what are you if not human?
you like so many do nothing but insult and wave your arms in this deafening ocean of people like you in this country, minds all changed to succumb to fear and false rationality of misanalysed and manufactured "facts" of shear bias and hatred and hypocrisy. speak with facts and logic and moral values and site sources. then I will come to respect you, even if you disagree with me. my rant is over, back to being a gentleman...
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Jun 9, 2014 15:44:50   #
BoJester wrote:
An easliy proven LIE!!!

This is because of a greedy business owner, a teaparty conservative republican no doubt.

The law does not take effect until April 2015, and will be phased in over several years.

Just more proof that conservtives will believe any lie that rightwing media gives them

So sad to be so stupid


uh Bo, I live here.
my uncle, a manager of over 6 Subways and a Peta Express whom I happen to live with is already making plans with the owner of the stores as to who they are going to cut, who's hours are being lengthened and other such changes that will stretch a handful of workers to do the job of a full 6 stores.
this isn't affecting much yet, however when it is put in place over half the employed in those six stores alone will be let go or cut hours.
this is the first time I have ever said this to my knowledge: you need to shut up.
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Jun 9, 2014 15:34:46   #
[quote=mwdegutis]I apologize in advance for the length of my post but this is extremely serious and can’t be buried in some obscure thread. All political views aside, there is something VERY unethical and illegal going on in the “friendly” confines of One Political Plaza (OPP). I happened to notice recently that at least five times it was mentioned that OPP member Glaucon is doing some type of psychological research. Based on these observations, I concluded that Glaucon’s research includes the members of this website, albeit unknowingly. This would explain a lot about his/her approach to how he/she posts and interacts with OPP members.

So I was wondering and posted to Glaucon in a thread…He/she has said I never ask questions. Well here is a condensed version of that thread:



Interesting comments...this leads me to believe that in fact, Glaucon is conducting unapproved psychological studies on all OPP members. So let’s review…

“I am in full compliance with APA standards although there is no need for me to be.”

Kind of sounds like someone else we know but I digress. Not only do I respectfully submit that Glaucon is NOT in full compliance with APA standards, he/she has also crossed both ethical and legal boundaries and on a minor note, possibly OPP rules. Case in point:

Concerning APA and ethical requirements:
American Psychological Association “Ethical Principles of Psychologists and Code of Conduct”:
3.10 Informed Consent
When psychologists conduct research they obtain the informed consent of the individual or individuals using language that is reasonably understandable to that person or persons…

8.02 Informed Consent to Research
When obtaining informed consent as required in Standard 3.10, Informed Consent, psychologists inform participants about: (1) the purpose of the research, expected duration and procedures; (2) their right to decline to participate and to withdraw from the research once participation has begun; (3) the foreseeable consequences of declining or withdrawing; (4) reasonably foreseeable factors that may be expected to influence their willingness to participate such as potential risks, discomfort or adverse effects; (5) any prospective research benefits; (6) limits of confidentiality; (7) incentives for participation; and (8) [b]whom to contact for questions about the research and research participants' rights. They provide opportunity for the prospective participants to ask questions and receive answers.

Concerning legal rights and the rights of human subjects:
In any research on human beings, each potential subject must be adequately informed of the aims, methods, anticipated benefits and potential hazards of the study, and the discomfort it may entail. He or she should be informed that he or she is at liberty to abstain from participation in the study, and that he or she is free to withdraw his or her consent to participation at any time. The physician should then obtain the subject's freely-given informed consent, preferably in writing.

LAWS RELATED TO THE PROTECTION OF HUMAN SUBJECTS
FDA Regulations
Informed consent
[Code of Federal Regulations]
[Title 21, Volume 1]
[Revised as of April 1, 2001]

PROTECTION OF HUMAN SUBJECTS
General requirements for informed consent
No investigator may involve a human being as a subject in research covered by these regulations unless the investigator has obtained the legally effective informed consent of the subject or the subject's legally authorized representative. An investigator shall seek such consent only under circumstances that provide the prospective subject or the representative sufficient opportunity to consider whether or not to participate and that minimize the possibility of coercion or undue influence. The information that is given to the subject or the representative shall be in language understandable to the subject or the representative. No informed consent, whether oral or written, may include any exculpatory language through which the subject or the representative is made to waive or appear to waive any of the subject's legal rights, or releases or appears to release the investigator, the sponsor, the institution, or its agents from liability for negligence.

So there you have it. Based on the evidence, I, and to the best of my knowledge, everyone else on this website have been the subjects of a psychological study and have never given our consent for Glaucon to conduct research on us. Therefore, we have unethically and illegally been involuntary test subjects. So one of my questions is, given APA’s “Ethical Principles of Psychologists and Code of Conduct” 8.02 Informed Consent to Research edict concerning incentives for participation, how are we going to be compensated? Another is how should Glaucon be held accountable for these egregiously unethical and illegal offenses?

Considering the seriousness of this post, I am posting this to the forum at large to inform you of this matter. If you choose to, PLEASE only post serious replies.[/quote]
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OK OK OK SLOW DOWN. what thread was this, please link it so I can see this entire conversation myself.
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Jun 9, 2014 13:53:17   #
that is illegal under the UN so we would have to do that in secret. its not that simple either.
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Jun 6, 2014 15:03:39   #
I will watch as soon as I get home.
this sounds very intriguing.
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Jun 6, 2014 14:59:15   #
welcome
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Jun 6, 2014 14:58:51   #
edit*
actually I agree upon re reading.
thought you were saying something different
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Jun 6, 2014 14:32:42   #
Patty wrote:
http://www.denverpost.com/nationworld/ci_25912572/oklahoma-governor-signs-bill-repealing-common-core

"Oklahoma governor signs bill repealing Common Core

Tim Talley Associated Press

Posted: 06/06/2014 11:34:33 AM MDTAdd a Comment

Updated: 06/06/2014 11:34:33 AM MDT






OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) — Gov. Mary Fallin has signed legislation making Oklahoma the third state to repeal the Common Core education standards, saying the federal government's attempt to influence state education policy is reason enough to abolish the math and English guidelines that had been scheduled to take effect in the upcoming school year.

The bill, overwhelmingly passed in the House and Senate on the final day of the 2014 Legislature, requires the state to return to old standards in place before 2010 and calls for new ones to be developed by 2016. It requires all new standards and revisions to be subject to legislative review.

"We are very capable as Oklahomans of developing our own Oklahoma standards to make sure that our children receive the highest quality education possible in our state," Fallin said after signing the bill Thursday.

The Common Core standards are part of an initiative of the National Governors Association — currently chaired by Fallin — to outline what students are expected to know by each grade level and were adopted on a state-by-state basis as part of an effort to improve the readiness of high school graduates. They have been adopted by more than 40 other states, but there has been growing concern, especially among grass-roots conservatives, that the standards represent a federal takeover of state education.

Fallin tried to placate those concerns in December by signing an executive order stating Oklahoma would be responsible for deciding how to implement the standards, but it continued to be a d******e issue in the state.

After Indiana — one of the first states to introduce Common Core — repealed the standards in March, supporters and critics said they had been replaced with new standards that varied little from the federal guidelines. Similarly in South Carolina, where the standards were dropped last month but the changes don't take place until the 2015-2016 school year, Common Core supporters have suggested they expect little change from the standards when state-devised rules are introduced. A bill to repeal the standards is on the governor's desk in Missouri.

Nationally, opposition to the once below-the-radar standards is multidimensional. They are the cause of a split in the Republican Party between the business-backed Chamber of Commerce and conservatives concerned about the loss of local control in schools. Meanwhile teachers' unions, traditionally part of the Democratic base, have complained about a lack of training for teachers and other aspects of how the standards have been implemented.

The federal government has offered some incentives to states that adopt college and career ready standards such as Common Core. Fallin said "it's a possibility" that repeal of the standards could affect education dollars received by the state.

Former supporter of the Common Core standards, Oklahoma State Superintendent of Education Janet Barresi, praised the repeal.

"As it has become entangled with federal government ... Common Core has become too difficult and inflexible," Barresi said.

The more rigorous standards had been supported by the business community, including the politically powerful State Chamber.

Mike Neal, president and CEO of the Tulsa Regional Chamber, said Fallin's decision to sign the bill "is a massive disappointment" to educators, administrators and business leaders who have tried to develop internationally benchmarked but locally controlled academic standards.

"Governor Fallin and the Oklahoma Legislature have reneged on their promise to Oklahoma's students, bending to political hysteria at the expense of our children and the quality of our future workforce," Neal said.

The Oklahoma Academic Standards, which are aligned with Common Core standards in English and mathematics, were scheduled to be reflected in tests administered to students next year, and more than 60 percent of the school districts in the state already have aligned curriculum with the new standards, according to state education officials.

Shawn Hime, executive director of the Oklahoma State School Boards Association, said Fallin's decision will cause chaos as schools prepare for a new academic year.

"This decision is not good for Oklahoma's schools, and it's not good for Oklahoma's kids," he said.
http://www.denverpost.com/nationworld/ci_25912572/... (show quote)


looks like my home state woke up.
good.
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Jun 6, 2014 14:08:45   #
JMHO wrote:
Commenting recently on the Elliot Rodger k*****gs, arch-l*****t Michael Moore wrote that while “other countries have more violent pasts…more guns per capita in their homes…and the kids in most other countries watch the same violent movies and play the same violent video games that our kids play, no one even comes close to k*****g as many of its own citizens on a daily basis as we do….” From a man who used to take the simple-minded gun-control position “fewer guns = less homicide,” it was surprising evidence of growth. After making his point, however, Moore made a mistake in following up with, “and yet we don't seem to want to ask ourselves this simple question: "Why us? What is it about US?” It’s not, however, that we don’t want to ask the question.

It’s that we don’t want to hear the answer.

We can begin seeking it by asking another question: Why is it that Vermont, with approximately the same rate of gun ownership as Louisiana, has less than one-eighth the murder rate? Even more strikingly, why does New Hampshire have both a far higher gun ownership rate and a lower murder rate than England, Piers Morgan’s favorite poster-boy nation for gun control?

Professor Thomas Sowell provided more of these seeming contradictions in 2012, writing:

When it comes to the rate of gun ownership, that is higher in rural areas than in urban areas, but the murder rate is higher in urban areas. The rate of gun ownership is higher among w****s than among b****s, but the murder rate is higher among b****s.

… (There are also) countries with stronger gun control laws than the United States, such as Russia, Brazil and Mexico. All of these countries have higher murder rates than the United States.

You could compare other sets of countries and get similar results. Gun ownership has been three times as high in Switzerland as in Germany, but the Swiss have had lower murder rates. Other countries with high rates of gun ownership and low murder rates include Israel, New Zealand, and Finland.


So what’s the answer we don’t want to hear? The critical difference among these regions and nations is explained right in Sowell’s title: it’s “not guns.”

“It's people.”

What “people” differences are relevant? Let’s start with race and ethnicity. In the cases of homicide in 2012 in which the races of the perpetrators were known, 55 percent were committed by b****s, 62 percent of whom were under 30 years of age. Black youths are 16 percent of the youth population, but constitute 52 percent of those arrested for juvenile violent crime.

The statistics for Hispanics are more difficult to ferret out because, unbeknownst to many, law enforcement agencies tend to lump them in with w****s in crime statistics (the FBI has announced that it will finally categorize Hispanic crime — in its report on 2013). However, there is some information available. Examiner’s Ken LaRive tells us that “Hispanics commit three times more violent crimes than w****s,” but that the disparity could be even greater because of their often being classified as white.

The National Youth Gang Survey Analysis reports that gang members are approximately 49 percent Hispanic, 35 percent black and 10 percent white. And while w****s are 35 percent of NYC’s population, b****s and Hispanics commit 96 percent of all crime in the Big Apple and 98 percent of all gun crime.

Another good indicator is international crime statistics. Hispanic countries dominate the homicide-rate rankings, with Honduras topping the list with a rate eight times as high as that of our worst state, Louisiana. Also note that there are no European/European descent nations in the top 20 and not one Western-tradition nation in the top 30 (Russia and Moldova are 24 and 28, respectively).

And what can we say about these “people” differences? It’s much as with the question of why men are more likely to be drunkards than women. You could explore whether the differences were attributable to nature, nurture or both. But it would be silly to wonder if the answer lay in men having greater access to bars, alcohol or shot glasses.

This brings us to why covering up minority criminality encourages gun control:

Americans won’t understand that the critical factor is people differences if they aren’t told about the people differences.

They will then — especially since most citizens aren’t even aware that there are nations with more firearms but less murder — be much more likely to blame guns. Of course, this is precisely what you want if you’re a left-wing media propagandist.

There is a question that could now be posed by the other side: if the main difference in criminality is demographics, why not outlaw guns? After all, it won’t make a difference one way or the other, right? I’ll offer a couple of answers to this question.

First, for a people to maintain just liberties, a freedom must always be considered innocent until proven guilty; the burden of proof is not on those who would retain it, but on those who would take it away.

Second, while private gun ownership and just law enforcement can’t turn barbarians into civilized people any more than excellent schools can t***sform dunces into geniuses, they can act as mitigating factors that minimize criminality as much as possible given the “raw material” with which the particular society has to work. It’s much as how you can maximize your personal safety: you may be safer in a great neighborhood with no martial arts training than in a terrible one with that training. Nonetheless, it allows you to be safer than you would be otherwise wh**ever neighborhood you choose.

And what do the stats show in our fair to middling USA neighborhood? Florida State University criminologist Gary Kleck reported that guns are used by good citizens 2.2 to 2.5 million times per year to deter crime. That likely saves many more innocent lives than are lost in massacres every year, but these unseen non-victims don’t make headlines the way Sandy Hook tragedies do. That’s why I like to say, using a twist on a Frédéric Bastiat line, a bad social analyst observes only what can be seen. A good social analyst observes what can be seen — and what must be foreseen.

Lastly, one more t***h becomes evident upon recognizing that demographics are the main factor in criminality: even if you do believe in gun control, imposing it federally and applying a one-size fits all standard is ridiculous. In terms of people and crime, there’s a world of difference between towns in New Hampshire or Vermont, with their England-level murder rates, and cities such as East St. Louis, IL, or Detroit, which rival El Salvador in citizen lethality. You can make gun control the same everywhere, but you can’t change the fact that people will be very, very different.
Commenting recently on the Elliot Rodger k*****gs,... (show quote)


Ok this sets me off a bit. it is not their race alone that is the cause of this uncivilized violence, if that is what you are saying, that is 100% r****t.
however if you are referring to the unfortunate fact that most people who are in ghetto areas and poverty happen to be black and Hispanic, different skin pigmentations other than lighter skin color (white) who happen to be in the middle in higher class in majority to the others due to the mislead mentality of the generations before mine and lack of knowledge of race, culture and mindset of people of different CLASSES who have different pigmentations because people thought that it made a difference, and still do think such illogical things. then you are completely right, and I would like to point out that neither side has a proper perspective on "race" and issues on poverty because they ALL have broken logic when dealing with this.
this is why I believe unbiased science and logic in politics is the only way this country can be fixed. however results from philosophers and scientists alike would be too easily manipulated by sponsors like we have today. lobbying is a cancer to factual information and progress (progress to solve issues) in politics and the world alike.
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Jun 5, 2014 14:14:45   #
I would sue for compensation of 100000 usd.
I wouldnt stop till i get that money even if I have to scream at em.
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Jun 4, 2014 14:09:19   #
nope, they will call r****t.
they buried it as much as they could.
people will forget until it hits em.
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Jun 4, 2014 12:55:49   #
I agree
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Jun 4, 2014 12:53:24   #
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Jun 4, 2014 11:54:07   #
Glaucon wrote:
It would probably be best if you read the article before you tried to refute the message. Just saying. Many extremists have attempted to destroy the service and none have been able to do so. If you have any proof of any bias by that service, produce it or STFU.


it was a blatant assumption, sorry if you took it seriously.
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