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Jan 14, 2024 05:03:24   #
pescado rojo
 
straightUp wrote:
I'm so sick and tired of the conservative jihad forcing schools to report the sexual dysphoria that some students are experiencing to their parents. Good parents don't need schools to inform them about such personal issues because good parents will get that information from the children directly. This is because good parents take the time and effort to understand their children AND foster communication and trust.

If a student is keeping his dysphoria secret from his parents it means his parents are either too aloof to notice it themselves and/or they failed to create that sense of trust. In other words, they are sh!tty parents. It happens sometimes and so do the beatings that children get from bad parents for not conforming. All the more reason why schools should NOT report such issues to parents and instead offer the trust that some students don't have with parents who happen to be dicks.
I'm so sick and tired of the conservative jihad fo... (show quote)


Madre de Dios. I actually agree with you in part; about some parents. The flaw lies in schools and adults who think that someone who is not old enough to vote, drive, see certain movies, own real estate, get a pilot's license, or rent a place to live is old enough to decide their gender when they are confused. The answer is not to support the child without question. The answer is to give the child support while they muddle through on their own as much as possible. No child should be allowed irreversible gender surgery. No child should be allowed to decide this, and no adult should be allowed to decree it.

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Jan 14, 2024 06:12:47   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
straightUp wrote:
I'm so sick and tired of the conservative jihad forcing schools to report the sexual dysphoria that some students are experiencing to their parents. Good parents don't need schools to inform them about such personal issues because good parents will get that information from the children directly. This is because good parents take the time and effort to understand their children AND foster communication and trust.

If a student is keeping his dysphoria secret from his parents it means his parents are either too aloof to notice it themselves and/or they failed to create that sense of trust. In other words, they are sh!tty parents. It happens sometimes and so do the beatings that children get from bad parents for not conforming. All the more reason why schools should NOT report such issues to parents and instead offer the trust that some students don't have with parents who happen to be dicks.
I'm so sick and tired of the conservative jihad fo... (show quote)


your living in a rosey world schools encourage kids to hide their disforia by telling them mommy and daddy wont love you anymore if they know. They also have been known to put kids they have problems with on antidepresants

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Jan 14, 2024 07:44:48   #
American Vet
 
straightUp wrote:

Ah... well, I will admit to being more left-leaning than you probably are but I'm far from extreme. But I understand how uptighty righties think everything to their left is extreme. They are after all the drama queens of the modern era.
And I understand how weak-minded lefties believe they are just a tad smarter than anyone who disagrees with them.

It may be generalized but so is any context on which policies are set. You don't write laws against stealing because everyone is a thief - you write them because you have to assume that *some* people are. In this case, if a student doesn't want his parents to know about his sexual dysphoria, the school should consider the high probability that the parents are assholes.
And the schools still do not have the right (and should not have the right) to keep pertinent information from parents. Keep in mind ELWNJs tend to think anyone who disagrees with them is an a**.

Just out of curiosity, what possible scenario can you describe where a student is too scared to tell his own parents about his feelings and yet the parents can't be blamed for the lack of trust?
The child ASSUMES the parents will react negatively.

Sorry, if I don't have the patience to make excuses for bad parenting
Is it ‘bad parenting’ when a child abuses drugs?

And if schools are going to err, I think it's better that they err on the side of a students safety rather than the bigotry of f.cked up parents.
And you are assuming that your “high probability” is just that – though nothing to substantiate that belief.

Says who? The people who brainwashed you?
Common sense. Try using it sometime.

Leftists believe in the freedom to be who you are.
As do Conservatives. But ‘being who you are’ does not include going to the bathroom with girls. Nor showering with them. Nor competing against them in women’s sports. Nor forcing others to use ‘desired pronouns’.

Since conservatives have a serious problem with personal freedom they interpret that as enabling problems.
See above regarding bathrooms.

Sometimes good things happen. ;)
And often bad things happen when people cave in to pressure from vocal minorities.

Yes, those were the tyrannical cultures of fear and cruelty not the cultures of freedom. Is that what you want? Fear and cruelty?
The left is a culture of tyranny – not of freedom. And I do not want that.


Sounds like your generalizing... Can you say, hypocrite?
Sounds like you have a reading comprehension problem. I didn’t generalize – I stated quite clearly “I wouldn't be surprised if you made those same type of broad generalizations”. That’s simply stating my opinion – nothing hypocritical there.

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Jan 14, 2024 09:11:22   #
Big dog
 
straightUp wrote:
I'm so sick and tired of the conservative jihad forcing schools to report the sexual dysphoria that some students are experiencing to their parents. Good parents don't need schools to inform them about such personal issues because good parents will get that information from the children directly. This is because good parents take the time and effort to understand their children AND foster communication and trust.

If a student is keeping his dysphoria secret from his parents it means his parents are either too aloof to notice it themselves and/or they failed to create that sense of trust. In other words, they are sh!tty parents. It happens sometimes and so do the beatings that children get from bad parents for not conforming. All the more reason why schools should NOT report such issues to parents and instead offer the trust that some students don't have with parents who happen to be dicks.
I'm so sick and tired of the conservative jihad fo... (show quote)


Yeah, keep your California concepts in California.

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Jan 14, 2024 13:26:09   #
pegw
 
Some children's parents just send their kids to school and never give a second thought as to what goes on there. They never even bother to see if their kids are doing their homework. I wonder why these idiot parents ever decided to have children in the first place.

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Jan 14, 2024 17:01:36   #
WEBCO
 
straightUp wrote:
I'm so sick and tired of the conservative jihad forcing schools to report the sexual dysphoria that some students are experiencing to their parents. Good parents don't need schools to inform them about such personal issues because good parents will get that information from the children directly. This is because good parents take the time and effort to understand their children AND foster communication and trust.

If a student is keeping his dysphoria secret from his parents it means his parents are either too aloof to notice it themselves and/or they failed to create that sense of trust. In other words, they are sh!tty parents. It happens sometimes and so do the beatings that children get from bad parents for not conforming. All the more reason why schools should NOT report such issues to parents and instead offer the trust that some students don't have with parents who happen to be dicks.
I'm so sick and tired of the conservative jihad fo... (show quote)


Sorry, but the school employees that keep information from parents need to be fired and charged with child endangerment at the very least. Not surprised you feel this way though...it's the objective of the left to remove parents from THEIR children.

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Jan 14, 2024 17:55:33   #
CounterRevolutionary
 
pegw wrote:
Some children's parents just send their kids to school and never give a second thought as to what goes on there. They never even bother to see if their kids are doing their homework. I wonder why these idiot parents ever decided to have children in the first place.


What you write is true.
But it is a matter of percentages; most families are engaged in their family's wellbeing. We have Child Protective Services for broken families- but we do not put an entire nation on welfare for those who fall through the cracks.

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Jan 15, 2024 03:20:43   #
stephanie wilson Loc: West Chicago, IL
 
straightUp wrote:
I'm so sick and tired of the conservative jihad forcing schools to report the sexual dysphoria that some students are experiencing to their parents. Good parents don't need schools to inform them about such personal issues because good parents will get that information from the children directly. This is because good parents take the time and effort to understand their children AND foster communication and trust.

If a student is keeping his dysphoria secret from his parents it means his parents are either too aloof to notice it themselves and/or they failed to create that sense of trust. In other words, they are sh!tty parents. It happens sometimes and so do the beatings that children get from bad parents for not conforming. All the more reason why schools should NOT report such issues to parents and instead offer the trust that some students don't have with parents who happen to be dicks.
I'm so sick and tired of the conservative jihad fo... (show quote)


Do you have kids? #1. I do & I have a G-d given right to know what's going on w/ him at school! #2. I'm sick of leftists like you claiming otherwise. So stick that in your pipe & smoke it!

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Jan 15, 2024 09:12:33   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
CounterRevolutionary wrote:
Has it ever occurred to anyone on this board that our government is mass medicating the public with female hormones, either through estrogen in birth control pills or oxytocin in prenatal care, or in synthetic estrogen (biphenyl-6) in herbicides, the canning industry and plastics?

Oh, I get full reports on all those conspiracy theories. My bass player is addicted to them. Nice guy but when it comes to politics, he's an idiot. The fact is, the government doesn't control what people put in their bodies. Everything from birth control pills to herbicides is controlled by the private sector. I'm not going to argue about whether or not such products carry estrogen because I don't have the time to do the research (which for me means actually doing research, not just listening to more conspiracy theorists). But the fact that the government isn't responsible for people consuming these products should be obvious to anyone who isn't mentally retarded.

The ONLY thing the government does when it comes to the consumption of ANY products (and this includes the FDA and the USDA) is that it will ban certain items that have been deemed harmful and even then it's always in response to citizen demands for such regulation. But that would PREVENT the consumption of these products, not promote it. The EPA is also an agent of limitations, and has nothing to do with the consumption of the products you describe.

CounterRevolutionary wrote:

Drugging the belligerents into complacency has only backfired; instead, we have raised a crop of disease and drugged zombies. So, to achieve conformity with United Nations policies to pacify the testosterone driven male, our bureaucrats have taken it upon themselves to neuter the nation.

Baseless fantasy.

CounterRevolutionary wrote:

In a standard libtard platform of divide and conquer, you guys are having this idiotic debate over sexual dysphoria of a child with the self-awareness of a tadpole. Sexual orientation is an adult decision for adults.

Actually, it's the conservatives that can't shut up about it. Every single time this becomes an issue, it's because conservatives are getting all upset about people thinking sexual identity is fluid. Liberals like me don't really care. If a man thinks he's a woman inside, WTF cares? It gets back to the freedom to be who you want to be. As a straight male, I'm quite happy with my wife and my personal choices. Why should I care if my neighbor is gay or identifies as the opposite sex? I guess liberals just aren't scared of "kooties" or whatever it is that conservatives are SOOO friken scared of all the time. But the moment you demand the government ban my neighbors lifestyle is the moment I'll get in your face to defend his right to be who he wants to be. And of course your reaction will be to accuse me of "making" him gay... So retarded.

CounterRevolutionary wrote:

Everybody needs testosterone, male and female, to defend the immune system against cancer and other auto-immune diseases.

So, what's the problem? As far as I know estrogen and testosterone are not mutually exclusive. Every human body has both. You just sound really confused.

CounterRevolutionary wrote:

Shut down the damnable FDA. EPA, HHS and USDA, a revolving door of sadistic Frankensteins.

Shut down the regulatory agencies and the private sector will feed you whatever they want. You will have zero control over what companies put in their products.

It blows my mind how so many conservatives can't figure that out.

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Jan 15, 2024 10:01:43   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
I see they let you out of your cage again. How long is your furlough this time?

Those historical cultures of whom you speak were pagans, they practiced all kinds of perversions - homo, tranny, cross dressing, gay prostitution, bestiality, and child sacrifice. The Gay Pride festivals and parades today bear a remarkable similarity to those of the ancient pagans, including much of the symbolism, such as the rainbow.

Yes, most of them were pagan, from the Ancient Greeks to the North American Indians. They were the cultures of freedom that existed before Christians turned people into social slaves. The rule I follow with regard to your list is that people should be allowed to do what they want until it causes harm to others. So child sacrifice is out. But homosexuality or cross dressing isn't hurting anyone. I don't understand it personally, but I don't have to. My concern is freedom, not the personal choices of other people.

Blade_Runner wrote:

What should we do about the liberal morons who allow their children to be exposed and influenced by this kind of wickedness?

Nothing. It get's back to parenting. Personally, I think it's better to let children know about diversity instead of hiding it from them like conservative parents do because they're going to see it eventually anyway and if they spent their childhood being sheltered from it they will lose trust in their parents because hiding children from reality is dishonest.

My wife and I actually talked about this when the kids were young and we agreed that we would love our children unconditionally and that we would be honest with them. As it turns out, our son and daughter are both straight adults now. So I know for a fact that exposing children to diversity won't automatically make them "weird".

So my answer is to love your children unconditionally and be honest with them and stop asking the government to do your parenting for you.

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Jan 15, 2024 10:18:27   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Big dog wrote:
Yeah, keep your California concepts in California.

So, you got a problem with the concept of personal freedom? Is that why you hate California so much because we value personal freedom? Or is it because we make more money and have the strongest economy in the nation. Or is it because we have more democracy than most red states do?

Red state Americans hate California for the same reason people in communist states hate America. They are jealous of our wealth, our power and our freedom.

Go 49ers! ;)

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Jan 15, 2024 10:23:36   #
WEBCO
 
straightUp wrote:
Nothing. It get's back to parenting. Personally, I think it's better to let children know about diversity instead of hiding it from them like conservative parents do because they're going to see it eventually anyway and if they spent their childhood being sheltered from it they will lose trust in their parents because hiding children from reality is dishonest.

My wife and I actually talked about this when the kids were young and we agreed that we would love our children unconditionally and that we would be honest with them. As it turns out, our son and daughter are both straight adults now. So I know for a fact that exposing children to diversity won't automatically make them "weird".

So my answer is to love your children unconditionally and be honest with them and stop asking the government to do your parenting for you.
Nothing. It get's back to parenting. Personally, I... (show quote)


We aren't asking for the government "do parenting" for us, we are asking the government to STOP doing the parenting for us. I'm open and honest with my children and love them unconditionally. I don't want my 7 year old exposed to mentally disturbed people though. It's not the governments job to parent or keep information from parents. It's disturbing that so many people are OK with this.

Did you expose your minor (5-10) children to pornography? If not stop demanding that mine are.

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Jan 15, 2024 10:38:16   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
pegw wrote:
Some children's parents just send their kids to school and never give a second thought as to what goes on there. They never even bother to see if their kids are doing their homework. I wonder why these idiot parents ever decided to have children in the first place.

Me too... My bet is that for many of them it was never planned. They just somehow got pregnant.

I once did a research paper on family values and I compared France to the US. In France family values have pushed the government to protect the right for parents to spend more time with their children. As a result, young parents get longer paternity leaves and families get more vacation time. In contrast, governments in the U.S. hesitate to interfere with business and so there is less provision for time off to spend with family and EVERY SINGLE advocacy for family values is 100% focused on what children are exposed to in the media. I assume that's because the profit margins that all working-class Americans are slaves to, forces parents to spend more time working thereby depending more on TV to babysit their children.

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Jan 15, 2024 10:41:48   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
stephanie wilson wrote:
Do you have kids?

Yes.

stephanie wilson wrote:

#1. I do & I have a G-d given right to know what's going on w/ him at school!

So why not ask them? Is there a reason why you have to depend on schools to tell you? Are your children liars? Or do they just not trust you? (and why can't you spell God?)

stephanie wilson wrote:

#2. I'm sick of leftists like you claiming otherwise. So stick that in your pipe & smoke it!

If you can't handle the truth, log off.

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Jan 15, 2024 10:53:59   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
WEBCO wrote:
Sorry, but the school employees that keep information from parents need to be fired and charged with child endangerment at the very least.

Not when it comes to sexual dysphoria which is not itself an endangerment. But a lot of children with sexual dysphoria have bad parents who could and will hurt them. In these cases, it's the school that informs the parents that would be endangering the child.

WEBCO wrote:

Not surprised you feel this way though...it's the objective of the left to remove parents from THEIR children.

See my last post where I mentioned the difference between France and the U.S. in terms of family values. I don't think either side of the culture war intends to remove parents from their children but that DOES appears to be the effect of conservative culture.

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