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Mar 15, 2014 12:21:59   #
I beg to differ with you. First, I am wealthy. In fact my entire family is what many call rich. My income is well into six figures without the use of a decimal point each month and my bank account is well over the none of anyone's business balance and that does not include business I own and stocks. My father left me money because his father did....all the way back to whenever. Each person that inherits are given the same challenge, leave more for your children than I left for you. To that end, I have worked my entire life. All of my family worked until retirement and even some afterward. We invested our money, we saved, and yes we do not owe anyone one single penny. And I am fulfilling the wish of my father, I am leaving my children more than what he left me. If that is somehow wrong in your books of balances, then it is wrong. But, I can tell you that we are not stingy people. I will not go into detail, but we give more to our community, the poor, and even to our youth in form of scholarships. In fact, I started one in the name of my late husband only 2 years ago. We are far from selfish. And I resent you implying that we are!

Floyd Brown wrote:
You seem like a nice person & lead a good life.

But what I think you fail to realize is that the wealth that is building up in the hands of those so called hard working people is not being made by hard work on their part.

It is their money that makes them richer. Money in a system that puts money ahead of human effort.

Money that keeps getting sucked up in to the hands of the few that use that money to make more money.

That money is sucked up from those of us that do the real work.

If you are so happy with giving more & getting less for you effort than is fair then you will continue to live in a country & world that will only get worse. More people every day falling behind. How many days before it is you or I needing hand outs?

I may have enough for a couple of years & I hope you have enough also.

Life is just a game for those that have the money.
A game where it is not to how much you have but to see how much more you can get. It dose not matter where or from who or how they get it.

Some how I few that you are too nice a person to play that game. But by stepping aside you let others play the game & that is not in your best interests.

For those that seem to want to set on the sideline the answer lays in what the government does to even things out a little.

I on the other hand am playing in the game. But I am only in the game trying to keep up. Evey day the cost of things keep going up. My having a nest egg comes from living on less that I take in.

Just some random thoughts that go through my mind.
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Mar 15, 2014 11:58:00   #
Well said, but I can not figure out to whom you are addressing your comments. It is helpful if you use the quote reply button.

davecollins wrote:
I grew up and went through high school with some very good black people. We never had disagreements, fights, or anything else that had the connotations of race issues. It was boys and girls, men and women issues, not race. Hell, unless your completely blind the biggest difference between races IS color. Race becomes an issue when one race wants something the other race has and a fight ensues. I was in a college sociology class back in the 70's after I returned from my Army stint overseas and this black guy starts ranting and raving about the white man and s***ery. I listened as long as I could and finally stood up, looked in the eye, and asked him if he was proud to be black - his answer - "you bet I am, man". Well, I'm proud to be white and neither of us can change who we are, we can only improve how we act, how we look, and what we do to improve our lives - white or black. The instructor thought for sure there was going to be some type of physical confrontation, but this black kid and I finally agreed that I didn't put him into s***ery, he has never been in s***ery, only his ancestors were s***es - don't blame me and ALL w****s for that part of history. The basic issue is white is white, black is black, and when you mix the two you get light brown half breeds - milatos - that's a fact - not r****m. If the b****s would just look into a mirror they would understand why they have issues and who's responsible for them. As it is now they get all kinds of preferential treatment only because of the color of their skin. They say they want jobs - how about they want to WORK for their pay - not just have it handed to them because they're black. When welfare and "state support" are your only source of survival - God help us.
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Mar 15, 2014 11:44:49   #
B****sheep wrote:
Yes. Which is exactly why the likes of Sharpton and the NAACP should be relegated to some historical ash heap and b****s who speak out against black r****m should be applauded.


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Mar 15, 2014 11:43:48   #
Brian Devon wrote:
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Ginny, I will dignify the first part. You tip your bigoted hand when you use the word "negro". People with manners call other people by the word(s) that they prefer to call themselves. This does not mean using words from the distant past. Black people prefer the word "Black". Do you refer to yourself as a Hebrew? Black people have discarded the word negro. I polled every single black person in America last night. You know what they told me?
They said they will start using the term Negro again when Euro-Americans start calling themselves "Blanco".

FYI, Negro is the Spanish word for black. Blanco is the Spanish word for white.

Regarding the Jewish v**e for President Obama, my bad.
CNN in its exit poll showed that the president "only" beat Romney by a margin of two to one. The president "only"got a trivial 69% of the Jewish v**e, compared to Romney's massive Jewish v**e percentage of 32%.

I apologize deeply for being off by 6%.
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First, I do not care that you take offense at me using the world Negro. They are what they are. I also call homosexuals Q***r. That offends you to. I do not care! The reasons that you find them offensive are your personal baggage and I do not care about you, or your personal preferences. I can not be more clear than this while remaining polite.

As for your preoccupation about how my people v**e, well that is our business. And we will see how much the tide has changed during the next e******ns. I suspect that you are in for quite the surprise.
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Mar 15, 2014 11:30:42   #
You do know that Craigslist will not allow the posting of animals for sale or even free to good homes because the mistreatment, sexual, of dogs is so wide spread. People are just sick now a days. Yes, I can see where the redefining of marriage will have an impact. Not only does it allow homosexual marriages, but now that it is widespread laws about incest and marriage into one's own family is being challenged. Many states have laws about marring cousins, those laws are under fire. The denigration of the US....... God help us!

no propaganda please wrote:
Since it was a homosexual marriage, I would expect the "Gay Rights" movement will celebrate. The warnings that as soon as you open the floodgates for redefining the word "marriage" to include same sex, a great many other things will have to be included. So far multiple persons marriage and man-boy "relationships" are on the table for discussion , and the question of adult incest as a valid marriage is entering the discussion, why not man and sheep or woman and dog? The first step has been taken to destroy society, and I expect it to keep "Progressing" until there is no structure left in society at all and all behaviors,including rape, murder and theft will be fine and non criminal. After all, through out history, these behaviors have happened so they must be "normal"

Years ago, I had a friend who was looking for a home for an adult male dog, and one of the people who called asked "Can I use him" the friend assumed that the caller wanted to put the dog, which was registered and intact, out for stud service. As the conversation progressed it turned out that the woman wanted to have sex with the dog,the stud service was for her, not female dogs. I also know of a case, and I am sure it isn't the only time, where they sold a dog to a homosexual male couple, and had to take the dog back because it had turned vicious. The men were sodomizing the dog, and the dog had finally had enough of the pain, and bit one of them in a very private place. I say "Good for the dog" Maybe they should have married the dog first and it would have been OK.
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Mar 15, 2014 11:23:17   #
Welcome to OPP. I am glad that you are here. Having said that, may I ask that you use the quote reply button so we know to whom you are replying? Thank you.

Ron Blower wrote:
Greed is the driving force behind those conclusions and all the wee conclusions leading up to the place where one can despise, maginalize or ignore completely (not REALLY "H**e")those in need whom God has Decreed we care for.

I've found no way to Evangelize these Christians. Absent, AND personal acceptance of, a Move by the Holy Spirit on those so caught-up in such a pernicious sin; mind-to-mind in my experience simply fails... or, better said, I suppose... I'VE failed in "my experience". l8-[

NOW, naturally, they've developed their own Doctrine and can thank God they're so-Blessed (Prosperity Doctrine).

Having said THAT(!!), I'm far, far from being a creature politically known as "Liberal". l8-]
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Mar 15, 2014 11:16:25   #
You know, I often wonder about things. I have been around the world and I have been to Africa to the places that tourist do not go. Which brings me to my thoughts. Africa is a very rich country. It has everything to make it great, but people continue to live in conditions that are extremely primitive. Clothes are washed in streams, children go days without adequate food, homes are... well, I think you get the idea. I have been to South America, another place that is rich beyond anything we have in the US. But, again the people are primitive. All the nations that are primarily Negro or Negro decent, and you find this in our own inner cities, they are primitive in their actions and thoughts. Why is that? If you have everything that you could possibly need to be greater than all other nations, why are they not? Do not say that it is corrupt governments when the governments change often, even in these places. Do not say that they do not have at their disposal modern education because the Brits, Ozies, and Americans spends billions to ensure they are given the right equipment and instructors. So, why? No one has been able to give me a satisfactory response.

So, Dave I guess I am with you. Your choice of words have schocked some people and offended others, but once your meaning is realized then there are not many who can present an argument. You will find that those who reply in anger, their replies are directed at you on a personal level, they do not approach the questions that you raise. I too am tired of the race card. I too am tired of the "angry black man" BS. It is time for all of us to pull our own weight, for those who live in hives of the ghetto to stop trashing the cities, for them to stop the scheming to put their hands in other's pockets so they can live without having to work or take responsibility. I am tired of the welfare system that fosters more welfare receivers. To me, forced sterilization should be considered for those who are nothing more than baby factories. I too think that our borders need to be closed, and only those who can prove that they have funds to live or a sk**l needed should be allowed to immigrate into the US. All i******s should be given exit passes. This is how OZ handled their immigration problems and although the rest of the world was angered, it has been working for years and they have surpassed the US in many ways to include education. It is not perfect, but it did solve the problems.

davecollins wrote:
It's really not rage - it's controlled anger that the ethiopians are always given special consideration, favors, welfare, preferential treatment simply because their skin is darker than a caucasion. They want someone to GIVE them something for doing absolutely nothing other than trying to smell better - and you can bet that the fullest space on the grocery shelf is the deordorant section. I don't go around looking for trouble with w****s or b****s or hispanics or indians or asians, but when anyone rubs race in my face with the race card I'm not going to just sit back and keep the facts from being told. It's relatively simple - if we look at some of the statistics such as % of prisoners that are black, the number of high school dropouts that are black, the number of unwed pregnancies that are black, the % of crimes committed by b****s, etc., etc., etc., we soon realize that the majority of negatives among b****s certainly proves that their race is far from being acceptable in a civilized society - i.e., african heritage in the jungles and the deserts. They ruin every neighborhood they move into - hence - the ghettos. Every city in this country, without exception, has their GHETTO where the ethiopians congregate.
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Mar 15, 2014 10:48:55   #
Let me see if I can answer your questions. First I do not look for any return for anything I give. I give for two reasons, 1. It is the right thing to do and 2. It is part of my teachings. I am not sure what to make of your second question. Giving is part of my culture. What a person does with the gift, that is up to them. There have been and always will be people that have needs. We can not help each person, it is physically, economically, and logistically impossible. There never will be a society that does not have a person that every once in a while will run into unforeseen problems and those people should be helped. It is not my responsibility to ensure that the people who make bad decisions, who refuse to work, who are just baby factories are ensured a rich life. Each person sets their standards and they work toward those standards. If you are like some, they may think that having enough for their immediate needs is sufficient and therefore they live from pay to pay. There are some that think that the nation owes them a good life and they are the ones that steal, c***t, lie and spend their lives scheming their next score from the comfort of their sofa (complements of the government) in their abode (complements of the government) while getting high (complements of the government) while 3 or 4 children run around taking lessons from their parents on how to s**m the system. Then there are others who have a little bit, work hard and save, those are the ones that the government hit in the midriff and over tax and overwork. But, somehow these people pull themselves up and become wealthy and they pass that wealth on to their children along with work ethics, traditions, and the attitude that no one owes them anything. If they want something, they have to do it for themselves.


I hope I addressed your questions. Even if I did not, I am growing weary of defending myself and my belief system. I wish that I could apologize to you.

Floyd Brown wrote:
Could it be that how you look at seeing that some one who has less than you gets a little from you & is helped & good comes of that help?

Can I suggest that if we could see that every one in need had a little more, that more good would come of it?

Now what if our economic system truly worked on seeing that every one was a part of the system & didn't need gifts from others?
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Mar 15, 2014 10:11:31   #
Patty wrote:
Looks like you are a well disciplined leader type and loyal till the end. Ginny
Im an ISTP. Oh great a German General. "Erwin Rommel

World War II general"

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As well as you!
ISTP strengths
•usually very sk**lful with physical stuff (sports, operating vehicles, machines, using tools)
•good listeners
• like to figure things out by themselves
• usually easy going, optimistic and fun to be around
• observant (constantly gather tons of details about the environment and process them)
• generally good at problem solving and coming up with solutions on the spot
• not afraid to try new things
• independent and determined
• able to stay calm in crisis situations (because of this many ISTPs end up as firefighters, detectives, ambulance drivers, in rescue teams…)
• usually quite self-confident
• as introverts they don’t have trouble respecting other’s needs for privacy or alone time
• don’t run away from conflict or criticism
• able to dole out discipline although they’re not interested in doing so
• practical and have a good grip on reality and what’s going on around them
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Mar 15, 2014 10:02:34   #
blackness wrote:
True! So let's see i don't own any s***es, I'm not getting rich off of sweat of other's, my family is in the quote biracial category I'm intelligent, have a smart attractive wife, my children are well the and balanced. I can juggle many things at once I'm thinking I'm more like President Obama.

Welcome to OPP. I think you would have gotten more feedback if you had put this under "Introduce Yourself" area of OPP. Anyway, welcome again. I hope you enjoy yourself. I am sure that Obama is adept at multitasking, such as playing golf while hyping his failed medical plan. But, if that is your role model, who am I to encourage you to behave like a sane individual.
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Mar 15, 2014 03:02:46   #
Has anyone taken the other tests? It seems that I am an ISTJ person. I really like this site, thank you Patty!

Patty wrote:
http://www.celebritytypes.com/big-five/test.php

I was
James Madison

"A standing military force, with an overgrown Executive, will not long be safe companions to liberty."
I don't know how accurate this is since it states I prefer military intervention in foreign affairs though.
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Mar 15, 2014 02:24:53   #
Very often we use such stories to convey a point. The point of this, the rich man will not miss any funds he gives to another, but our Father takes notice. Giving is an important part of our lives. We find that the more we give, the more we have. It is strange that way. I remember a time when my husband and I were saving pennies in a jar for the poor, we had an issue come up and my husband suggested we cash in the jar and use that money. I refused, the next day I got a promotion. It always works out that way. I give someone the last penny that I have in my pocket, but I never seem to be broke. But, I give not because it is expected, but because someone needs it more than I. God will provide if we put all of our trust in him. No, I never pray for money because God is not a penny bank. But.....what can I say.

Armageddun wrote:
Isa. 40:2

I have heard that giving the double was a charitable act sometime done by a rich man for a poor man who satt by the gate. The poor man would tack a note saying what all his debts were. And if a kind rich man was in a charitable mood he would fold the note and cover it and would pay the poor mans bills.

I'm not sure this is the exact scripture I'm looking for It seems like the scripture says, "The Lord will give either Israel or Jerusalem the double for her sins."
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Mar 15, 2014 02:15:24   #
Brian Devon wrote:
Did you expect that the Negros would just step in line? Many of them are exceptionally bright and they figure out what is good or bad for our country.

That's quite white and charitable of you Ginny. You should get a plaque in the right wing Jewish Hall of Fame along with Michael Savage, Michael Medved, John Podhoretz, and David Horowitz, as well as Elliott Abrams, Bill Kristol, Sheldon Adelson, and Ari Fleischer.

BTW, 75% of U.S. Jews v**ed for Barack Obama. It has something to do with the idea that Jews do better in societies in which no one is degraded nor marginalized because of their race or ancestry.
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The first part, I will not dignify. The last (BTW) issue, your information may be correct for California, but it is different elsewhere. A piece in The Jewish Daily Forward argues that these trends are changing and quickly, especially in New York where 2.5 million Jews call home. Orthodox and Russian-speaking Jews already make up 56 percent of the city’s Jewish population. They’ll be a larger majority in the future. Few of these Jews are liberals, and many are not even Democrats. So the unified Jewish v**e that was thought to be a pillar of New York politics looks like it’s breaking up. No, I will not give you the link....do some work for yourself. I gave you the source...
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Mar 15, 2014 02:08:41   #
fom wrote:
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You agree with him and give him thumbs up for insults. Nice. Well, at least one good thing has come from this, a leopard does not change their spots. I wish you well, but I have no intentions of having any in-depth conversations now. I will respond to you the way I do to your buddy, Brian.
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Mar 15, 2014 00:11:00   #
fom wrote:
This has been interesting and insightful. I encourage others to discuss this amongst themselves. please keep it civil as for the most part it has. Thank you all for your input and enjoy your time here.

WOW. Now this is rude. You start a conversation and then excuse yourself? What can you not answer the hard questions?
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