God vs EVILution... (Page 70): So Zeus was real and Sol was real. A belief in a myth, even if by a majority, does render it real. Sorry my friend but one confused person teaching...

PeterS

larry wrote:

What makes you think that what you refuse to acknowledge is not real? Do you honestly believe that knowledge and historical writings over centuries was all made up by confused people? Isn't concurrence of thought by isolated thinkers over centuries considered reality? Surely there must be some truth in it if holds the same message over time.

So Zeus was real and Sol was real. A belief in a myth, even if by a majority, does render it real. Sorry my friend but one confused person teaching mythology to another person only leaves two confused people not a god. But nice try....

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Your objection seems to be that you did not think of it yourself, or find a significant viewpoint in other writings that are not as well documented. Why is that?
Why would you put more faith in isolated writings that have no real following than in those that have many coordinated teachings that have an unprecedented yet historical reliability?

Why would I object to something because I didn't think of it and are you asking why I would place more faith in Science than Mythology? Well think about it. Take away the Theory of Relativity and someone, even without knowing anything about it, can still replicate it using scientific method. Take away the Bible and for someone who never knew it--it is forever gone. Science allows for anyone to verify it. Mythology can never be verified only believed and take away the myth and it is gone....

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Even science in its quest to disavow the history has been strangely forced to acknowledge the historical facts of the scriptures. What more do you want? If you have more faith in those strange but spurious writings, where does that come from?

? 1) why would science seek to disavow scripture? 2) How has science been forced to acknowledge the historical "facts" of scriptures and why does that matter?

Scripture, in and of itself, proves nothing so what is there for science to disavow? If we were to find 10 commandments written in stone would that be a proof of god or a proof that someone, at some point, wrote 10 commandments in stone? As for what I want? I want facts not conjecture. I want truth not mythology. That's all...

Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ

PeterS wrote:

? 1) why would science seek to disavow scripture? ... (show quote)

When I brought up mythology, I was not relating to the myth itself. I was looking at the genealogy that the ancient Greeks left behind, and comparing that to the historical genealogy of what the Jews left behind.

For example. There is in the theory of Evolution, evidence of Cro Magnon Man coexisting with modern man, do we agree?

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For the creation of a new species all that is required is an original kind, male and female.

Darwins birds were still birds.

For Darwin to prove evolution, the birds would have to become a new KIND. There is absolutely no evidence of that ever happening. Evolution must be accepted by faith therefore it is not science but rather it is a religion.

there is more than enough scientific evidence to disprove evolution.

Alicia Loc: NYC

bdamage wrote:

I noticed you didn't mention Muslims.......convert or stretch that neck for the sword.
You must be a leftist sympathizer......like Jim Foley. He didn't fair so well.

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OK. I'll include Muslims. Does that please you now?

bdamage Loc: My Bunker

adprofits wrote:

For the creation of a new species all that is required is an original kind, male and female.

Darwins birds were still birds.

For Darwin to prove evolution, the birds would have to become a new KIND. There is absolutely no evidence of that ever happening. Evolution must be accepted by faith therefore it is not science but rather it is a religion.

there is more than enough scientific evidence to disprove evolution.

Indeed.....but there are those on here that do not believe in "faith", yet have "faith" in evolution.
Go figure.

bdamage Loc: My Bunker

Alicia wrote:

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OK. I'll include Muslims. Does that please you now?

Too late.....I believe you "left" them out on purpose.
Pun intended.

Alicia Loc: NYC

adprofits wrote:

For the creation of a new species all that is required is an original kind, male and female.

Darwins birds were still birds.

For Darwin to prove evolution, the birds would have to become a new KIND. There is absolutely no evidence of that ever happening. Evolution must be accepted by faith therefore it is not science but rather it is a religion.

there is more than enough scientific evidence to disprove evolution.

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I must disagree with you here. The process of adaptation IS evolution. Once the adaptation takes place, their progeny continue with the change(s). They may be the same species but they are no longer the same creature.

Why do you insist that a reptile MUST become a bird? Isn't it enough that reptiles do evolve through adapation? Here are your missing links since you seem to need them so much! You don't hear of a boa reproducing with an asp even though they both belong to the snake family.

Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ

adprofits wrote:

For the creation of a new species all that is required is an original kind, male and female.

Darwins birds were still birds.

For Darwin to prove evolution, the birds would have to become a new KIND. There is absolutely no evidence of that ever happening. Evolution must be accepted by faith therefore it is not science but rather it is a religion.

there is more than enough scientific evidence to disprove evolution.

Evolution: the process in which a species changes. Hmm, so no species changes in time? That is kind of far fetched when you consider logic.

Alicia Loc: NYC

bdamage wrote:

"That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God."

1 Corinthians 2:5

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Again! Chapter and verse. Don't you have sufficient vocabulary to speak for yourself instead of doing a cut and paste job? This just proves that you are one of the many who's head hurts when forced to think.

bdamage Loc: My Bunker

Ranger7374 wrote:

Evolution: the process in which a species changes. Hmm, so no species changes in time? That is kind of far fetched when you consider logic.

He said "change of KIND" which the evolutionists believe happened over millions if not billions of years.
Such as.....we evolved from apes....how ludicrous is that?

Alicia Loc: NYC

PeterS wrote:

I see you are condescending no matter with whom or... (show quote)

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Thanks. I especially approve of your "bolding" the word RATHER.

Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ

bdamage wrote:

He said "change of KIND" which the evolutionists believe happened over millions if not billions of years.
Such as.....we evolved from apes....how ludicrous is that?

I can explain this. Just give me a moment looking for common ground here. Evolution is the natural process in which a species changes. Let me get the full definition,

1.the process by which different kinds of living organisms are thought to have developed and diversified from earlier forms during the history of the earth.

2. the gradual development of something, especially from a simple to a more complex form.

Now can we agree before I prove Darwin Half right/ and prove him half wrong.

bdamage Loc: My Bunker

Alicia wrote:

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Again! Chapter and verse. Don't you have sufficient vocabulary to speak for yourself instead of doing a cut and paste job? This just proves that you are one of the many who's head hurts when forced to think.

All of us, including you Alicia, will be before the One on judgment day.....only some of us are preparing our hearts for that moment and we would like you to do the same.
But, we will NEVER force it on you....it's all up to the individual to decide if they want a relationship with our Maker.
No worries.....my job is never to condemn those who refuse to believe, but merely to give those the Good news.
It's as simple as that.
Bob Dylan wrote a song...."whether it be the Devil, or whether it be the Lord, you've GOT to serve somebody...."

bdamage Loc: My Bunker

Ranger7374 wrote:

I can explain this. Just give me a moment looking ... (show quote)

I don't have any qualms with Darwin......it's those who have distorted his theory and have been teaching this to kids in schools without any proof of any "change of KIND".
I have zero problem with "adaptation" whatsoever.

Alicia Loc: NYC

larry wrote:

Wrong again, Faith is the epitome of thinking. When the subject is beyond comprehension by natural means yet still exists, it is by faith we acknowledge our lack of knowledge. And yet because it is there, we search for a reasonable answer. The problem is, that when we can't find a reasonable answer, we make something up and use that as a foundation. that takes more faith than knowledge.

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That faith comes about through fear. If man can't understand it, it must be true that there is a super being that is the answer. Man doesn't like not having all the answers. That is the purpose of science which, at least, realizes we don't have all the solutions - YET! Science is satisfied in locating the "next step" even though it "might" be contrary to the last. No one in science believes they have ALL the answers. They don't have that conceit!