By we are you implying that you are an African American? If so did you also know that African Americans in Africa were selling their own people into s***ery? I am in no way being r****t. Just wanted you to know that in case you didn't. S***ery was a plight on this nation. There are still people today being sold into s***ery. While white people here are guilty of this cruelty, African Americans in Africa have to share the blame. I also read that there were some African Americans here that owned s***es. Just saying!

This site and the things posted are making me crazy, I went off on my friend when we disagreed with him about something, I called him a lying liberal and I yelled in the middle of the library during my studies that liberals are "fucking liars", I am scared because of I have never had so much h**e in my heart at one time, I think I spend too much time on this site, I felt my veins grow in my neck immediately when I got frustrated, and it got to me, not many things like this get to me, I am too young to be cynical and narrow minded, I am going to take a break from thinking for a while...
I ask everyone on this site to calm down, your hatred is making me crazy!

:thumbup: Very astute. I realized after reading your post that I should have perhaps waited until later in the morning :lol: to try and articulate my thoughts. You and oldgeezer are spot on. You are right, you will NEVER change some people. Laws don't change people. They only act to deter some individuals from carrying out out some of their choices of action. Don't ask me why I wasn't thinking along laws of preference, but I wasn't -- so in that respect -- my brain took a momentary leave of absence. :oops: Oldgeezer made some really astute observations. Don't know what color of dunce cap you and AuntiE would think I should wear for that one, but shall dutifully don it and contemplate just what WAS I thinking??!!??

Perhaps, because of the era I grew up in and more so because of the intolerant attitudes in my household, what the word "r****t" stood for then, makes me want to make the word go away. "H**er" -- not sure I'd like to be called that either, but at least it defines a specific individual committing a specific act against someone else, regardless of ethnicity.

ginnyt,
What you say is to the point and it took nerve to say it. I happen to agree about racial preferences AT THIS TIME in our history; you don't get rid of discrimination by discriminating!
The NET effect of "preference" law is probably more bad than it is good at this time in our history in that it does create racial resentment, justifiably to some degree, in the group discriminated against. Our LAWS must treat everyone equally, no matter the race.

If you don't think racial preferential treatment should end at this time, can you pick a time when you think it should? 10 more years, 20, 100, never ?? It isn't fair to the vast majority of black people to treat them as if you think they need preferential treatment to succeed, as a race they don't ! Look around you, see all the prominent, successful black people who are there, obviously qualified without preferential treatment.

Further, preferences just reinforce and encourage the premise that the black race is not as capable as other races, that is not fair to the black persons who want to judged by their capabilities and character. It further discourages effort in some cases where the black person expects preferences to award him the job/position without him having to study/perform. That is not a healthy expectation to instill in any race, so, it is not fair to the person getting the preferences either.

I resent being called a r****t, you are actually demeaning my character when you do that, this further divides the races. You surely understand also that there are actually other forces/persons that are fostering, encouraging, and exaggerating the racial problem for their own political/financial benefit.

There is so much more regarding race relations that needs to be honestly faced, but only if we can have a conversation without being called a r****t by those who wish to divide us.
1oldgeezer

"H**er" -- I like it. R****t has become such a catchall word, so fuzzy in its use. I find people flinging it out there at the drop of a hat. I had someone on OPP call me r****t. I retorted that I was no such thing and then "they" went on to define it just as you have above. Of course, they did it to provoke me and that time they succeeded. I was momentarily rendered unable to key another line.

I'm in total agreement with you that the laws relating to discrimination should be kept in place. Here, where I live, unfortunately, there are both h**ers and r****ts. The KKK is alive and well. No one marches in white sheets, but it is there, quietly acknowledged.

It's time, in my opinion, to retire "r****t" from the English language. The longer we keep the word in circulation, the longer the mere thought of "being different" is kept in negative focus. Diversity, after all, enriches society.

"H**er" leaves nothing to the imagination, and as you previously stated, defines a negative action only by an individual, regardless of ethnicity or background. It takes the race card totally out of the equation. To be perfectly honest, it feels like to me that an awful lot of out and out thugs use the "race" card to hide behind. It time to shine a light on what they really are -- thugs who have total disregard for all of society. I would love to see a shift take place, giving precedence to the seriousness of a person's action instead of keeping the focus on being different, and thereby erroneously defining cause and effect.

Perhaps pop culture has unknowingly done us all a favor and maybe, just maybe, if we all in our every day conversations, make a conscious substitution of the word "h**er" for the "R" word, it will catch on and we will caused a c*****e c****e in society as we know it. I have a video that I have saved and will probably save forever, that, at it's conclusion (it is only 1-minute in length) proffers 6 short words -- "change your words, change the world." Hey, you never know.

That is the response I usually get for the "god issue". But do any of us really know if there is just 1 god? Or a god at all?
The book you use as your reference is hearsay knowledge, that was a group of stories passed on by talismen of many languages and nations. Not written down until several hundred years after the events talked about in those stories happened. Many words that were used back then had no t***slation or interpretation or meaning in other languages as it is today, for example in the Dutch language that has many words that do not t***slate to English or even Latin, so some of the meaning of what was said is lost to those that don't speak or understand Dutch. As with most stories they are embellished a bit more every time they are told to keep the listeners coming, that is how these talismen made their living. The more glorious the tale with unbelievable events told in them means there are more listeners who paid to hear them.
Celtic monks spent decades in the Middle East learning the languages and t***slating the texts they used to write their bibles, books that offended King James, books that said that man could not rule over man, so he went off on a crusade k*****g thousands in the process just to get his own book that he liked, then he went back to England and promptly executed all the monks by burning them alive at the stake, then he gathered up all the books they wrote and burned them all as well. Those were the good christian acts of such a nice monarch, RIGHT! Who would Jesus burn at the stake, alive no less? So I find it very difficult to except any book he had written or picked out of about 40 different t***slations that were available at that time as the real deal. He also burned people at the stake who said the earth might be round, not flat. And you want to believe what he said or the book he liked.
But hey, you have a right to believe wh**ever you like, as do I. Neither of us have actual proof of what we say is fact, it's just a matter of belief.