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Aug 2, 2014 21:15:04   #
AuntiE wrote:
I hear yea fax running. I still have ProgenyE's LambChop stuffed animal. I may use that instead of a bear. Do you think it would work?

I know you are smart; however, I am a busybody. Make sure your stops and walks are in well lighted areas! :!:

Poor Zeus...traveling all night and being denied his breakfast. :( obviously, he will receive a wonderfully special meal for enduring such starvation. :-D


Yes, I usually stop in well lighted areas, but a 150 pound corso mastiff does not invite aggressors .

During training he gets steak and roast chicken, don't think he will starve to death!
SWMBO
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Aug 2, 2014 21:07:10   #
Glaucon wrote:
I hope it makes sense, because that is what is actually happening.

I think you are either an unusually caring and sensitive man or, you are a woman. If I had to guess, I would guess you are a woman.



Well, I really hadn't wanted to get into it, but it might be easier to just tell the whole story. I am a man, 70 years old. I had a brother who was two years older than me, who was molested by a man (I never knew who) from the time he was 11 until he was 13. I didn't find out about it until I was in college and went home on one of my infrequent visits and dared ask my father why my brother Brian was no longer part of the family. My father, who was a h**eful man, with no love in his heart for anyone, told me that my 11 year old brother had had an "affair" with a man, and my father had not spoken to him after that any more than was necessary since we were all living in the same house. I left home right out of high school and returned home only when necessary, the tension level was way more than I could deal with. After I found out what had happened, I never saw my father again, my choice, until his funeral. My brother disappeared from my life until a few years ago, when out of the blue he contacted me needing money. He died in my arms a couple of months ago, from rectal cancer. While in college I met a wonderful woman who had a heart of gold and was willing to put up with a very nasty angry young man. She has been my salvation. Her education is in animal behavior and she trains therapy dogs now.We work with a psychologist when young teen age boys need adults they can talk to, safe pseudoparents, or now grandparents that they can cry their hearts out to, or just ask questions or learn how adults are supposed to treat kids. The corso mastiffs we have are therapy dogs and are very useful in getting the boys to trust some part of the world, and to not feel worthless. They can hug the dogs, cry on their shoulders (dogs weigh 150 pounds each)and often the boys have to talk to the dogs because what they have to say is best said to an animal who can accept them in ways that other people, particularly other people they are used to, cannot.

OK now, I guess I have explained more than I really wanted to to a stranger. Since I do not know you, nor do I ever expect to meet you, what you think will probably not change what I do or think. But you asked, so there you have it By the way if under the heading No Propaganda tPlease the signature comes up SWMBO that is my wife She Who Must Be Obeyed.
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Aug 2, 2014 20:35:07   #
AuntiE wrote:
You must take breaks, in well lighted areas, if you are driving most of the night.

I am delighted he is back to normal and tape may be put away.

As it is likely, with as little sleep as I have had, I may need the tan sleep sand. If I actually get to sleep, it is likely there will be great noise due to my last night's zero amount. I did manage about ninety minutes late morning today.

Do you know how irritating!!! it is to be married to someone who lays down, states they are going to sleep and are sound asleep in about three minutes? :hunf: :hunf: :hunf:

Your kindness in giving me your sleep sand is wondrous. :-D
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Some of each are being faxed as we speak, don't take all at one time. Just a little on the pillow should do the trick. Or if you have one handy, let a teddy bear hold the sleep sand and snuggle with the bear. None of our 40 bears want to be faxed to you however you will have to find your own bear.
Don't worry, with the dog I will be stopping often to walk him and keep us both awake. We have to be there by six for breakfast and then start the training seminar. Zeus doesn't get this breakfast until later.

SWMBO
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Aug 2, 2014 20:22:21   #
semper-fi wrote:
AuntiE, has anyone knowledge of Rhomin57?


Hasn't been signed in for a long while
Maybe Armie or AuntiE know something, unfortunately I don't

SWMBO
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Aug 2, 2014 20:06:29   #
AuntiE wrote:
Three things:

1. Just where are you off to now?

2. Are you taping NPP to the chair? :?: :-D

3. Are going to charge me for the sleep sand? :(


AuntiE
Zeus and I are going to a therapy dog workshop, NPP is staying home. He wants to go and is back to his old self (frightening isn't it?) but it is an outdoor seminar and it might be too hot. Tank will take care of him, tape not needed.

I have blue sleep sand and tan sleep sand with an anti snoring additive in it. Which do you want?No charge for either one.
I should be back late tomorrow night.
We are still working on the flower dog routine for the wedding, but Zeus keeps eating the flowers, maybe we will have to use plastic ones.

SWMBO
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Aug 2, 2014 19:52:52   #
AuntiE wrote:
You have not been bad; however, were just a bit braggartly about the number of hours of sleep you had. You received my sleep sand :cry: :-o



Since the pennies faxed all right do you want me to fax you some sleep sand? I have to drive all night tonight so need to stay awake anyhow, so you might as well use it.
SWMBO
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Aug 2, 2014 19:43:32   #
Glaucon wrote:
I am writing my third book. My comments on this site are my participation and my observations in the exchanges. I am attempting to understand some things about how people think, how they are able to change their minds and how they are unable to do so, open minded vs dogmatic.

I asked you your sex, because we have a couple of exchanges and I was interested in the work you do and who your are. You seem to see some ulterior motive in my request. You seem to dodge response to some other of my comments. I don't know of anything you have to fear, but I will leave that to you to decide.
I am writing my third book. My comments on this s... (show quote)


I suppose that might make some kind of sense but before I answer you, which do you think from my answers?
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Aug 2, 2014 18:58:38   #
Glaucon wrote:
I responded to your comments with what I intended to be respectful and it seems you weren’t willing to treat me with the same respect.
You mention moral relativism and I insist that morals are relative to context. K*****g people is morally bad in some contexts and not in others. You can k**l in self defense, if you believe you are defending yourself, in war, when found to be insane, in protection of one’s property, and many other situations that may be considered mitigating. However, I know of no moral relativity in child abuse. The evidence that homosexuality not a choice is compelling and overwhelming so we would have to disagree on that issue. I am guessing that you are doing everything you can not to recognize that it is not a choice and it is nothing to be ashamed of. Sexual abuse is a terrible and unacceptable behavior when the victim is adult, child, man or woman. In my mind, it is especially terrible when it is abuse of a child.
I am open to evidence or experience that would prove me wrong, but I am sure homosexuals are no more inclined to sexually abuse children than heterosexuals, Christians, agnostics, or liberals.
I took the time and effort to respond to all of your comments, the ones with which we agreed and the ones we didn’t. You did not show me that respect. You seem to have a chip on your shoulder. I think the question I asked as to whether I was responding to a man or woman was not a secret and refusing twice to indicate your “choice.” Seemed a bit weird.
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Does it matter whether I am male or female? And if so, why? Do answers from men differ from answers from women as to their value? Most of the people who post on OPP do not identify which sex they are, and I find it interesting to try to figure out from their answers which they are. When I find out, it often tells me that my assumption was wrong, and re-reading their posts once I know whether they are male or female I may reinterpret their answers. It is one way to evaluate my perceptions of people. I was just doing the same here, after all I really did not know which sex you were either. Also, I do not believe that which sex you are is a choice, but I know that many psychologists and psychiatrists do believe that but refer to it as g****r, which used to refer to non living objects such as cars or chairs, not to different sets of g*****lia. . By the way I never have said to you or anyone else that people chose to be heterosexual or homosexual, although I do know a few women who have told me that they decided it was easier to live with another woman than with a man and the sexual experience was equally good (or bad, as they never indicated which it was) So, as a learning experience, read some of my posts if you like and then decide which sex would more likely make those responses. Could be a learning experience for both of us.
Are you the person who has said that you are using this site as an experiment for a study you are doing from which you intend to write a book?
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Aug 2, 2014 17:37:59   #
Glaucon wrote:


and if you are a man or woman?



You want to know if I am a man or a woman the answer is yes one or the other
next question what do I do?

There are enough posts and threads on here if you really want to know. You might start with a Serious Question to Christian, The Damage of Child Abuse, go to Moral Relativism and Making Gay OK, Brian has three daddies and that's OK, Q***ring Jesus, and RockKnutne's thread Let's Talk about Christians. In case you missed it Old Roy had a thread on Common Core which included information on the GLSEN lunchbox which you might want to look at.

As for stoning anybody -there are enough stoned people, why add to it?
I personally have more respect for a homosexual couple who has been monogamous for many years than I have for a heterosexual couple who routinely c***t on the spouse. I have been married to the same person for 48 years, we were both virgins when we married and neither has had any other partners, does that answer your questions?

Incidentally, along with judge not lest you be judged, let he who is without sin cast the first stone, is Jesus saying "GO AND SIN NO MORE" and that is the most important part.
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Aug 2, 2014 16:57:54   #
arvadaian wrote:
This is recreation. When I want to be taken seriously I communicate with intelligent animals.



The only animals that are not above your intelligence level are naked mole rats, and I would guess you physically resemble them as well.
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Aug 2, 2014 13:38:25   #
todd wrote:
...about 500 years ago some seafaring European tribes discovered this land of "opportunity" and were beckoned uncontrollably to possess it...what has changed in 500 years? ...well for starters the big chief, head of this happy hunting ground, has caught wind of a number of outside tribes who have heard of the riches of this land and he has given an open invitation to these outside tribes to overwhelm the boundaries of the various nations that inhabit the land...though of different tribes they are marching to the same drum-beat...they covet this land's gold and silver and this territory and can't resist the present gullible Chief's open invitation to hunt permanently the riches of the land and move in and take advantage of the free bees and free milk and free honey of the land...so the message to the present inhabitants is; 'move the hell' over or you will get stampeded by the new tribe's horses and all their asses...some of these outside tribals have tattoos, and wear ear rings, and have beads...some are so tribal they form covenants and take vows and are referred to as 'gangs'...what an awful thing to think of some of these new 'friends' and neighbors...some local natives are now even being paid $7,000 wampums per month by this happy chief-in-commander to take in these new tribalites....oh happy world...why can't we all just live in peace? ...what the heck is 500 years anyway?
...about 500 years ago some seafaring European tri... (show quote)



That is one of the most concise explanations of what is going on that I have heard. Explaining it that way gives much more insight into what we have to face if we are to survive as a country and as a people. Thank you so much for this post.
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Aug 2, 2014 12:05:37   #
Neal wrote:
Your peculiar idea that liberals are "much more accepting of lies" sounds rather ridiculous considering the whoppers repeatedly spewed by conservative politicians and their ilk.

You appear unable to grasp that your ethical standards are based in your religious beliefs. The persistent attempts of the religious to force others to behave in accordance with their religious beliefs has been a major source of strife throughout history. It's time and past time humanity began accepting a rational basis for their behavior.
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All human actions past the totally biological ones are based on what the person believes in. What else would they be based on? If you aim for every turtle in the road when you are driving your car it is because you believe that is fun, and you also believe that the turtle has no value except for your entertainment. If you throw your garbage out the car window, it is because you believe that respect for other people's property is of no value, and it is more important that you should not have to waste your time finding a garbage can for your garbage. If you and your friends engage in the "knockout game" it is because you believe your pleasure is valuable and the other person's life or well being is not. So why wouldn't my belief in right and wrong, the sanctity of life, the respect for the dignity of man and the belief in God influence all my decisions? If you believe that there is no ultimate right and wrong only the demands and pleasures of the moment that obviously influences your behavior doesn't it?
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Aug 2, 2014 11:50:35   #
BigOlBear wrote:
25) Seniors love getting junk mail. It’s sometimes their only way of communicating or feeling like they’re part of the real world. -- Harry Reid

24)The number one job facing the middle class, and it happens to be, as Barack says, a three-letter word: jobs. J-O-B-S. -- Joe Biden

23) I took a poo in the woods hunched over like an animal. It was awesome. -- Drew Barrymore

22) Hillary Clinton and Barack Hussein Obama cannot win, and they are put in place to assure a victory by Mitt Romney… this is the plan of all the insurance companies that are owned by Mormon interests. It is unfolding as the Mormon Church planned over the last fifty years. -- Roseanne Barr

21) I do believe that it’s the first time in history that fire has ever melted steel. I do believe that it defies physics that World Trade Center tower 7 — building 7, which collapsed in on itself — it is impossible for a building to fall the way it fell without explosives being involved. World Trade Center 7. World Trade [Center] 1 and 2 got hit by planes — 7, miraculously, the first time in history, steel was melted by fire. It is physically impossible. -- Rosie O’Donnell talks T***herism

20) Isn't it a little r****t to call it Black Friday? -- Joy Behar

19) A good place to start a more civil dialog would be for my Republican colleagues in the House to change the name of the bill they have introduced to repeal health care reform. The bill, titled the “Repeal the Job K*****g Health Care Law Act,” was set to come up for a v**e this week, but in the wake of Gabby’s shooting, it has been postponed at least until next week. Don’t get me wrong — I’m not suggesting that the name of that one piece of legislation somehow led to the horror of this weekend — but is it really necessary to put the word “k*****g” in the title of a major piece of legislation? -- Chellie Pingree, Congresswoman (D-ME)

18) The Republican Party is saying that the President of the United States has bosses, that the union bosses this President around, the unions boss him around. Does that sound to you like they are trying to consciously or subconsciously deliver the r****t message that, of course, of course a black man can’t be the real boss? -- Lawrence O’Donnell

17) Herman Cain is probably well-liked by some of the Republicans because it hides the r****t elements of the Republican Party, conservative movement and tea party movement. People like Karl Rove like to keep the r****m very covert and so Herman Cain provides this great opportunity so he can say, ‘Look: This is not a r****t anti-immigrant, anti-female, anti-gay movement. Look: We have a black man.’ And look he’s polling well and he won a straw poll. -- Janeane Garofalo

16) If we want to keep our reproductive rights, we must be willing to tell our stories, to be willing and able to say, “I love my life, but I wish my mother had aborted me.” -- Lynn Beisner, the Guardian

15) Is there such a thing as a man-made stroke? In other words, did someone do this to (Democratic Senator Tim Johnson)? …I know what this [Republican] party is capable of. -- Joy Behar on The View

14) Civil rights laws were not passed to protect the rights of white men and do not apply to them. -- Mary Frances Berry, former Chairwoman, US Commission on Civil Rights

13) Now, people when I say that look at me and say, ‘What are you talking about, Joe? You’re telling me we have to go spend money to keep from going bankrupt?’ The answer is yes, that’s what I’m telling you. -- Joe Biden

12) Those flowers were picked by i*****l i*******ts. And they’re not v****g for you, b*tch. -- Joy Behar after receiving flowers from Sharon Angle

11) During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet. -- Al Gore

10) Every month that we do not have an economic recovery package 500 million Americans lose their jobs. -- Nancy Pelosi

9) Watching both the health care and climate/energy debates in Congress, it is hard not to draw the following conclusion: There is only one thing worse than one-party autocracy, and that is one-party democracy, which is what we have in America today. One-party autocracy certainly has its drawbacks. But when it is led by a reasonably enlightened group of people, as China is today, it can also have great advantages. -- Thomas Friedman

8) I root for hurricanes. When, courtesy of the Weather Channel, I see one forming in the ocean off the coast of Africa, I find myself longing for it to become big and strong–Mother Nature’s fist of fury, Gaia’s stern rebuke. Considering the havoc mankind has wreaked upon nature with deforesting, stripmining, and the destruction of animal habitat, it only seems fair that nature get some of its own back and teach us that there are forces greater than our own. — James Wolcott, Vanity Fair

7) Over the last 15 months, we’ve traveled to every corner of the United States. I’ve now been in 57 states? I think one left to go. -- Barack Obama

6) The government lied about inventing the HIV v***s as a means of genocide against people of color. The government lied. -- Jeremiah Wright

5) How do we know when someone like Hasan is going to make his move and do we know he’s an Islamist until he’s made his move? He makes a phone call or wh**ever, according to Reuters right now. Apparently he tried to contact al-Qaida. Is that the point at which you say, “This guy is dangerous?” That’s not a crime to call up al-Qaida, is it? Is it? I mean, where do you stop the guy? -- Chris Matthews

4) The medical term for Down Syndrome is Trisomy-21 or Trisomy-g. It is often shortened in medical slang to Tri-g. Is it not perfectly possible that the very name given to this poor child, being reared by Bristol, is another form of mockery of his condition, along with the “r****ded baby” tag? And does the way in which this poor child was hauled around the country on a book tour, being d**gged out in front of flash photographs in the middle of the night, barely clothed, suggest someone who actually cares for children with special needs, or rather sees them as a way to keep the spotlight on her? -- Andrew Sullivan

3) I propose a limitation be put on how many sqares [sic] of toilet paper can be used in any one sitting. Now, I don’t want to rob any law-abiding American of his or her God-given rights, but I think we are an industrious enough people that we can make it work with only one square per restroom visit, except, of course, on those pesky occasions where 2 to 3 could be required. -- Sheryl Crow at the Huffington Post

2) Had a powerful meditation just now — caused an earthquake in Southern California. …Was meditating on Shiva mantra & earth began to shake. Sorry about that. -- Deepak Chopra thinks his meditation can cause earthquakes

1) My fear is that the whole island (of Guam) will become so overly populated that it will tip over and capsize. -- Democrat Congressman Hank Johnson
25) Seniors love getting junk mail. It’s sometimes... (show quote)



While you are reading these, think about the fact that these are the same people who claim to understand the "science of g****l w*****g" well enough to say it is true so we need not ever debate it again.
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Aug 2, 2014 11:36:39   #
Rainrider wrote:
The bum couldn't read or write. Their own unholy book even tells us this. This web link fills you in on both sides of the argument.
http://radicalt***h.net/index.php/learn/muhammad/32-was-muhammad-illiterate
The thing about Mohammed is that he really did start out trying to be peaceful, how ever after being turned away by almost every one, he became full of h**e. His so called vision's simply reflected his hatred. Later when he though every one need to follow him, he turned to the convert or be k**led.
It is funny when you think about it though. For that unholy book to so true, an Imam can simply make a decree, and all is well in the world for what you want to do. An example of this would be the Thursday night men's club. What that was is messed up. anyway, some Muslim men wanted to have their night when they could dress in d**g, and well do what homos do. So the Imam said, on Thursday night Alliupchuck is busy and can't see what your doing. So it them became ok to this on that night only.
Even though they say they don't practice homosexuality, they look for ways to do it anyway.
As for a religion of peace, that is nothing more than a lie. in fact it really is not a religion at all. It is an ideology, that was t***sformed into a government.
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You are wrong, the Muslims don't "practice" homosexual acts, they are now experts, not just practicing. From what I understand the reason for the g*****l m********n of girls is to keep them from wanting to have intercourse. That way, they must be forced and it becomes easier to be sure that the children are sired by the "husband" but most men prefer young boys for their entertainment and the damage to the boys becomes a normalized part of their lives, making them willing to die for their "religion"
Do you think that was part of Obama's childhood in Indonesia and would also explain why the GLBTQ activists are so happy to have him as one of their own?
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Aug 2, 2014 10:04:22   #
AuntiE wrote:
By the way, has SWMBO mailed my $29.92 of pennies yet, plus 6% tax?


She faxed them to you this morning!
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