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Nov 30, 2013 10:23:27   #
Explorer wrote:
I disagree with you regarding your comment no one is born to be bad. I believe we all must be educated to be good. Children from the moment they walk begin experiencing impulses to be troublesome followed by impulses to do mean and dispirited things in their alleged innocence. Such activities for instance show ALL CHILDREN throwing toys into the faces of playmates, or slapping and hitting techniques. These activities include preschoolers and Kinder Cares doing the same things. The results from teachers studies show that when children from all walks of life arrive at school for the initial appearance classmates have been known to teasing and name calling causing some students to disassociate from any desire to return to school the following day. Children do not learn this from their parents. Teacher pre-studies disclose that it becomes the teacher/student educational experience to instruct against mean behavior and patterns of differing behavior that accompany it, once spotted in a student. I have read some studies but not enough of them to be an expert, such as a psychologist or sociologist. Listening. The subject bears discussion.
I disagree with you regarding your comment no one ... (show quote)


Your point is well taken. But, children need to be guided and taught. Once a child learns there are consequences for bad behavior and rewards for acceptable behavior, normal children will opt for the rewards. Even if the reward is no more than a smile. But, it has to start in the home. If the parent(s) do not take an interest in their child; and many people choose to have children rather than a single child, then you have problems. I guess what I am saying is I believe that everyone has good in them, both children and adults, the good has to be nurtured.

Again, you have given me something to think about as well as find some good studies/books to read on the subject.
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Nov 30, 2013 01:17:37   #
Sorry, duplicate entry
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Nov 30, 2013 01:17:37   #
Richard94611 wrote:
Thought you folks might be interested in the loss or gain of jobs under W and then under Obama. For those of you who want to push the blame for the recession onto Obama, this will be hard to swallow, though true. This is back a few years, but certainly reflects the t***sition.

found at the Bureau of Labor Statistics -

Private-sector Job situation last 12 months under B/USH (2008-2009):

February___________-136,000 (lost)
March_____________ -112,000 (lost)
April______________-215,000 (lost)
May______________ -216,000 (lost)
June______________-231,000 (lost)
July_______________­259,000 (lost)
August____________ -294,000 (lost)
September_________ -425,000 (lost)
October____________­-480,000 (lost)
November__________ -797,000 (lost)
December__________-658,000 (lost)
January____________-839,000 (lost)
.

Private-sector Job situation over past 12 months under OBAMA:

July_____________+175,000 (gained)
August__________ +52,000 (gained)
September______+216,000 (gained)
October________ +139,000 (gained)
November_______+178,000 (gained)
December_______+234,000 (gained)
January_________+277,000 (gained)
February________+254,000 (gained)
March__________+147,000 (gained)
April____________ +85,000 (gained)
May______________+105,000 (gained)
June______________+84,000 (gained)
Thought you folks might be interested in the loss ... (show quote)


Impressive. Now do you know how many of these jobs went to American citizens? Bet you have not read this: http://cis.org/who-got-jobs-during-obama-presidency
Okay, I know you may not want to go to the article, so let me tell you 52 percent of the jobs are now held by foreign born. And did you bother about the statistics regarding the cost of living increasing while net pay has gone down? Hummm, how about the fact that the majority of the new jobs are only part time: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/21/part-time-job-creation_n_3788365.html
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Nov 29, 2013 22:07:32   #
LOLOBAMA wrote:
http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/a8/a8232f546b58c8867d0b7440e7c6139da343c31abdab69aac90c381e0f1a4232.jpg


WOW!! The original poster was just full of information...almost too much for one posting.
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Nov 29, 2013 21:53:23   #
onegooddance wrote:
Just so you all know, I love the bantering that goes on I finaly had to join. I'm very concerned about what is going on, what a mess for our kids. I'm a hop and skip away from 77. Seen a lot and done a lot
Its what they don't know about survival that scares me the most, Our kids I mean. Had a fine day yeaterday and today was een better. See ya down the screen!!!!


Welcome aboard. Hope to see your comments and topics.
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Nov 29, 2013 21:51:00   #
Richard94611 wrote:
It is worthy of my intellect because one of the themes I have been hammering away at is that conservatives/Republicans of the cuckoo-extremist type continue to believe the most absurd things about the president and practically turn themselves inside-out with silly charges and claims. This is one more example of this sort of thing. And thank you for offering me the opportunity to continue hammering home this point.


Now see, this is one reason that Conservatives get upset with people like yourself. I was on your side that this is not worthy of time..... thank you for pointing me back to my "side of the issues." Talk about winning the other side over, well it will never happen with insults!
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Nov 29, 2013 21:48:24   #
lone_ghost wrote:
Thank you ginny, I have run internet based businesses but this is the real thing.


I would understand if you feel concerned, but I have faith in you and I am a complete stranger..... you know you can do this. If you ever need a sounding board, drop me a note. I may not be able to help, but I can listen and I have found that it is good to have someone that is not close to me to listen to my ideas. So, I hope you take me up on the offer. Again, keep the faith! You can do anything you really want and you will be successful!
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Nov 29, 2013 21:10:19   #
Richard94611 wrote:
One of the screamingly funny anti-Obama theories that just seemed to have started up is that Obama fathered an illegitimate child on a visit to a dentist's office.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/11/29/birther-preacher-claims-obama-had-mother-of-his-love-child-k**led-outside-white-house/


If there is nothing to it, then Obama should take the test and clear up the mess. While he is at it, why not test the girls too.

To be honest, I do not like Obama's politics or how he is managing the Office of President. But, when people just start rumors to smear him well that is just wrong. There are plenty of missteps, poor judgment, and lies to focus on without making up garbage. Even if he did step on Ms. "Guns"; it is their business and that of the child's mother. Really, some people. And, why oh why do you think this is worthy of your intellect? You must, you found it and posted it for comment.
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Nov 29, 2013 21:01:24   #
lone_ghost wrote:
I have been absent. I have been putting in 14, 16, 18 hour days getting my new business going. My former employer has dropped any further action against me. and I have dropped my counter suit against them as promised. Moving on.
I took $275,000 in combined loans with my house, my land, my animals, my vehicles, even a lot of equity in my other businesses, most of everything I have to start my this business. Failure is not an option.
On the good though, all monies are now available so I am not struggling any more to make payroll and such. I have a nice office space, I am now at 13 employees, gaining an average of at least one new client per week. I am in the black for the first time since jumping in.
The bad though, my oldest existing LLC expires in May of next year and I am not eligible to license another one until then unless I pay a $25,000 fee to pay for the federal licensing commissions cost of canceling and establishing a new LLC under my name. (you are limited as to how many LLC licenses you can hold, I have to expire one, or pay the penalty in order to apply for another, this is not the governments fault, I have multiple businesses so that is just how it is).
This is going to be my legacy, what I leave to my children. I am going to shut down every thing else, and really go legit, or I am going to lose everything. Cross your fingers for me please.

For those who may think I am a fool, and putting my family at risk, I have been investing in gold since 1998, I also have a very good life insurance policy, the VA pays all of my burial costs, full family benefits, hell I am worth more dead than I am alive! My daughters college fund sits at roughly $170,000. And it is liquid, as is the gold, and I have $35,000 equity in my life insurance policy that is also liquid. These are what I consider untouchables though, they are for my family, not me.

Any way, I am seriously short on time in my life right now, so I will be here when I can.
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I wish you nothing less than overwhelming success. You can do this, it will be difficult at times, but keep holding to your identity, have faith in yourself, and do not look back!
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Nov 29, 2013 20:21:21   #
alex wrote:
well I like her hair and I'm Scot-Irish-welsh-English-Mohawk but personally I think this is a bulls**t story by the left trying to denigrate the religious


After reading this story, I have taken notice of people on TV; many are wearing this style. I still say, if the school has a policy then okay, remind the student but the bullies have to be dealt with. :thumbup: :thumbup:
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Nov 29, 2013 20:21:21   #
alex wrote:
well I like her hair and I'm Scot-Irish-welsh-English-Mohawk but personally I think this is a bulls**t story by the left trying to denigrate the religious


After reading this story, I have taken notice of people on TV; many are wearing this style. I still say, if the school has a policy then okay, remind the student but the bullies have to be dealt with. :thumbup: :thumbup:
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Nov 29, 2013 20:19:00   #
BigMike wrote:
I don't doubt the story (I like her hair too!). I just think the person posting it is leftwing weenie who'd like to piss on our shoes and tell us it's raining. If he wants to knock religion in general, and Christianity in particular just do it, and don't pretend he/she gives a damn about the cute little girl.


I have come to the opinion that Liberals are Professional Negative Thinkers. They, as a group, find bad in everything.
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Nov 29, 2013 13:51:55   #
slatten49 wrote:
8-) I heard a friend once say, "I found Dr. Spocks' book very helpful in raising my children. I used it to pop their little behinds when they got out of line!" :oops: :shock:

A good paddle, perhaps? :lol:


:thumbup: :thumbup: :lol: :lol:

My copy ended up in the garage, along side of a waffle iron. Either could have made a good paper weight. Papa and Moma raised me without the use of that enlightened stuff. When I was young, grandmothers (both sides) and one grandfather lived with us (one passed away, another long story). They were a constant source of information (what I was doing 24/7) for my folks. But, they were also my shield when I needed help in bridging a "communication" block with my parents.
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Nov 29, 2013 09:59:29   #
lpnmajor wrote:
I've seen this developing for years. When One writes a Doctoral thesis, one cannot say " the previous view point is correct ". One must come up with something new. So, over the course of several 1000 new PhD's, "expertise" on child psychology and related fields, has eroded the older common sense knowledge. The " tried and true " has been replaced with the " new and unproven ".
Parents have been successfully raising children for 1000's of years. Our smarter more informed educators have decided that our forebears were i***ts. Why? For the reasons I've outlined above. Once one has earned one's PhD, one must publish papers and/or write books. These books must reinforce one's " thesis premise ". These books go on to become text books for a newer generation of smarter more informed educators. Once an error is introduced it proliferates through education.
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How very right. I remember books written by a Dr. Spock?? I think that was his name, well it was all the rage and it went into detail about child rearing and how wrong the old methods were and harmful to children. I had my first child and bought the book. I had it when I visited my Papa....he took one look at it and gently shock his head. He put his arms around me and spoke very softly, "Gin, people have been having children for many years. Do you really think that all of them were as insane as this man writes?"
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Nov 29, 2013 09:04:20   #
Searching wrote:
Sad commentary on the state of parenthood, isn't it. Two individuals create a child and consider that they have done their part and leave the child to raise itself. In my neighborhood, the likelihood of parents knowing before the child got home that there had been some sort of t***sgression was rather high and so was the likelihood of swift consequences!!


It is extremely sad. This generation of parents are odd, to say it nicely. I am so tired of hearing "good job." It seems anymore if a kid manages to pass gas all on their own, you hear the parent saying "good job!" But, when the same kid acts like an asinine, then you hear nothing. Manners are passé and NO ONE says they are sorry. It is now considered a sign of weakness if you apologize when you hurt someone. Yes, the world is moving on and I long for the days when kids were safe playing outside, when a parent could lay down the laws to their kids without fearing "child abuse" charges being raised. Not that I am a strong believer in corporal discipline, but a smack on the hand or on the rear is sometimes a great way to grab a kid's attention. Now, we fear and some kids run amuck, so the only remedy is medication.....
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