What we have today in this country is "racial snobbery". I'll tell you why, but before I do, let me give you a little background about myself, to explain what qualifies me as someone who is "an expert" in identifying racial snobbery and the outcomes because of racial snobbery. I’m white, but not an angry white guy. I am, however, a white guy who has issues that are always percolating and this article rubbed a hot button. I’m not trying to replace r****m with snobbery because r****m in any form is d********g and unacceptable. And, all of us must accept that there are people who are r****ts and deserve that label. But I am giving the rest of us the benefit of the doubt with the belief and understanding that none of us – Minority, Women or White – is intrinsically a r****t, homophobe, n**i, w***e s*********t, or misogynist.

Essentially, in my view our society is broken down as follows: Black, Hispanic and other people of color fall into the category of Minority-America. White men are White-America. Then, last but not least, Women. For reference, when reading this, Women can be inserted in place of Minority-America as Women usually perceive or have the same problems with White-America as does Minority-America. For that matter, homophobe, n**i, misogynist, or any other category are the usual labels White-America gets from Minority-America and Women. (I guess Minority-America does not ever have a misogynists or a n**i). In some cases, those views may be an accurate description, however, I’ve NEVER sat down to purposely lay myself out to be a n**i, w***e s*********t, or misogynist, so I resent whenever I hear Minority-American or Women throw out any of those labels in a description of any White-American.

I grew up with my younger sister in East Haven, Ct. My Italian/Polish-American parents were married at a time when marrying someone outside of their ethnic group was deemed highly disrespectful to their family circle and often times frowned upon or scorned by their peers. Mom and Dad and their combine ten brothers and sisters are products of the Great Depression, WWII and the Korean War. My grandparents immigrated to this country in the late 1890’s. My Mother at 99 years young has just one remaining sister from that family. I’ll be 72 October 1. I’m a home owner in Oakland Park, Fl. I graduated in 1996 from the University of San Francisco with a B.S. Degree in Information Systems Management. I joined the Navy at 18 to avoid the Vietnam era draft, retiring as a Senior Chief Petty Officer serving from 1965 to 1986. I have been married for 35 years. We are empty nesters, but I have two estranged kids aged 43 and 49 from my first marriage living in other states. However, I am lucky enough to have a wonderful step-daughter who I’ve known for 38 years. She lives six blocks from us. She is an office manager for small maritime/marina business. There are three grandchildren all under 18 years old. I’m a life time learner, I have been lucky enough to travel the world extensively while in the Navy and also with my spouse. I’m a well read, opinionated, registered Republican. I have v**ed in every national and local e******n since I was first eligible in 1967.

This will cause controversy, but Black, Hispanic, others of color, Women and White leaders all purposely perpetuate problems between races and ethnic groups. These leaders usually take the position that “it is the other guy” who has to change without looking at themselves to be the change agent. For instance, when will Minority-America and Women and their leaders do something other than COMPLAIN about White-America? It is a false narrative when Minority-America and Women believe that ONLY White-America needs to change their attitude towards others and all will be right in the world without taking the giant leap – take an honest look at themselves in the mirror and at least acknowledge the possibility that they may have to change as well. To Minority-America and Women because they label White-America as they please – it MUST be the unquestioned, absolute true.

I call this racial snobbery because there is no alternative behavior change discussed by minorities and women, just accusations always slamming home that "White-America only" are the bad guys and need to change. Minority-America needs to study the issues that create a gap in understanding and formulate a comprehensive immigration reform plan for both Minority-America and White-America. Illegal border crossing is one area Hispanic-Americans could step up to the plate. There is no doubt that there needs to have a viable plan for dealing with i*****l a***ns because it is the right and humane thing to do – we are the United States of America and we should be able to provide humane procedures for dealing with i*****l a***ns – but always remember that these people are first and foremost LAW BREAKERS. It would be equally right and humane thing to do, for Minority-Americans, mainly Hispanics, to extol loudly that when entering America, entering it legally is the preferred AND ONLY appropriate way. I have NEVER heard a Hispanic leader voice this viewpoint; all they do is ride the fence in silence – which is tacit approval and endorsement of illegal border crossing.

Minority-America usually fails to offer up something to compel as a comprehensive change for Minority-America. On the other hand, White-America deludes itself into believing that by “telling them what they want to hear” alone will win over the Minority-America overnight. Yet again Minority-America fails to even offer up a quid-quo-pro let alone something solid that they can do to reach out with a mindset that would be beneficial to finding solutions or stating what would help White-America to better understand, and win over Minority-America. Pointing fingers is always easier than attempting a solution. Just play the “blame the other guy” mentality AND don’t provide White-America with empirical evidence of your claims.

So, speaking as a leader one who has over 50 years’ experience working with people from different walks of life, ethnic and racial groups - in the Navy for 20 years as well as when employed by three Fortune 50 Companies for over 30 years - If you want to have the respect of everyone/anyone, you need to be firm and fair. Firm in your beliefs; and fair when espousing them with the ability to endorse and provide possible solutions - finger pointing and playing the blame game has to end as it serves no purpose.

Another contributing factor to the problem of racial snobbery is the way some writers/pundits portray other groups of people. Some are always capitalized, such as Asian or Hispanic or African-American; while others are not, mainly w****s, caucasians, women. I was born here, so why am I not considered a White-American or White instead of white? Or my wife, my step-daughter, my mother or my sister referred to as Women instead of women? And by the way, African-American women double-down because they fall into two groups: Minority-Americans and Women.

Racial snobbery fails to recognize how White-America has closed or at least narrowed the gap between peoples who were once ens***ed or when immigrating to this country. Minority-Americans and Women were once stupidly and inhumanely called (to name a few) n****r, coon, egg-plant heads, harps, kikes, wops, polack; broads or babes, or q***r or ferry boy. All of these are ugly references.

My knowledge and remembrance of history reminds me that it was a two-way give and take over decades and that it was not an easy task for all concerned. Growing up and during my first few years in the Navy, it was common practice for me to called wop (which does not imply that others have to yield calmly to ethnic slurs just because I did). I learned to deal with it, but it ultimately became a quid-quo-pro situation. Today, I fondly recall those days and joke about them. My bet is that others have either experienced the same thing or know of someone who has. It is not that uncommon. I'm NOT advocating that an African-American should endure and accept being called a coon or n****r – at any time. And, the use of those two words is offensive, but without using them my argument would have no substance or backbone. I could substitute the word kike for a Jew, or beaner for Mexican.

Some may not see things as clearly as I believe I have. Racial snobs continue with an abrasive attitude toward White-America. Editors wouldn’t/don't pay a dime for milquetoast writing, so pundits know that negative controversy sells and promotes disharmony between groups. Minority-America leaders could be a shining light for both Minority-America and White-America. But instead, Minority-America pundits are dimmer switch’s in a world needing enlightenment and provocative leadership from a well-educated, well respected women and men – from all groups. Pundits fail miserably at this. They cause new leaders to become just like themselves in the Minority-American community to follow the same narrow-minded thinking rather than creating leaders who relish seeking guidance from someone who took a provocative stance against the norm. These are people who never look for or promote the positive. Furthermore, when a Minority-American attempts to bridge the gap between White-America, most times they are met with demeaning remarks by their own kind – being labeled as t*****rs. Again, there are these labels that Minority-America and Women throw around so easily. Isn’t it enough that White-America has mislabeled every ethnic group that has ever entered this country?

I have concluded that my grandchildren, their friends and their children will have to contend with the same type of racial snobbery for years to come unless there is a significant change. Not just from White-America, but from everyone. And, while there are pundits who get to publish their beliefs and wisdom in a well-respected newspaper or a blog, there will NEVER be change. Everyone will end up dealing with the same type of subtle stereotyping and snobbery that I have endured for my entire adult life (one that racial snobbery perpetuates) and will do so until I die. Subtle snobbery is worse than outright direct snobbery. I lost promotions to minorities and women – as I was told it was to level the playing field. Leveling the playing field has cost me, but racial snobs NEVER recognize that for me and other White-Americans who've had to endure the same fate. I not complaining because I am proud that I’ve helped contribute to a better society. However, WHEN WILL IT EVER STOP? When will one group (White-America) always have to be the one that – in my view – always be the one told that it is the singular fault for problems. Even if they are the singular fault, there is NEVER a corresponding, cogent, well thought out solution from Minority-America or Women.

I have worked hard all my life to get where I am today, with no special assistance from anyone. I assume that there are a lot of people from any group who also fall into this same hard-working category. Yet, I have constantly been told that it is me – the White guy - who has to do all the changing toward bridging racial and ethnic gaps. I am tired of all of it. I have made changes during my life, happily for the most part though I admit sometimes it took a lot of self-re-evaluation that was not easy to understand or enact. But I did it. So, Minority-America should not be so magnanimous with their criticism of White-America. There should be enough leaders to go around that young White-America as well as young Minority-America can look to as shining examples of how to do things the right and humane way. Yet, I see no change on the horizon, especially with the group of Minority-American leaders there are today (ignorant White leaders fall into the same category) who only blame and point fingers at one group of people -- and the group that Minority-America and Women always point at so ugly and inhumanely is White-America.

I am not sure how many others feel the way I do. I don’t have the means in which to conduct a study/survey necessary to prove my theory. I am not sure it would be worth my time to undertake given that Minority-American and White-American leaders have the means and should be the ones that provide that empirical information. There may be significantly more that are ready, on both sides, to do some unconventional, out of the box thinking to get to a comprehensive solution to current race problems and the means to head off new ones for immigration and racial tensions. One solution sometimes sires the doggedness to come together to labor through other problems.

Note: I used some really derogatory – frankly highly offensive - terms for describing people. But without using them, I would just be just a wishy-washy, white guy blowing out gas with no substance. I won’t apologize to anyone offended by those terms just for that reason – but I want to emphasis the day-to-day, off-hand use of those terms is ugly and should never be used or found acceptable.

Why should I believe anything you say? Where is your proof? I know your word is your bond, but I want you to show me the source of your information. In another way of saying it - SHOW ME THE MONEY!

This is a heartwarming article, something that hits very close to home. As a retired Senior Chief Petty Officer I often get these two questions posed to me by civilians. 1st, What is it that you miss most about the military? My answer is and always has been WITHOUT HESITATION - the people. Forget your rank; forget your time in service; when push comes to shove, if something happens to you, there is ALWAYS someone backing you up. Today, whenever I see anyone in uniform, I feel p***eful that I once served on active duty with them. While I am not on active duty with them today, my heart and mind are always with them. I'm going to add - My wife feels the same way. The 2nd question is, What is the difference between the military and civilians? My answer is always - From my own personal experience of 25 years working with civilians after 21 years in the military, I found civilians to be back stabbers. And, contrary to popular belief, the military is not filled with a bunch of robots. In the military, you are expected to be flexible; or as the Clint Eastwood character Gunny Highway said in the 1986 movie HEARTBREAK RIDGE, "improvise". In the civilian world, any attempt to improvise is met with - Managers would say - Just do what I tell you to do; your peers would be on the phone telling your manager of your t***sgression. So, the main difference is in the military you could always trust; with civilians I learned to never trust, which always caused descension and corruption. I finally started my own consulting business and my company motto was "Someone you can always trust". It was easy to live up to because I did it for so long.

[quote=Jakebrake]The recent furor over President Donald Trump’s muted response to the death of John McCain last weekend offers renewed insight into the mind of Trump, as well as evidence as to why, despite nearly universally negative coverage by the press, Trump remains as popular as ever with his base. Moreover, he’s gaining support among independents and even b****s.

Donald Trump was not elected to be p**********l. America elected the real-estate tycoon/reality-TV star not because they expected the niceties, decorum, and political correctness that are the stock-in-trade of the DC establishment. He was elected to be a political neutron bomb detonated in the heart of the Swamp.

Rhetorically and stylistically, Trump is the anti-Reagan. Whereas Ronald Reagan was gracious even to his harshest critics, using a folksy humor to counter their attacks, Trump is a street-brawler with a sledge hammer who leaves no attack unanswered.

This blue-collar-billionaire style infuriates the political and Hollywood elites, but endears him to the millions of Americans in “flyover country” who are routinely mocked and dismissed by elites — which is why no scandal, real or imagined, has been able to dent his core support.

With McCain’s passing, Trump did the bare minimum to recognize the event. That’s because McCain, the epitome of the Washington establishment, loathed Trump, and the feeling was mutual.

Trump received enormous criticism for his initial response to the senator’s passing. Instead of an official statement, he merely tweeted, “My deepest sympathies and respect go out to the family of Senator John McCain. Our hearts and prayers are with you!” Respectful, not effusive, but with the history of feuding between the two, everyone read between the lines. Trump reportedly told advisers he did not want to lavish praise on McCain because everyone would recognize it was not genuine.

After all, it was McCain who infamously and spitefully to Trump cast the deciding (and promise-breaking) v**e against the Republican effort to repeal ObamaCare — an effort McCain himself campaigned on. It was also McCain who said of a 2016 Trump rally in Phoenix that Trump had “fired up the crazies.” It was in response to that jab that Trump commented about liking people who “weren’t captured.”

The fires were stoked when the White House returned its f**g to full staff after only a day and a half at half-mast (as per official protocol). Enormous pressure to re-lower the f**g came from Republicans, veterans groups, and even Democrats like Rep. John Lewis (who now says McCain was a “warrior for peace,” a stark reversal of his 2008 comments about then-Republican p**********l nominee McCain, who Lewis claimed was fostering an “atmosphere of h**e” and “hostility” like the one that led to a 1963 black church bombing by w***e s*********ts). Soon, Trump issued a proclamation re-lowering the f**g to half-staff, stating, “Despite our differences on policy and politics, I respect Senator John McCain’s service to our country and, in his honor, have signed a proclamation to fly the f**g of the United States at half-staff until the day of his interment.”

This is the essence of Trump: He heaps superlatives on his friends (or those he is trying to win over), while firing rhetorically brutal and often just plain nasty rebukes to his opponents.

This shunning of cultural norms and p**********l courtesies has made him an easy target for his critics. Trump often creates public relations problems for himself with his relentless attacks when a kind word or an ignored slight would win points.

But Trump revels in the role of outcast and pariah. His supporters see every attack on him by the elites as evidence that he is their champion. And if they have to choose between a nice guy who gets steamrolled by the Left and a bare-knuckles brawler who conquers the deep state, well, that’s not even a close call.

After all, the media and Democrats have, since the nomination of Trump, lamented the “good old days” when Republicans nominated nice, respectable men like Bob Dole, John McCain, and Mitt Romney (who couldn’t be more bland and inoffensive if he was a vanilla bean). Yet when these men ran for president, Democrats still accused them of being r****t, sexist, xenophobic, h********c, rich (and for the rich) white guys.

At 72 years old, it is highly unlikely Trump will change. His relentless, bombastic, hard-charging personality made him one of the world’s richest and most famous men. It helped him dispatch 16 highly qualified candidates in the 2016 Republican p**********l field. And it helped him achieve one of the most shocking upsets in American political history when he destroyed the Clinton political machine and won an e******n that, even on E******n Day, many pundits and pollsters gave him less than a 10% chance of winning.

In the end, despite his abrasive style and often uncouth rhetoric, Trump has had a remarkable record of success in his first year and a half as president. So we can be appalled at his demeanor or we can accept him for what he is — a street fighter doing wh**ever it takes to restore American greatness.[/quot

What I mainly come away with about President Trump is that he is not about to act the way the swamp and the mainstream media wants him to act. The swamp and MSM have dictated through their sense of "Gestapo style" entitlement the way a sitting President should comport himself as far back as I can remember - back to the Kennedy days of the early 60's- and none of the Presidents resisted, usually faling in line with only the occasional whimper of pushback in return. The swamp and MSM are just not ready and never will be ready to understand a president who not only pushes back, but kicks their ass and then rubs their nose in it - in spades with no monkeying around.

Hey Slat .. This is a a great article. I'm also retired military and had similar thinking regarding Trump never thinking I'd support him, but now a firm believer of his policies. Where did you find this? Do you have a link. I would like to share it with my email list of both Trump and anti's who are mainly retired military.

I'm a retired U.S. Navy Senior Chief Petty Officer (SCPO) and I DON'T like (bitterly) - and I presume every other active duty and retired Chief Petty Officer in the U.S. Navy and U.S. Coast Guard - DOES NOT LIKE to be identified as an E-7, E-8, or E-9 when addressing us directly or indirectly. Use the proper identifier - damn it. Chief (CPO), Senior Chief (SCPO) and Master Chief (MCPO). Additionally, I am confident that every other member of the military - officer and enlisted - would rather be identified or referred to by their EARNED RANK - not pay grade. For a complete list of Military Ranks and Insignia's - with the proper identifiers by paygrade - go to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:United_States_uniformed_services_comparative_ranks. Additionally, I think I can speak for all military members: If I'm a General I wouldn't want to be referred to as an Admiral; or introduced as "O-8 John Paul Jones". I never heard a Marine Corp SGT Major referred to by anyone - officer or enlisted - as E-9. OOPs! Neither of those examples work. Civilians can be excused to a point; but even a civilian should know that - for the most part - Admirals belong at sea for the Navy and Coast Guard; Generals are ground pounders in the Marines, and Army; and Generals in the Air Forces are Air Jockey's. Yes, Admirals and Generals are also referred to as F**g Officer, however, in general when referencing or identifying them it is usually by their rank even when they command joint forces. Note: After retirement from the Navy, during my next 25 years working as a civilian I always found it amazing that civilians demanded they be called by their correct titles and became highly indignant when not addressed or referred to properly - AND others were not given the preference to use any identifier they preferred. Yet, still in this day and age, it is okay for civilians to refer to and insult military personnel in a hodgepodge manner as done by Peewee when addressing us. As I said, we can be forgiving for the most part, but I get insulted when a new article or blog refer to military people incorrectly - especially in view of the fact that you can find what is correct or incorrect with a simple google.com search.

I'm a Conservative who has used this site for YEARS. Great info here. However, it has been my experience, that when faced with facts - even when facts backchecked using this site - our liberal brothers and sisters do one of two things: 1) call me a lier; 2) look at me with a "deer in the headlights" look. Just saying'.

I browsed through the "Active Topics" and was not able to find this topic. Was it pulled?

Admiral ... As you requested, on behalf of the American people I revoke your clearance immediately. You obviously don't want it, so our country won't burden you with it any longer. I behalf of the American people, thank you for your service, especially the way you and your team took down Osama bin Laden. Please let me emphasis, revocation of your clearance does not stop you from voicing your opinion about anything under the rights all Americans have under the 1st Amendment.
Signed ... SCPO, USN, Retired

You don't understand the Presidents job description thoroughly. A President can revoke any clearance, for any reason, for anyone he deems to not have “the need to know”. That's any Presidents’ responsibility for active working civilians and military - AS WELL AS RETIRED civilian and military personnel. Having a clearance is not a right (it has nothing to do with the 1st amendment) - it is a privilege to have one and is based upon a need to know basis.

President Trump obviously feels Brennan does not have the need to know, plus he must also believe Brennan is not going to be someone he goes to for advise. Besides, no freedoms have been taken away from Brennan - he can still go on cable news and speak his views in accordance with the freedom granted by the 1st amendment.

There are two major flaps here. The first is a creation of hysteria by Mainstream Media (MSM), while the second is about the individual losing the clearance. By losing his clearance, Brennan (or anyone else) will not be able to work for corporations that are awarded government contracts that require a security clearance. A clearance is a valuable asset/commodity to have that the government spends a lot of money to award based on passing a background check. The higher the clearance, the deeper the investigation; and the rarer the clearance so people holding these clearances are in high demand.

Then, the woe is me bully MSM has had their feelings hurt and they don’t like it. There is finally someone sitting in the Whitehouse that doesn't march in lockstep with what the media deems how a sitting President should act. (Horror of horrors! Tears, whimper! Trump is removing Brennan's clearance. Something HAS to be wrong with that!) So, the two factions disagree, and MSM bash’s Trump for doing it.

The MSM as far back as Reagan have bashed (often times bullied) Presidents "at will" without any major consistent push back by the sitting president until the arrival of Trump in the Whitehouse. Oh sure, every now and again a sitting president would complain about coverage by MSM, but every time that happened, MSM doubles down without fear of retribution. The MSM treated Carter, both Bushes, Clinton and Obama as if each were their own personal punching bag. But when they pushed back, the MSM went into a frenzy - like bees in a beehive. Everyone knows how a bully reacts when he/she gets pushback - It's a look of amazement and astonishment. It's - hey you aren't supposed to push back at me. I AM THE BULLY! When I bully, everybody gets out of the way! ETC, ETC, ETC, ETC!

Today, there is a sitting president who pushes back! And, today's MSM is like a playground bully - there are always others standing around watching as the bully swaggers around the playground in a threatening way and can continue to so until someone pushes back. The bully either doubles down or backs down; while those being bullied back down or double down in response.

President Trump happens to be one of those individuals who doubles down - and like all big bullies who have a sense of entitlement, MSM is taken aback in dismay and yell – “Hey, you can't do that. Don't you know I'm the bully - I make the rules - and I can say and do anything I want without fear of retribution.” And furthermore, I expect people in the administration to act the way I expect them to act – AND (as MSM acts today) don't have to get everything/anything right. Just say it and it will stick to the wall because I will it so. I AM THE BULLY! I MAKE THE RULES! Only, Donald Trump has been a thorn in their side since November 8, 2016 – AND THEY CAN’T STAND IT.

I believe in free press/MSM. Let's face it! If the press/MSM don't report the wrong doings and coverups by public officials and their operatives the America public would never know about them. But I've always been amazed at how the media has pushed the notion that they are the voice of the American public, but have always been the chooser of what is important for the American public to know. And, now they've added to that "how" you and I should respond to what they report - i.e., if you don't fall all over yourself and believe them, you are equated to being dumb or deplorable; or incompetent. It's okay to have editorials - they express opinions - but when MSM "reports the news for the American public" it reports their opinions AS FACT.

To MSM, Trump is not fit to be President - and the expectations is that I should believe it - JUST BECAUSE THEY SAY SO. Keeping with my point, - MSM believes it's more important to report what they think the American public should know (i.e. he's not fit) - NOT WHAT HE DID and LET ME (the America public) decide his fitness to serve in the office.

Well said. I hope we can communicate again in the future on other issues as well. Speaking of respect - I was talking with my acupuncturist today, a native of China from Beijing (she has been here for over 30 years) and we both agreed that the biggest thing missing in the world today is respect for one another. The world would be a much better place if we all learned that disagreeing with someone doesn't mean that disrespectful attitude and behavior towards them must also follow. We should learn from other's we disagree with.

Thank you for such a nice reply. I was nice of you to take the time to consider my viewpoint. I am mainly conservative, however, I am willing to listen to and consider the notions and viewpoints of others in a respectful manner (although I do so sometimes sarcastically). In the long run, I am not going to convince you or people like Mike (who considers me a jerk) to spell God differently - nor am I going to call you a jerk for not doing so; nor do I really care why you do, so there's no need for an explanation. I think it is reasonable for someone - like myself - who believes in God to point out when I consider it wrong or offensive; just like you would consider it wrong or offensive if I substituted the word "broad" or "split tail" or "w*MEN" or EBLF (estrogen based life form) for women every time I referred to you or to women in general; or spelled your name P*nny or my name P*aul; or every time substituted "Dolt" for Mike when referring to him. For example, I didn't like being referred to as a jerk by Dolt. (BTW Dolt, I suggest that if anyone wants to insult me, do it to me, not through someone else). I hope we have some good dialogue in the future Penny and if he calms himself down even Mike.

you can find the definitions for the words and abbreviations I used at https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Jerk

Penny, I'm surprised you even responded to that jerk. Please don't bother explaining to him why you spell G*d that way. Let him try to figure it out for himself. Have a Blessed day. Mike

Thank you for such a nice reply.

Come on man - what's the problem. God is spelled GOD - NOT G*d. Either believe in God or not. However, if not, don't insult the rest of us who do with this PC spelling. Seems Y*u need an angel to rescue Y*u from the "angles" of the PC world. And BTW, God does not send angles, God sends angels.

The one thing this article that you linked FAILED to point out - it would take the Russians meddling in ALL 50 states; I SAY AGAIN - all 50 states to have any outcome on the e******n. The author of the linked article should get a Nobel "Piece" Prize for writing an article that really sounds convincing until you understand that it would take successful meddling in ALL 50 STATES. Come on man, the Russians can't even maintain a productive economy - I believe that California and Israel have larger economy's - let alone manage to meddle in ALL 50 STATES - actually 48 because California and New York were not going to v**e for Trump anyway. And, they really failed miserably in Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania - states that were supposed to be lock down states for Hillary (What happened in these states??). In short, a nice article that is well written with lots of links that take you to some data that is suspect - but overall, come on man, the Russians meddling in the remaining states that gave Trump the majority is not even logical, especially given the fact that when Mueller indicted the last 12 Russians, it was said that the methods used were crude and rudimentary. Face it - T***p w*n because he won the E*******l College (which has been the basis for electing a U.S. President since George Washington). Why don't the losers of the e******n, i.e., The Democrat Party, focus on how to win back the v**ers instead of trying to negate the past P**********l E******n. Democrats should focus on how they think they can make things better; focus on ideas; focus on convincing me that the Democrat Party candidate is a better choice in the upcoming mid-term e******n and the 2020 P**********l E******n. On a scale of 1-4, with 1 being horrible and 4 being outstanding, the Democrat Party has done a #1 job - a horrible job - convincing me they have the better ideas for governing. A side note - I believe (and always have since first eleigible to v**e in 1968) any v**e for a Democrat for any office (village, town, city, state, nationwide) is a v**e for Socialism.