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Dec 11, 2013 22:08:41   #
Art
 
In our forum it has been brought up that some feel they have been wrongly accused of r****m or that some feel that they have experienced reverse discrimination just by being white. I have read the question somewhere in our forum, “What is R****m?” I goggled, cut and past the text below from various sources and came up with the following Paragraph.


“R****m is a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race. R****m and ethnic discrimination in the United States has been a major issue since the colonial era and the s***e era. Many non-Protestant European immigrant groups, particularly Jews, Irish people, Poles and Italians, suffered xenophobic exclusion and other forms of discrimination in American society in the past. Major racially and ethnically structured institutions included s***ery, Indian Wars, Native American reservations, segregation, residential schools for Native Americans, and internment camps. Formal racial discrimination was largely banned in the mid-20th century, and came to be perceived as socially unacceptable and/or morally repugnant as well, yet racial politics remain a major phenomenon.”


Some black recording artist spew their hatred of white people with impunity in their songs. To call these celebrities on their hatred seems to be dismissed by their fans or even worse you could be called a r****t. Today we have a black President and people are labeled by some activists as r****t should they oppose him. I have family and acquaintances who are r****ts, but just because I may share some of their political perspectives, I may risk being called a r****t.


I have notice the use of "H**er" going around lately. I’ve seen it on Facebook, T-shirts, and even brought up by comedians such as Jimmy Fallan during a monolog. I like this term. If a young kid of color punches an old man, if my neighbor calls person of color a n*gger, if a black guy calls a white guy a cr*cker, they all could be called a “H**er”. Using the term “H**er” takes away the stereotypical restriction of who is a r****t and really defines a person’s action or state of mind.


I think r****m still exist in the US, but laws have worked to protect and empower minorities and have been mostly effective and should stay in place. I notice that many younger adults have not experience the intense r****m that was so prevalent and lethal in America’s past. But pop culture uses a different label "H**er", that focuses on a person’s negative behavior. That label refers to an individual who owns it and no one else. Maybe the term r****t may just fade away if society labels an individual for the content of their character and not the group they may seem to belong to. I think I like this. How about you?

references:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=h**er

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R****m_in_the_United_States

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/r****m

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Dec 11, 2013 23:45:07   #
cesspool jones Loc: atlanta
 
Art wrote:
In our forum it has been brought up that some feel they have been wrongly accused of r****m or that some feel that they have experienced reverse discrimination just by being white. I have read the question somewhere in our forum, “What is R****m?” I goggled, cut and past the text below from various sources and came up with the following Paragraph.


“R****m is a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race. R****m and ethnic discrimination in the United States has been a major issue since the colonial era and the s***e era. Many non-Protestant European immigrant groups, particularly Jews, Irish people, Poles and Italians, suffered xenophobic exclusion and other forms of discrimination in American society in the past. Major racially and ethnically structured institutions included s***ery, Indian Wars, Native American reservations, segregation, residential schools for Native Americans, and internment camps. Formal racial discrimination was largely banned in the mid-20th century, and came to be perceived as socially unacceptable and/or morally repugnant as well, yet racial politics remain a major phenomenon.”


Some black recording artist spew their hatred of white people with impunity in their songs. To call these celebrities on their hatred seems to be dismissed by their fans or even worse you could be called a r****t. Today we have a black President and people are labeled by some activists as r****t should they oppose him. I have family and acquaintances who are r****ts, but just because I may share some of their political perspectives, I may risk being called a r****t.


I have notice the use of "H**er" going around lately. I’ve seen it on Facebook, T-shirts, and even brought up by comedians such as Jimmy Fallan during a monolog. I like this term. If a young kid of color punches an old man, if my neighbor calls person of color a n*gger, if a black guy calls a white guy a cr*cker, they all could be called a “H**er”. Using the term “H**er” takes away the stereotypical restriction of who is a r****t and really defines a person’s action or state of mind.


I think r****m still exist in the US, but laws have worked to protect and empower minorities and have been mostly effective and should stay in place. I notice that many younger adults have not experience the intense r****m that was so prevalent and lethal in America’s past. But pop culture uses a different label "H**er", that focuses on a person’s negative behavior. That label refers to an individual who owns it and no one else. Maybe the term r****t may just fade away if society labels an individual for the content of their character and not the group they may seem to belong to. I think I like this. How about you?

references:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=h**er

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R****m_in_the_United_States

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/r****m
In our forum it has been brought up that some feel... (show quote)

do you realize that the 'trenchcoat media' is doing (successfully) what the viet cong tried to do (unsuccessfully) some 45 years ago?...stoking r****m! our enemy was fully aware of the civil rights movement going on back then and tried to bring that to the jungles of vietnam by picking off black G.I.'s first when out on patrol. it didn't work. our asshole media is confusing 'philosophy and ideology' with 'r****m' because they got lucky by a black man leading the way with their twisted 'collective ideology' and now anyone who still believes in the american dream is now considered a r****t simply by disagreeing with collective thought. these people are the enemy and need to be treated as so and i don't care if they are american! i always said, back during the american civil war, how can an american h**e another american so much? now i know



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Dec 12, 2013 00:15:11   #
Searching Loc: Rural Southwest VA
 
Art wrote:
In our forum it has been brought up that some feel they have been wrongly accused of r****m or that some feel that they have experienced reverse discrimination just by being white. I have read the question somewhere in our forum, “What is R****m?” I goggled, cut and past the text below from various sources and came up with the following Paragraph.


“R****m is a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race. R****m and ethnic discrimination in the United States has been a major issue since the colonial era and the s***e era. Many non-Protestant European immigrant groups, particularly Jews, Irish people, Poles and Italians, suffered xenophobic exclusion and other forms of discrimination in American society in the past. Major racially and ethnically structured institutions included s***ery, Indian Wars, Native American reservations, segregation, residential schools for Native Americans, and internment camps. Formal racial discrimination was largely banned in the mid-20th century, and came to be perceived as socially unacceptable and/or morally repugnant as well, yet racial politics remain a major phenomenon.”


Some black recording artist spew their hatred of white people with impunity in their songs. To call these celebrities on their hatred seems to be dismissed by their fans or even worse you could be called a r****t. Today we have a black President and people are labeled by some activists as r****t should they oppose him. I have family and acquaintances who are r****ts, but just because I may share some of their political perspectives, I may risk being called a r****t.


I have notice the use of "H**er" going around lately. I’ve seen it on Facebook, T-shirts, and even brought up by comedians such as Jimmy Fallan during a monolog. I like this term. If a young kid of color punches an old man, if my neighbor calls person of color a n*gger, if a black guy calls a white guy a cr*cker, they all could be called a “H**er”. Using the term “H**er” takes away the stereotypical restriction of who is a r****t and really defines a person’s action or state of mind.


I think r****m still exist in the US, but laws have worked to protect and empower minorities and have been mostly effective and should stay in place. I notice that many younger adults have not experience the intense r****m that was so prevalent and lethal in America’s past. But pop culture uses a different label "H**er", that focuses on a person’s negative behavior. That label refers to an individual who owns it and no one else. Maybe the term r****t may just fade away if society labels an individual for the content of their character and not the group they may seem to belong to. I think I like this. How about you?

references:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=h**er

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R****m_in_the_United_States

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/r****m
In our forum it has been brought up that some feel... (show quote)


"H**er" -- I like it. R****t has become such a catchall word, so fuzzy in its use. I find people flinging it out there at the drop of a hat. I had someone on OPP call me r****t. I retorted that I was no such thing and then "they" went on to define it just as you have above. Of course, they did it to provoke me and that time they succeeded. I was momentarily rendered unable to key another line.

I'm in total agreement with you that the laws relating to discrimination should be kept in place. Here, where I live, unfortunately, there are both h**ers and r****ts. The KKK is alive and well. No one marches in white sheets, but it is there, quietly acknowledged.

It's time, in my opinion, to retire "r****t" from the English language. The longer we keep the word in circulation, the longer the mere thought of "being different" is kept in negative focus. Diversity, after all, enriches society.

"H**er" leaves nothing to the imagination, and as you previously stated, defines a negative action only by an individual, regardless of ethnicity or background. It takes the race card totally out of the equation. To be perfectly honest, it feels like to me that an awful lot of out and out thugs use the "race" card to hide behind. It time to shine a light on what they really are -- thugs who have total disregard for all of society. I would love to see a shift take place, giving precedence to the seriousness of a person's action instead of keeping the focus on being different, and thereby erroneously defining cause and effect.

Perhaps pop culture has unknowingly done us all a favor and maybe, just maybe, if we all in our every day conversations, make a conscious substitution of the word "h**er" for the "R" word, it will catch on and we will caused a c*****e c****e in society as we know it. I have a video that I have saved and will probably save forever, that, at it's conclusion (it is only 1-minute in length) proffers 6 short words -- "change your words, change the world." Hey, you never know.

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Dec 12, 2013 01:13:53   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Searching wrote:
"H**er" -- I like it. R****t has become such a catchall word, so fuzzy in its use. I find people flinging it out there at the drop of a hat. I had someone on OPP call me r****t. I retorted that I was no such thing and then "they" went on to define it just as you have above. Of course, they did it to provoke me and that time they succeeded. I was momentarily rendered unable to key another line.

I'm in total agreement with you that the laws relating to discrimination should be kept in place. Here, where I live, unfortunately, there are both h**ers and r****ts. The KKK is alive and well. No one marches in white sheets, but it is there, quietly acknowledged.

It's time, in my opinion, to retire "r****t" from the English language. The longer we keep the word in circulation, the longer the mere thought of "being different" is kept in negative focus. Diversity, after all, enriches society.

"H**er" leaves nothing to the imagination, and as you previously stated, defines a negative action only by an individual, regardless of ethnicity or background. It takes the race card totally out of the equation. To be perfectly honest, it feels like to me that an awful lot of out and out thugs use the "race" card to hide behind. It time to shine a light on what they really are -- thugs who have total disregard for all of society. I would love to see a shift take place, giving precedence to the seriousness of a person's action instead of keeping the focus on being different, and thereby erroneously defining cause and effect.

Perhaps pop culture has unknowingly done us all a favor and maybe, just maybe, if we all in our every day conversations, make a conscious substitution of the word "h**er" for the "R" word, it will catch on and we will caused a c*****e c****e in society as we know it. I have a video that I have saved and will probably save forever, that, at it's conclusion (it is only 1-minute in length) proffers 6 short words -- "change your words, change the world." Hey, you never know.
"H**er" -- I like it. R****t has become... (show quote)


I do agree with the term. But, I disagree that we need a double standard. Double standards often creates hostility. If everyone is treated on the same level, same laws, same jail time, same across the board then much of the discrimination experienced back a few hundred years will work its self out. eliminate preference, eliminate reason. As for the KKK, they may still be around, but there are no laws that will ever change people.

So, I guess someone will say that I am a raciest or h**er for this comment, but frankly those people do not want to face the t***h.

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Dec 12, 2013 07:21:58   #
1OldGeezer
 
ginnyt wrote:
I do agree with the term. But, I disagree that we need a double standard. Double standards often creates hostility. If everyone is treated on the same level, same laws, same jail time, same across the board then much of the discrimination experienced back a few hundred years will work its self out. eliminate preference, eliminate reason. As for the KKK, they may still be around, but there are no laws that will ever change people.

So, I guess someone will say that I am a raciest or h**er for this comment, but frankly those people do not want to face the t***h.
I do agree with the term. But, I disagree that w... (show quote)


ginnyt,
What you say is to the point and it took nerve to say it. I happen to agree about racial preferences AT THIS TIME in our history; you don't get rid of discrimination by discriminating!
The NET effect of "preference" law is probably more bad than it is good at this time in our history in that it does create racial resentment, justifiably to some degree, in the group discriminated against. Our LAWS must treat everyone equally, no matter the race.

If you don't think racial preferential treatment should end at this time, can you pick a time when you think it should? 10 more years, 20, 100, never ?? It isn't fair to the vast majority of black people to treat them as if you think they need preferential treatment to succeed, as a race they don't ! Look around you, see all the prominent, successful black people who are there, obviously qualified without preferential treatment.

Further, preferences just reinforce and encourage the premise that the black race is not as capable as other races, that is not fair to the black persons who want to judged by their capabilities and character. It further discourages effort in some cases where the black person expects preferences to award him the job/position without him having to study/perform. That is not a healthy expectation to instill in any race, so, it is not fair to the person getting the preferences either.

I resent being called a r****t, you are actually demeaning my character when you do that, this further divides the races. You surely understand also that there are actually other forces/persons that are fostering, encouraging, and exaggerating the racial problem for their own political/financial benefit.

There is so much more regarding race relations that needs to be honestly faced, but only if we can have a conversation without being called a r****t by those who wish to divide us.
1oldgeezer

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Dec 12, 2013 08:59:19   #
db4me
 
Art wrote:
In our forum it has been brought up that some feel they have been wrongly accused of r****m or that some feel that they have experienced reverse discrimination just by being white. I have read the question somewhere in our forum, “What is R****m?” I goggled, cut and past the text below from various sources and came up with the following Paragraph.


“R****m is a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race. R****m and ethnic discrimination in the United States has been a major issue since the colonial era and the s***e era. Many non-Protestant European immigrant groups, particularly Jews, Irish people, Poles and Italians, suffered xenophobic exclusion and other forms of discrimination in American society in the past. Major racially and ethnically structured institutions included s***ery, Indian Wars, Native American reservations, segregation, residential schools for Native Americans, and internment camps. Formal racial discrimination was largely banned in the mid-20th century, and came to be perceived as socially unacceptable and/or morally repugnant as well, yet racial politics remain a major phenomenon.”


Some black recording artist spew their hatred of white people with impunity in their songs. To call these celebrities on their hatred seems to be dismissed by their fans or even worse you could be called a r****t. Today we have a black President and people are labeled by some activists as r****t should they oppose him. I have family and acquaintances who are r****ts, but just because I may share some of their political perspectives, I may risk being called a r****t.


I have notice the use of "H**er" going around lately. I’ve seen it on Facebook, T-shirts, and even brought up by comedians such as Jimmy Fallan during a monolog. I like this term. If a young kid of color punches an old man, if my neighbor calls person of color a n*gger, if a black guy calls a white guy a cr*cker, they all could be called a “H**er”. Using the term “H**er” takes away the stereotypical restriction of who is a r****t and really defines a person’s action or state of mind.


I think r****m still exist in the US, but laws have worked to protect and empower minorities and have been mostly effective and should stay in place. I notice that many younger adults have not experience the intense r****m that was so prevalent and lethal in America’s past. But pop culture uses a different label "H**er", that focuses on a person’s negative behavior. That label refers to an individual who owns it and no one else. Maybe the term r****t may just fade away if society labels an individual for the content of their character and not the group they may seem to belong to. I think I like this. How about you?

references:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=h**er

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R****m_in_the_United_States

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/r****m
In our forum it has been brought up that some feel... (show quote)


A catch all term. Pretty much covers things. It does take the question of r****m and turns it into what it really is, H**e. I like it.

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Dec 12, 2013 09:00:23   #
taijean
 
THANK YOU, ART.. A VERY GOOD , SIMPLE OBSERVATION.. THANK YOU FOR SOME NUTRITIOUS FOOD FOR THOUGHT... jean sullivan

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Dec 12, 2013 09:07:22   #
Searching Loc: Rural Southwest VA
 
ginnyt wrote:
I do agree with the term. But, I disagree that we need a double standard. Double standards often creates hostility. If everyone is treated on the same level, same laws, same jail time, same across the board then much of the discrimination experienced back a few hundred years will work its self out. eliminate preference, eliminate reason. As for the KKK, they may still be around, but there are no laws that will ever change people.

So, I guess someone will say that I am a raciest or h**er for this comment, but frankly those people do not want to face the t***h.
I do agree with the term. But, I disagree that w... (show quote)



:thumbup: Very astute. I realized after reading your post that I should have perhaps waited until later in the morning :lol: to try and articulate my thoughts. You and oldgeezer are spot on. You are right, you will NEVER change some people. Laws don't change people. They only act to deter some individuals from carrying out out some of their choices of action. Don't ask me why I wasn't thinking along laws of preference, but I wasn't -- so in that respect -- my brain took a momentary leave of absence. :oops: Oldgeezer made some really astute observations. Don't know what color of dunce cap you and AuntiE would think I should wear for that one, but shall dutifully don it and contemplate just what WAS I thinking??!!??

Perhaps, because of the era I grew up in and more so because of the intolerant attitudes in my household, what the word "r****t" stood for then, makes me want to make the word go away. "H**er" -- not sure I'd like to be called that either, but at least it defines a specific individual committing a specific act against someone else, regardless of ethnicity.

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Dec 12, 2013 09:19:15   #
Searching Loc: Rural Southwest VA
 
1OldGeezer wrote:
ginnyt,
What you say is to the point and it took nerve to say it. I happen to agree about racial preferences AT THIS TIME in our history; you don't get rid of discrimination by discriminating!
The NET effect of "preference" law is probably more bad than it is good at this time in our history in that it does create racial resentment, justifiably to some degree, in the group discriminated against. Our LAWS must treat everyone equally, no matter the race.

If you don't think racial preferential treatment should end at this time, can you pick a time when you think it should? 10 more years, 20, 100, never ?? It isn't fair to the vast majority of black people to treat them as if you think they need preferential treatment to succeed, as a race they don't ! Look around you, see all the prominent, successful black people who are there, obviously qualified without preferential treatment.

Further, preferences just reinforce and encourage the premise that the black race is not as capable as other races, that is not fair to the black persons who want to judged by their capabilities and character. It further discourages effort in some cases where the black person expects preferences to award him the job/position without him having to study/perform. That is not a healthy expectation to instill in any race, so, it is not fair to the person getting the preferences either.

I resent being called a r****t, you are actually demeaning my character when you do that, this further divides the races. You surely understand also that there are actually other forces/persons that are fostering, encouraging, and exaggerating the racial problem for their own political/financial benefit.

There is so much more regarding race relations that needs to be honestly faced, but only if we can have a conversation without being called a r****t by those who wish to divide us.
1oldgeezer
ginnyt, br What you say is to the point and it too... (show quote)


:thumbup: :thumbup:You are spot on. As I told ginnyt, I should have waited until later in the morning to respond. My brain obviously was napping (perhaps because of the time of morning I chose to respond, perhaps not) because I wasn't thinking laws of preference. Laws of preference do insult. I shall go take a timeout now to ponder where my brain went. :oops:

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Dec 12, 2013 10:21:18   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
Art wrote:
In our forum it has been brought up that some feel they have been wrongly accused of r****m or that some feel that they have experienced reverse discrimination just by being white. I have read the question somewhere in our forum, “What is R****m?” I goggled, cut and past the text below from various sources and came up with the following Paragraph.


“R****m is a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race. R****m and ethnic discrimination in the United States has been a major issue since the colonial era and the s***e era. Many non-Protestant European immigrant groups, particularly Jews, Irish people, Poles and Italians, suffered xenophobic exclusion and other forms of discrimination in American society in the past. Major racially and ethnically structured institutions included s***ery, Indian Wars, Native American reservations, segregation, residential schools for Native Americans, and internment camps. Formal racial discrimination was largely banned in the mid-20th century, and came to be perceived as socially unacceptable and/or morally repugnant as well, yet racial politics remain a major phenomenon.”


Some black recording artist spew their hatred of white people with impunity in their songs. To call these celebrities on their hatred seems to be dismissed by their fans or even worse you could be called a r****t. Today we have a black President and people are labeled by some activists as r****t should they oppose him. I have family and acquaintances who are r****ts, but just because I may share some of their political perspectives, I may risk being called a r****t.


I have notice the use of "H**er" going around lately. I’ve seen it on Facebook, T-shirts, and even brought up by comedians such as Jimmy Fallan during a monolog. I like this term. If a young kid of color punches an old man, if my neighbor calls person of color a n*gger, if a black guy calls a white guy a cr*cker, they all could be called a “H**er”. Using the term “H**er” takes away the stereotypical restriction of who is a r****t and really defines a person’s action or state of mind.


I think r****m still exist in the US, but laws have worked to protect and empower minorities and have been mostly effective and should stay in place. I notice that many younger adults have not experience the intense r****m that was so prevalent and lethal in America’s past. But pop culture uses a different label "H**er", that focuses on a person’s negative behavior. That label refers to an individual who owns it and no one else. Maybe the term r****t may just fade away if society labels an individual for the content of their character and not the group they may seem to belong to. I think I like this. How about you?

references:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=h**er

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R****m_in_the_United_States

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/r****m
In our forum it has been brought up that some feel... (show quote)


I'm in harmony with your assessment. I think it interesting that the only people who ever accuse someone of being r****t are those on the political left. There is a reason for that. Those on the political right have no cause and no reward for accusing another of r****m. Those on the political left merely use it as a tool to shut the other person up. The fact that it doesn't work too well seems to be lost on them.

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Dec 12, 2013 10:25:37   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
cesspool jones wrote:
do you realize that the 'trenchcoat media' is doing (successfully) what the viet cong tried to do (unsuccessfully) some 45 years ago?...stoking r****m! our enemy was fully aware of the civil rights movement going on back then and tried to bring that to the jungles of vietnam by picking off black G.I.'s first when out on patrol. it didn't work. our asshole media is confusing 'philosophy and ideology' with 'r****m' because they got lucky by a black man leading the way with their twisted 'collective ideology' and now anyone who still believes in the american dream is now considered a r****t simply by disagreeing with collective thought. these people are the enemy and need to be treated as so and i don't care if they are american! i always said, back during the american civil war, how can an american h**e another american so much? now i know
do you realize that the 'trenchcoat media' is doin... (show quote)

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And my thinking is in harmony with yours as well as the post's. There is NOTHING that indicates r****m when thinking people despise policies put up that we KNOW will harm many Americans. There is NOTHING that indicates r****m when thinking people simply do not like another person, regardless of color. The only people keeping r****m alive are B****S and nutty w****s.

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Dec 12, 2013 10:34:50   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
1OldGeezer wrote:
ginnyt,
What you say is to the point and it took nerve to say it. I happen to agree about racial preferences AT THIS TIME in our history; you don't get rid of discrimination by discriminating!
The NET effect of "preference" law is probably more bad than it is good at this time in our history in that it does create racial resentment, justifiably to some degree, in the group discriminated against. Our LAWS must treat everyone equally, no matter the race.

If you don't think racial preferential treatment should end at this time, can you pick a time when you think it should? 10 more years, 20, 100, never ?? It isn't fair to the vast majority of black people to treat them as if you think they need preferential treatment to succeed, as a race they don't ! Look around you, see all the prominent, successful black people who are there, obviously qualified without preferential treatment.

Further, preferences just reinforce and encourage the premise that the black race is not as capable as other races, that is not fair to the black persons who want to judged by their capabilities and character. It further discourages effort in some cases where the black person expects preferences to award him the job/position without him having to study/perform. That is not a healthy expectation to instill in any race, so, it is not fair to the person getting the preferences either.

I resent being called a r****t, you are actually demeaning my character when you do that, this further divides the races. You surely understand also that there are actually other forces/persons that are fostering, encouraging, and exaggerating the racial problem for their own political/financial benefit.

There is so much more regarding race relations that needs to be honestly faced, but only if we can have a conversation without being called a r****t by those who wish to divide us.
1oldgeezer
ginnyt, br What you say is to the point and it too... (show quote)


All preferential treatment should stop immediately. After so many years of biased hiring, promoting, housing, education, and etc, it is time for it to end. My opinion is we created a sub civilization in the US. They are loosing respect for themselves and others by being collided and treated outside of equal treatment. If everyone is honest, then they would admit that they have either gotten a job, house, etc due to their race or sex, and on the same level every European decent individual would say that they have lost the same due to their race. That encourages resentment, and like any class that is elevated above their contemporaries, that special class(es) abuse their status. I recognize that some 60 years ago or longer, these laws were necessary. I agree that many times black, Asian, Hispanics were denied basic considerations. But that is not the case now. Now the pendulum has swung to the far side. If after 2 or 3 generations special people have not succeeded, then are the laws really working? No one has the right to live freely off of their neighbor's labor. No one is entitled to anything due to the hue of their skin tone or their sex or sexual preference or their eye color, or or or . I could go on, but I tend to be long winded and sound as though I am ranting.

I am called a raciest by some people on this site, but they may be looking at life through glasses which need cleaning so my words are read instead of scanned. I am at the point that if people see me as a raciest because I can see that biased laws create biased people, then so be it!

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Dec 12, 2013 10:43:23   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Searching wrote:
:thumbup: Very astute. I realized after reading your post that I should have perhaps waited until later in the morning :lol: to try and articulate my thoughts. You and oldgeezer are spot on. You are right, you will NEVER change some people. Laws don't change people. They only act to deter some individuals from carrying out out some of their choices of action. Don't ask me why I wasn't thinking along laws of preference, but I wasn't -- so in that respect -- my brain took a momentary leave of absence. :oops: Oldgeezer made some really astute observations. Don't know what color of dunce cap you and AuntiE would think I should wear for that one, but shall dutifully don it and contemplate just what WAS I thinking??!!??

Perhaps, because of the era I grew up in and more so because of the intolerant attitudes in my household, what the word "r****t" stood for then, makes me want to make the word go away. "H**er" -- not sure I'd like to be called that either, but at least it defines a specific individual committing a specific act against someone else, regardless of ethnicity.
:thumbup: Very astute. I realized after reading ... (show quote)


No, there are many layers to this issue, you were looking at one and I am sure you would have come to the next logical step in your own time. So, do not worry you addressed on plane of this multi-tear problem.

Of note, AuntiE may assign caps and such. I do not, for I see that you are methodical in your approach!

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Dec 12, 2013 10:45:04   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
ginnyt wrote:
All preferential treatment should stop immediately. After so many years of biased hiring, promoting, housing, education, and etc, it is time for it to end. I am at the point that if people see me as a raciest because I can see that biased laws create biased people, then so be it!

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Dec 12, 2013 10:50:41   #
Searching Loc: Rural Southwest VA
 
ginnyt wrote:
All preferential treatment should stop immediately. After so many years of biased hiring, promoting, housing, education, and etc, it is time for it to end. My opinion is we created a sub civilization in the US. They are loosing respect for themselves and others by being collided and treated outside of equal treatment. If everyone is honest, then they would admit that they have either gotten a job, house, etc due to their race or sex, and on the same level every European decent individual would say that they have lost the same due to their race. That encourages resentment, and like any class that is elevated above their contemporaries, that special class(es) abuse their status. I recognize that some 60 years ago or longer, these laws were necessary. I agree that many times black, Asian, Hispanics were denied basic considerations. But that is not the case now. Now the pendulum has swung to the far side. If after 2 or 3 generations special people have not succeeded, then are the laws really working? No one has the right to live freely off of their neighbor's labor. No one is entitled to anything due to the hue of their skin tone or their sex or sexual preference or their eye color, or or or . I could go on, but I tend to be long winded and sound as though I am ranting.

I am called a raciest by some people on this site, but they may be looking at life through glasses which need cleaning so my words are read instead of scanned. I am at the point that if people see me as a raciest because I can see that biased laws create biased people, then so be it!
All preferential treatment should stop immediately... (show quote)


To borrow a phrase from a friend of mine, you are NOT long winded, you are "loquacious" -- and as for the perception of ranting, perish the thought!!

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