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Apr 26, 2014 01:04:14   #
OF COURSE YOU ARE RIGHT, YOU ARE ALWAYS RIGHT. YOUR VIEW IS THE ONLY VIEW.

rumitoid wrote:
ginnyt, misquoting my entire point does not fall in the realm of opinion or observation; it falls in the realm of mistake, where people usually say, "Oops, my bad" and move on. I said what you wrote was very interesting except for misrepresenting what I said. I didn't demonize you.
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Apr 25, 2014 23:45:53   #
I love people, well most people. There are some that no matter how I approach them, they will argue about everything. If I say the sky is blue, they say it is not. If I should say the world is round, even though they know better, they will say it is not.... This makes me wonder, are people prewired to fight? I think that our minds are pre-wired to believe that we are doing or saying the correct thing. People are born to think that they are right in wh**ever they choose to say or do. This tendency is colloquially termed as “p***e.” Obviously though, we are not always right about everything and there will always be one who contends our thesis. Naturally, p***e takes over and prevents us from admitting that we have been mistaken, even if we realize that we really are. As a result, a conflict arises among these two individuals who have different beliefs and thoughts about a subject but wherein both cannot accept that the other one is correct. Even on OPP, no one will give an inch; no one wants to admit that their view may be flawed.

http://www.terrapsych.com/whywefight.html
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Apr 25, 2014 23:29:18   #
Excuse my ignorance! OF COURSE YOU ARE RIGHT, YOU ARE ALWAYS RIGHT AND THERE IS NO ROOM FOR ANYONE'S OPINIONS OR OBSERVATIONS.


rumitoid wrote:
The title of the thread is "Can anybody see clearly?" I never said anything about stretching or expanding a black hole; I said expand a wormhole: black hole and wormhole are not interchangeable. And neither are expand and stret
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Apr 25, 2014 22:33:56   #
Forgive me for interchanging words. I see little difference in stretching and expanding. To me, the two are just different words to imperfectly describe the true behavior (which is only properly described mathematically) of the phenomenon.

For a better, more refined, information on back holes and travel; see: http://www.deepastronomy.com/travel-to-black-holes.html

rumitoid wrote:
I said scientists believe that could expand (not stretch) a wormhole, I did not say stretch a black hole, but otherwise very interesting
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Apr 25, 2014 21:53:51   #
The only way for this to work is using the new theory of hybrid singularity. Whereas if you traveled through a space time singularity, not only would your ship but you would be reduced to a spread of atoms. However, "Cauchy horizon singularity," it would impart only finite tidal distortions on extended objects.

The kinder, gentler singularity should only develop when a regular stream of matter or energy falls into the hole.

Previous analyses have considered only streams that were brief bursts. But long-duration "non-compact" streams of radiation, like the cosmic microwave background, can also fall into the black hole.

As for "stretching a black hole to accommodate a space ship, that is highly unlikely. In order to accomplish this, you would have to exert more force than the imploding event horizon. Then there is the problem of maintaining the enlarged black hole for what would be an indefinite time span due to time slowing to an almost stagnant interval. That then would introduce a new problem with the affects that an expanded black hole, which would put significant pull on our solar system as to crush and suck the sun and planets out of orbit and into the hole. Therefore, the event horizon would need to be created at such a significant distance from inhabited (even with primitive life forms) so as not to cause a space vacuum. Ergo, the probability of traveling via a worm hole in the foreseeable future is small.

Loki, in your pocket at this moment you have 3 quarters, 5 nickels, 1 dime and 4 pennies. Tell me how close I am.

rumitoid wrote:
There are billions of wormholes all around at about an atom's width. Scientist believe there are ways to expand these to fit a man of even a ship. But there is so much energy a feedback loop starts and quickly grows in intensity, k*****g anyone who dared enter. So, cross that off.

But we could slingshot ourselves off a black hole. The closer a person is to a large mass, time slows, while we are rocketing around the blackhole time will get every slower and when we finally reach near-light speed, off we go the outward push of that speed deflecting all objects.
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Apr 25, 2014 19:01:58   #
As I said, I will practice what I preach and because I do not have anything nice to say, I will excuse myself and not say anything.

Loki wrote:
Rumitoid has made some good points. Other than his susceptability to the Liberal BOHICA that is sometimes inaccurately termed "KoolAid."
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Apr 25, 2014 18:57:19   #
Correction, should have read "there" vice "their."

ginnyt wrote:
Yes, you are quite right. I was once pickpocketed while in Europe, I could not feel the thief as they took my watch and my wallet. Funny how slick they can be. Liberals are almost as quick, but I am older now and pay closer attention. I can see through their guise of "helping" and government run programs for what they are. Soon their will be no more pockets for them to pick; then what?
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Apr 25, 2014 18:55:26   #
That is all that you find objectionable? I could say more, but I will use my better judgment and keep silent.

Loki wrote:
"This, however, does not include me, as I rightly know everything." I was conducting a valid experiment as to the veracity of your statement. If you truly knew everything, you could have told me the exact amount of change I had in my pocket at that exact time. The only thing I find objectionable about your postings is your naive belief in the innate goodness and benevolence of government, in spite of all the contradictory evidence.
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Apr 25, 2014 18:36:27   #
Loki wrote:
You do not wish to know the real definition of "Trust me" in Liberalspeak. YOU can trust ME on that one.


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Apr 25, 2014 18:26:59   #
I do not know the name of the doctor, however the "spin doctor" that sold the idea that a******n was the sophisticated and intellectual alternative was Nathanson who has admitted that he and others made up a significant portion of the data used by new producers. Nathanson today admits he and his a******n colleagues lied left and right. What’s the most powerful a******n marketing slogan of all? “Women are dying.” It just seems to trump all other points. In the years before Roe v. Wade, we always heard that 5,000 to 10,000 women were dying every year in the U.S. from illegal, botched a******ns. This is what Nathanson and his a******n marketer cohorts were claiming. But it wasn’t true – not even close – and they knew it.

Do you know how many women actually died from illegal, botched a******ns in 1972, the last full year before Roe v. Wade? According to the Centers for Disease Control, it wasn’t 5,000 or 10,000, it wasn’t even 1,000 – it was 39. Thirty-nine!

Quoted from CDC: "Deaths of women associated with complications from a******ns for 2009 are being investigated under CDC's Pregnancy Mortality Surveillance System. In 2008, the most recent year for which data were available, 12 women were reported to have died as a result of complications from known legal induced a******ns. No reported deaths were associated with known illegal induced a******ns."

Indeed, if you look at the ruling, it is based on the right of privacy not on what is or is not medically sound.
Constitutional libertarian wrote:
I wish I could remember the name of the doctor that testified in row vs wade. Who later admitted to lying to the court about how many back alley a******ns really were occurring. Then many many years later after making a film of one of his a******ns and watching the fetus desperately trying to get away from the instrument of its death finally realized what a horrible thing it was he was doing and never did another one again the rest of his life.

I'm sorry Bo, but murder is murder no mater how young the victim my be.
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Apr 25, 2014 16:44:22   #
Thank you Bo, I can not speak for everyone but only for myself, I do not see an a******n as a means of contraceptive. My mother, a very strict and straight laced woman that viewed sex outside of marriage as wrong, also had practical sense. When I was 11 she sat me down and had the sex talk. Then at 15 she once again had the talk with me, this time she went into detail on how to prevent pregnancy. The next year I went off to college, she promptly took me to our family doctor and he gave me a prescription for birth control pills. Being a book worm and rather shy, I did not have a need for the prescription....needless to say, I was "unspoiled" when I married. But, my point is that mothers must discuss sex with their daughters and fathers must talk with their sons. If this is not comfortable for them, then they do not have an open relationship with their child; of course I could say more on that. However, a doctor would be a great substitute.

Self induced a******ns are very risky. Many times they are not complete, the girl/woman run the risk of infections and so on. I share your concern for those that resort to such measures. I would rather see a child placed for adoption if pregnancy occurs, but you and I know that society is so conditioned to believe that a******n is contraceptive measure that some will attempt to abort babies with drugs, sharp objects, and so on.


BoJester wrote:
Ginny, I agree about the "ounce of prevention", and am puzzled why the religiousconservatives are so opposed to contraception. One has to be preferable to the other by almost all rational and sane people who are capable of thinking.

Self-induced a******n, while not new, may become much more problematic is more states follow Texas
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Apr 25, 2014 15:56:00   #
Hello Bo,

I am sure that there will still, as there have always been even with the legalization and support that a******n clinics enjoy, a number of home style a******ns. In particular in areas such as where this girl lives. I am for education on pregnancy prevention and that takes dedicated and loving parents. I am sure you were also taught, a ounce of prevention is worth more than a pound of cure.

Thank you for the link. I found it insightful.

BoJester wrote:
Yep, the so-called "pro-life" anti-legal-a******n crowd, will soon be happy to have the fools at fnc report on the increasing number of young women who are self-inducing a******ns. Some will likely die if they are unable to seek medical treatment if necessary.

Wonder if all of the silly people will change their tune if their daughter or grand-daughter becomes one of the victims of stupidly self-righteous.


http://america.aljazeera.com/watch/shows/fault-lines/2014/4/one-woman-self-inducesana******nasnewtexasa******nlawstakeeffect.html
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Apr 25, 2014 12:27:29   #
Fleas or lice....both make you itchy and uncomfortable. Reminds me of the feeling you get when a Liberal says "trust me, we are doing this because we have your best interest at heart."

Loki wrote:
Fleas off each other?
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Apr 25, 2014 11:10:07   #
Yes, you are quite right. I was once pickpocketed while in Europe, I could not feel the thief as they took my watch and my wallet. Funny how slick they can be. Liberals are almost as quick, but I am older now and pay closer attention. I can see through their guise of "helping" and government run programs for what they are. Soon their will be no more pockets for them to pick; then what?


Winter Solstice wrote:
As most liberals, he is also trying to find a way into your pocket and spend your "change" too.
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Apr 25, 2014 07:57:58   #
As most liberals, he probably does know and has plans on how to spend it~!!

Loki wrote:
How much change is in my pocket at this moment?


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