No I am not wrong that the lies told of NATO not expanding into Ukraine as being the EXACT reason for this war!! I find it totally amazing that you would even state that!! You make it abundantly clear you have no knowledge of history or even the fact that there was peace between Russia and Ukraine before the globalist intervention in 2014 that destroyed that peace!! If Putin wanted to expand into Ukraine he would have done long before this war even started!! He`s always had the means to do so but he did not!! You even deny the fact that this is a war instigated by globalists and their globalist puppet Zelenski!! No Putin did not use these lies as an excuse - he used them as verifiable facts!

Manning5Me


On a side note, you mentioned you were a chess player. Love the game myself, but my life never got me into situations where I could spend a lot of time on the game. You'd probably kick my ass at Chess. But I did start collecting Chess sets at one time. Saw one at a street fair that I really loved. All ivory. Back around 1980. Paid $1800 for it. So you know it is a real class set. And no, I am not for the killing of elephants. Many sets in the $50 to $200 dollar range. Often found traveling around the world. I also ran into an artist, sculptor, clay models, and he had a chess set. All characters different and modeled after the Lord of the Rings. About 5 to 10 inch high pieces and monsters, etc. You can look up the artist on the Internet. Deceased. Mike Makrus. If you ever came through Chicago, I'd love to meet you for a game or two on my best sets and let you kick my ass at chess. I would love that lesson.

Cheers. LR

They are a cabal of powerful families that want to rule the world and have total control over mankind!! They include the Rothschilds, the Rockefellers, the Sinclairs, the Bundys - the Astors - the DuPonts - just to name a few! They belong to secret societies like the Masons - skull and bones - the illuminati - the Shriners and so on. They bribe, intimidate, blackmail or outright kill those who oppose their plans for world domination and their New World Order plans!! They foment wars between their targets fund both sides and let them both fight to exhaustion for easier take over. One of their mottos is 'Order out of Chaos' create the chaos and then step in with THEIR order. They infiltrate groups opposed to their plans to destroy those groups and one of their biggest targets are Christian groups!! They are like locusts destroying everything in their path and have all the money to pay people to advance their goals because they are very aware of man`s weakness for riches.

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A great post in counter to mine that few have read and fewer understood, I guess. No matter.

I remain convinced that the following are true:
1. Russia is not the sweetness and light country some depict. The conduct of their troops in this and prior wars is abominable. They show no regard for Ukraine citizens by missiling them for two years. I believe they would massacre a million Ukraine citizens given the chance.

2. Russia is an imperialistic nation, and it is expansionist by definition, a faith that Putin has shown continually in Russia. I believe he wants to expand the borders to the old Soviet extent and is willing to use nuclear threats to gobble the Balkans up one by one.

3. The US will be unwilling to start a nuclear war to save either Estonia or Latvia, or Lithuania.

4. It is time to cut off considering the who-shot-John events of the past and over-thinking the problem, over blaming, over crediting, etc. Russia invaded the Ukraine and also took the Crimea from a sovereign nation.

5. NATO nations see this more the way I do, and are ramping up to help. They do not want the Bear to go any further into Europe, and they believe Putin would.

6.NATO and the US are about 18 months away from having armament production and rearming themselves. peaking, The Ukraine needs to be sustained for that period. They need all the weapons and munitions to help.

7. I believe Russia plans to attack in the Baltic, all NATO nations, We will not be able to defend them. But we can derail it by fighting in Ukraine to win using Ukraine troops. With our help, the grinder can be reversed, putting Russian back into its cage, and saving the citizens of Ukraine, and the Balkans.

8. Corruption in Ukraine can either be minimized or not. We have the leverage to do a lot to stop it if we want. Z can have his yacht sold and the funds recovered or sunk, his choice.

This posture of mine will not prevail, it seems clear, I believe mainly because of: 1. the killing; and 2, the belief that Russia has become a benign citizen of the world, despite its track record of 14 wars/interventions/etc. since 1945, and 9 of which are Putin wars, some still in progress.
I believe even more killing will ensue from a Russian victory, the Balkans will be next, with more killing, and we need to worry about Poland. It is a domino pact we face, and it ought to be stopped now in Ukraine.

An aside: Over 80,000 captive German soldiers were sent to Russia in 1944-45. They haven't been heard from since.

I have a busy other life, but I will get back to you on all that you posted. And I do take your comments into consideration for my future analysis as I see things. You've brought out some good points. I do appreciate your work in Europe and for NATO in the past. But that was against the USSR and vital at the time. But the USSR no longer exists. Back in those days we were worried about the domino affect of Communism trying to conquer the world. IMO. What is a prime issue of what Russia is worried about is the new domino affect, the movement of European countries into NATO, and it's implied aggression against Russia within Europe and the subsequent controls against Russian access to the seas to their west and southwest and south access for trade and commerce. I will get back and I appreciate your thoughtful analysis.

Logically Right

After my dinner, I just had a few thoughts. Conditions:
1.Nuclear war must be off the table: an exchange even at the tactical level, will escalate to full destruction of both nations. Threats must not enter the room! We cannot negotiate with this threat hanging over the proceedings
2. This concerns the Balkan nations too, so they must be included to their satisfaction.
3. Major support to the Ukraine must commence immediately, and with really top war material.
4. The fighting must stop.
5. We must speak with one voice, a NATO voice.
6. The Ukraine must accept the NATO lead, however it goes.
7. There should be an impartial moderator for the meeting.
8. There must be an agreed decision agenda point by point in advance by all parties. We meet ahead of time with appointees to create this agenda in advance.
9.The next meeting then is to discuss then ratify or not the decisions one by one. If acceptable to all at the end, it is up to the respective government representatives to review and sign off.

The Decision Agenda is key. I am not a diplomat, and my take on this may sound weird. It should cover: Cease fire; Prisoner exchange; Demarcation lines and Disengagement between forces; the fate of territories; Free Access to Seaways; Reconstruction of Ukraine; Reparations; Schedule of Events;
non-aggression guarantees between all concerned parties; Safety Considerations;
Relocation of Citizenry; Citizen's Rights; Handling Casualties and the Deceased; Right of Access to Territories ?; More as identified.