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Nov 26, 2019 18:46:38   #
woodguru wrote:
I am one of those who thinks and knows that good foreign policy comes from a state department and the intelligence community, as well as the pentagon, and a president that trusts all of the mentioned parts of the mechanism that he should be listening to and trusting, rather than having a "foreign policy" if you can call it that that is entirely against the national interests in all regards.

It remains to be seen why trump put so much of a priority on already completely debunked BS to withhold military aid from the Ukraine, but wh**ever his "reasons", the effect was to do Putin a huge favor in the Ukraine not having anti tank weapons in time for them attacking the eastern Ukraine.

What trump did in withholding aid outside of official channels that circumvented the wishes of congress was likely done illegally, and the staffers responsible for expediting funds knew it, and reports were sent through channels trying to stop it.

Yes a president is heavily responsible for foreign policies, but also for staying within official channels and adhering to the rules and law. We do not have a king, we have a president and there are rules and guidelines for him to stay within.
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Under the Constitution, the president is the federal official that is primarily responsible for the relations of the United States with foreign nations. ... The president may also negotiate executive agreements with foreign powers that are not subject to Senate confirmation. The president and the executive branch have the most significant role in making foreign policy and are responsible for carrying it out. With the advice and consent of the Senate, the president makes treaties and appoints ambassadors. Some of the tools used in foreign policy are, specifically, diplomacy, sanctions, containment, collective security, deterrence, and military force.
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Nov 26, 2019 17:01:00   #
permafrost wrote:
Thanks, I am wondering how many even read what I posted.. I thought it was pretty easy to understand but some do not get the point..

Oh well... soon be thanksgiving and the house will be full and I will not care for a few days...

Have a nice evening...


In your piece you said that before Trump there was no one in either party who wanted to make immigration more difficult. Does that include Obama, Schummer, Pelosi, Bill Clinton and George Bush??
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Nov 26, 2019 16:33:37   #
Pennylynn wrote:
True.... plus, no one other than CrowdStrike EVER examined the servers before they disappeared.


It is funny that Crowdstrike claims they gave the FBI a copy of the server but we have never heard anything from the FBI about it.
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Nov 26, 2019 16:30:53   #
Kevyn wrote:
The stated policy of Trumps own state department is to arm Ukraine to defend themselves against Russia. Trump set up a shadow group headed by Rudy and his Russian mob buddies to shake down Ukraine instead. If what he was doing is above board why not run it through the state department instead of his fixer and mobsters? Foreign policy is the president’s prerogative until it turns into extortion and bribery, Ben it is a crime.


You just don't like it because it's Trump and he's going to nail the corrupt arrangement between Burisma and the Biden's. LOL! you don't like him any way kevy, he's a white guy!
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Nov 26, 2019 16:04:19   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret. wrote:
Let's look at Trump from another angle. Did he do some things you didn't expect? Such as not behave like Mike Pence-P**********l? You bet your ass. Do a lot for the economy? Wh**ever you were told yes. Start bringing the races together? again yes. Why was he so different? We didn't want another politician who would just screw us again. remember? Now the great part. I got a letter from a black ops buddy, everyone should be interested in this.
Eagle-Eyed Nunes Finds Loophole Clause That Allows GOP To Call Witnesses

Rep. Devin Nunes of California and other Republicans may get to call their witnesses in the House impeachment inquiry after all, thanks to a clause cited in a letter signed by nine GOP representatives.

The Thursday letter appears to exploit a loophole in an attempt to bring forward witnesses denied by House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff.

The California Democrat previously denied many of Republicans’ witness requests, a power he was granted after a rule change earlier in the month.

According to Nunes’ letter, the newfound clause is “not displaced” by the rule change.

Among other witnesses, the congressman attempted to call the whistleblower and Schiff himself to testify in the impeachment inquiry into President Donald Trump.

“Therefore, pursuant to House Rule XI, Clause 2(j)(1), we, the undersigned Republican Members of the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, exercise our right to convene a hearing with witnesses selected by the Minority to testify in the Democrats’ ‘impeachment inquiry.'”


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Chairman Adam Schiff has repeatedly denied fundamental fairness and due process throughout the course of this sham impeachment.

RT if you agree that he should stop blocking important witnesses from testifying.

To wade through the mountain of text that is the House rulebook and find these small clauses absolutely takes an eagle eye.

According to an official copy of the Rules of the House of Representatives, it looks like Nunes is onto something here.

“Whenever a hearing is conducted by a committee on a measure or matter,” House Rule XI, Clause 2(j)(1) states, “the minority members of the committee shall be entitled, upon request to the chair by a majority of them before the completion of the hearing, to call witnesses selected by the minority to testify with respect to that measure or matter during at least one day of hearing thereon.”

If Nunes and his Republican colleagues are right in their gamble, this could mean they get to call their witnesses.

Considering all the damning evidence that seemingly undermines the whistleblower’s report, this could be a move that totally eviscerates the impeachment inquiry against Trump.

Imagine Adam Schiff, called as a witness in a public hearing before the entire nation, answering questions about his involvement with the whistleblower.

The whistleblower himself also could be called, which would shine a much-needed light on the origins of this partisan push to oust the president.

Although it’s unclear if Schiff and fellow Democrats will accept this clause at all, it signals Republicans are keeping up the pressure on an impeachment process that has much of the nation skeptical.

As of now, it’s looking like Democrats’ options to oust Trump are growing slimmer by the day.
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Schiff won't allow it. Watch.
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Nov 26, 2019 15:31:56   #
lpnmajor wrote:
He was a toddler when he came here. What I find remarkable, is that people who chose to become Americans, are more American than those who became Americans through the accident of birth.


So why is he so defensive of Ukraine; so pro Ukraine against Russia? Why did they offer him the job of Defense Minister?? Why does he think we absolutely have to help Ukraine?? Why was he so alarmed that he claimed that Trump demanded rather than asked a favor of the Ukraine president??

I will just tell you, Vindman is NOT respected by the military I know.
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Nov 26, 2019 15:28:56   #
woodguru wrote:
Russians are adversaries, except to Trump and alt patriots...
Russia was sanctioned over invading and taking other countries by force, which they are doing in the Ukraine as well. Russia is obviously the enemy of the Ukraine, and the US and NATO are their allies helping to defend against their enemy. This makes Russia an adversary if not enemy by proxy.

Trump is a t*****r by definition, guilty of treason helping Russia rather than the Ukraine, and there are other indicators of where trump interests do not align with national interests at all. He is attracted or identifies with the dictators of the world and seems to repulse and repel our democratic allies.
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Are you also one of those who thinks foreign policy isn't a prerogative of the president?? Ms Fiona and Mr Vindman both seem to think they dictate foreign policy and the president had better just shut up and go along. They are far from the t***h.

http://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/t-170508-1.html
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Nov 26, 2019 15:26:10   #
woodguru wrote:
The Mueller report listed multiple facts and witnesses corroborating Russian interference, this is an established fact...in fact the republican led senate report verified it as well.


True, the Russians did place some political ads but there were a great number aimed at hurting Trump as well as hurting Hillary. Big deal. If we are swayed by meme's and forum posers, then we are lost anyway.

What Mueller didn't look at is what is now being looked at. Mueller did a selective investigation and ignored some very telling evidence. We will have it out soon.

Best way to avoid outside interference in the e******n is to educate yourself. And as much as we interfere in other countries e******ns, we really have no room to talk about others trying to gain from ours.

Had there been any evidence of v**es changing as in being altered in the counts/ballat boxes, that would be a difference story but any of that is more likely from within, not from without.
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Nov 26, 2019 15:09:50   #
woodguru wrote:
Russians are adversaries, except to Trump and alt patriots...
Russia was sanctioned over invading and taking other countries by force, which they are doing in the Ukraine as well. Russia is obviously the enemy of the Ukraine, and the US and NATO are their allies helping to defend against their enemy. This makes Russia an adversary if not enemy by proxy.

Trump is a t*****r by definition, guilty of treason helping Russia rather than the Ukraine, and there are other indicators of where trump interests do not align with national interests at all. He is attracted or identifies with the dictators of the world and seems to repulse and repel our democratic allies.
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You over simplify Ukraine. There are a huge number of Russian nationals in Russia and to be honest, eastern Ukraine is essentially Russia now as is Crimea. The internal struggles have to do with very complex issues and saying Russia is an enemy of Ukraine, discounts nearly half the area. Undoing so many years of being a part of the Soviet Union doesn't happen over night and doesn't please everyone.

The rest of your post isn't worth the effort to discuss with you. Get an education.
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Nov 26, 2019 14:43:53   #
steve66613 wrote:
Yep....he’s a hero to the state department...of Ukraine! He was giddy about being asked (not just once) to be their DEFENSE MINISTER.
OMG! Let that sink in.....


That's why they offered him a job!
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Nov 26, 2019 14:37:53   #
Kevyn wrote:
The funny thing about this is that i*********n l*w written to pacify southern r****ts included family unification to prevent people of color from immigrating. In time this backfired on the r****ts.


You're the only r****t on this thread kevy. Certainly "people of color" can't and aren't r****t, just white people.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtJ4x1ycsPk

http://www.newsweek.com/rnc-uses-clinton-obama-schumers-words-push-border-security-releases-video-1284059

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlfOPvUABnw

http://www.c-span.org/video/?319377-4/senator-schumer-immigration-reform

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijLJSTGA3hs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swtDFqaXy6Y

Dern white people!!
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Nov 26, 2019 14:10:44   #
Divine t***h wrote:
That's a accurate description of Michelle Obama, and is an typical "black" American Christian female, mentality, and attitude.

The race card, and false claims of r****m is one of their weapons, and always have been, phantom r****m, so, so, true, and the destruction of males.

I welcome her into the p**********l e******n, so Trump can destroy her, intelligently, socially, morally, spiritually and politically.

I would love to see her debate the candidates, and demonstrate the danger of feminist, and black females moral, spiritual, and mental toxicity, with all due respect.
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It WOULD be interesting.
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Nov 26, 2019 13:27:34   #
Kevyn wrote:
The sad thing is the republicans are selling propaganda created by our adversaries the Russians. The resident asswipe on FOX news, Sean Hannity said he hoped Russia would prevail over our friends in Ukraine. How he is not fired for this is beyond me.


The propaganda of the dems says Trump "demanded" something from Ukraine. It says there was nothing corrupt about the Biden/Burisma connection. I must admit, that is, indeed, PROPAGANDA!!!!!!!!!!
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Nov 26, 2019 13:25:59   #
Kevyn wrote:
The sad thing is the republicans are selling propaganda created by our adversaries the Russians. The resident asswipe on FOX news, Sean Hannity said he hoped Russia would prevail over our friends in Ukraine. How he is not fired for this is beyond me.


Do us all a favor, kevy and stop referring to the Russians as adversaries. Ooops, you'll think I am demanding that you stop. I take it back!
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Nov 26, 2019 13:24:23   #
woodguru wrote:
Perfectly spelled out by one of the top five most moronic republican senators...John Kennedy of Louisiana
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/11/25/ukraine-e******n-meddling-theory-continues/4296544002/

After making a statement that has actually been debunked regarding Ukrainian e******n i**********e, here is how he decides between rhetoric and intelligence information, the interviewer stated that intelligence says it was Russia, not the Ukraine, and that actually it was a Russian fueled idea that it was Ukraine...

Kennedy says, "it could have been Ukraine, I don't know and neither do you"...

So, despite being fully briefed by intelligence and having the official record set straight for them, we see GOP politicians peddle their rhetoric to the public. The logic expressed by saying if they've heard two sets of information, one from intelligence and the other pulled out of debunked conspiracy theories, and they can't make the intelligent choice between the two, they need to keep it to themselves, not peddle it to millions of ignorant people.

The republican party is literally selling the propaganda that russia did not meddle, it was Ukraine that did. This is seriously dangerous territory when the party can't differentiate between the rhetoric and the facts. There is way too much light here between the facts and the things we know are not.

As trump has openly said to his loyal followers, pay attention to what I say, not what the media says
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Well, Ukraine is investigating it anyway. LOLOL! I am sure Manifort can corroborate some of it.

And, for the ten thousandth time, if some one claims to know where a hack originated by looking at the systems involved, then they don't actually know. Hackers can make hacks look like they came from your own back yard. LOL! Thus, we do NOT know Ukraine was not involved in hacking and we do NOT know Russia did the hacking. Last I heard, no source offered, there were 7 countries involved in hacking into our e******n, none of which involved changing v**es or altering numbers.

Your facts that the GOP facts are no good is just good evidence that YOUR facts are no good.
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