straightUp Loc: California

Sounds like a personal problem.

straightUp Loc: California

Let me ask you something genius... If a teacher is already obligated by law to report the danger (of sexual dysphoria) to the government why are Republicans pushing for NEW laws to MAKE it mandatory?


Now you're sounding like a p*******e.


LOL - It's the "required by law" (government regulation) part that I am pointing out as being hypocritical when at the same time you say government should stay out of parenting. I already pointed out my solution - be a better parent as in, government not needed. But this conservatives campaign that you are defending, is actually demanding that the government step in. Sorry, were you trying to have your cake and eat it too?


Really? That is SO conservative culture... No problems? OK, let's make some up!

So according to your "logic", children should not be discouraged from talking to strangers because it's not our job to evaluate them... Got it.

BTW, if a child a scared of his own parents that should be an obvious clue to teacher that the parents are questionable.


You just literally said that parents have a right to know if a child has a problem if there is no danger. Is that what you meant to say or are you just continuing to struggle with the English language?

I'll assume you mean parents have a right to know if a child is having a problem if there IS a danger... and yes, I would agree with that. But the new laws that the Republicans are pushing for is specifically to include sexual dysphoria in the long list of "dangerous problems" that need to be reported and the fact is sexual dysphoria is somewhat rare, but that doesn't mean it's a problem.

Conservatives just get really freaked out about people who don't fit the norm and so they MAKE it a problem. They make the child feel like a defect then put them through all kinds of crap that never really changes them, it just forces them into the closet where all the other conservatives with sexual dysphoria are hiding.


You mean it's simple-minded enough for a conservative to understand. LOL

But seriously, you have avoided the point I made about bad parents. Your only comment is that it's not the job of the teacher to evaluate parents. That's gotta be the most i***tic response possible.
"Does the child want his parents to know?"
"No."
"Why not?"
"Dunno, don't care - it's not our job to evaluate the parents"

When an adoption agency considers candidates for adopting a child, what do they do? They evaluate them... for what SHOULD be obvious reasons. And here you are in your fever to defend anything conservative, saying that children should be forcefully exposed to parents without any regard for how parent might react because it's not their job to evaluate the parents.

Why can't the teacher simply question the child?
"Do your parents know? They don't? Do you want them to know? Why not?"
Maybe that's a job for the school councilor but either way, there is a good reason to pay attention to how the child reacts.

You don't seem to have much respect for children.

EmilyD

If it’s a personal problem, several on here have it.

…there is a perfect solution…and you are the only one who can solve it…

..

straightUp Loc: California

And?


Really? I'm the only one who can solve the solution?

American Vet

[quote=straightUp]American Vet wrote: It is not for the teacher to determine if the reporting is a danger to the child. If a teacher thinks the child is 'in danger', there are avenues that require it to be reported. A teacher is obligated by law to report the 'danger' to (typically) local children's services. What part of that do YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?
Let me ask you something genius... If a teacher is already obligated by law to report the danger (of sexual dysphoria) to the government why are Republicans pushing for NEW laws to MAKE it mandatory?
I am not aware of any new laws regarding this. However, there may be a need to strengthen the current laws (l*****t are notorious for skirting the law). Cite you examples.

American Vet wrote: They are children - not adults. Not all 'human beings' have a right to privacy.
Now you're sounding like a p*******e.
Poor attempt at diversion.

American Vet wrote: No hypocrisy there. I am simply pointing out what a teacher IS REQUIRED BY LAW to report.
LOL - It's the required by law (government regulation) part that I am pointing out as being hypocritical when at the same time you say government should stay out of parenting.
Rational people do not believe that reporting a problem is telling parents how to address the problem.

I already pointed out my solution - be a better parent as in, government not needed. But this conservatives campaign that you are defending, is actually demanding that the government step in. Sorry, were you trying to have your cake and eat it too?
As noted above. You are basing your comment on a false presumption.

American Vet wrote: If there is 'no danger', then absolutely the teacher needs to let the parents know there is a problem.[/b]
Really? That is SO conservative culture... No problems? OK, let's make some up!
A child with a psychiatric disorder is a problem. Sad that you do not recognize that.

American Vet wrote: Again - it is not the teacher (or schools) job to evaluate the parents.
So according to your "logic", children should not be discouraged from talking to strangers because it's not our job to evaluate them... Got it.
Strawman comment.

BTW, if a child a scared of his own parents that should be an obvious clue to teacher that the parents are questionable.
And if the teacher is concerned about the child’s safety – then it should be reported – as I have pointed out several times. And because a child “says” they are scared of their parents does not mean that the parents are “questionable”.

You just literally said that parents have a right to know if a child has a problem if there is no danger. Is that what you meant to say or are you just continuing to struggle with the English language?
It appears that YOU are the one having comprehension problems. I do not know how to make it more simple – perhaps someone can help you.

I'll assume you mean parents have a right to know if a child is having a problem if there IS a danger.
And your assumption might be wrong. If the teacher suspects the parent are the danger – then the protocols already there for reporting/protecting the child are in place. If a child comes to class bloody and bruised, stating their mother beat them, obviously the teacher would not call the parent.

the new laws that the Republicans are pushing for is specifically to include sexual dysphoria in the long list of "dangerous problems" that need to be reported and the fact is sexual dysphoria is somewhat rare, but that doesn't mean it's a problem.
Any psychiatric issue is a problem. Sad that you fail to understand that.

Conservatives just get really freaked out about people who don't fit the norm and so they MAKE it a problem. They make the child feel like a defect then put them through all kinds of crap that never really changes them, it just forces them into the closet where all the other conservatives with sexual dysphoria are hiding.
L*****t rant ignored.