American Vet

Why California Is In Trouble – 340,000 Public Employees With $100,000+ Paychecks Cost Taxpayers $45 Billion

California has a $1 trillion unfunded pension liability.

Despite California’s $54 billion budget deficit and $1 trillion unfunded pension liability, there are 340,390 government employees bringing home six-figure salary and pension checks.

Recently, though, Gov. Gavin Newsom asked U.S. taxpayers for a bailout.

The governor wrote a letter to Congress requesting $1 trillion in c****av***s 50-state aid. Then, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi obliged by adding $500 billion for the states into the HEROES Act – the bill passed and now awaits action in the Senate.

Here, in part, is why California is asking for taxpayers help.

Our auditors at OpentheBooks.com found truck drivers in San Francisco making $159,000 per year; lifeguards in LA County costing taxpayers $365,000; nurses at UCSF making up to $501,000; the UCLA athletic director earning $1.8 million; and 1,420 city employees out-earning all 50 state governors ($202,000).

https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamandrzejewski/2020/05/19/why-california-is-in-trouble--340000-public-employees-with-100000-paychecks-cost-taxpayers-45-billion/?sh=4d1a07455fb8

straightUp Loc: California

Yes, you are... Parenting means talking to your children to find out how they feel about things. YOU are asking the schools to do the talking.


No, demanding that schools report sexual dysphoria is asking for the school to get involved. That's the opposite of what you are saying.

Why is this so hard for you understand? Good parents talk to their children to see what's going on and they foster the trust a child need to feel to be honest with the conversations. If parents are depending on schools to report on their child's inner feelings it means they suck as parents.


Oh, I see... so you think a child with sexual dysphoria is mentally disturbed. Do you think women who brew ginko tea are witches too?

What's going to happen when your child eventually DOES see a "mentally disturbed" person? Will he wonder why you never told them about it? Are you also going to refuse to teach your child how to do CPR or how to fight, since pr********n for the world is off limits?


Oh, but it's the governments job to report what a child is too scared to to tell his crappy parents about. Keep in mind it's not the liberals that are asking the schools to do anything... It's the conservatives making all the demands here.


Stop being an i***t. Just because a school respects a students privacy doesn't mean they are exposing the child to pornography. What a drama queen.

And to answer your question, no, we did not expose our children to pornography... but we did expose them to anatomy and sex education and we knew they would eventually discover pornography on their own as everyone does.

Dang you people are so uncomfortable with your sexuality. It's like you're all paranoid closet cases or something.

WEBCO

G****r dysphoria is a psychological issue. If a child is struggling with anything, be it school work or mental health problems, the schools should be required to tell the parents. The school has NO right to keep this from the parents, IF they believe harm might come to the child they can report it to CPS. The fact that you believe a child's delusion is ok doesn't negate the parents rights.

They are children, you or the state have NO right to impose your beliefs on someone else's child. Do you?

WEBCO

It's very simple...if a child has an issue at school, any issue, it is imperative that the parents are informed. It has always been this way, until now. Why is that?

Yes, g****r dysphoria IS a psychological disorder. Don't try to force me to play along with someone else's delusions. I won't.

It's you who is the i***t if you think 3rd graders aren't encouraged to read "g****r affirming" books at school. These books describe felatio and anal sex, so yes it is pornography.

Get between myself and MY children and you will regret it. I'm sure almost all parents feel this way.

Raise your children how you want to, and let others raise theirs how they want. Do you cheer on alcoholics? Or do you try to help them? If you try to help them, then please do the same for sick children.

Personal freedom and a right to privacy start at 18 years old, not 18 months old.

straightUp Loc: California

Only as much as being a Republican. People make choices about who they want to be and that's all g****r dysphoria is about.


That's incredibly short-sighted. If anything, the school should talk to the student first. If the student doesn't want his or her parents to know then the school should respect that student's privacy because it may actually be a matter of his or her safety. I've mentioned this three times now and either it just flies over your head or you really don't give a crap about children and their safety.

I once had to protect a child from his parents when I was a hockey coach. The kid didn't want to go home after practice and when my wife and I talked to him he said his dad beats him. So I called his dad and explained the situation. I already knew him to be an abrasive, right-wing macho-man who I thought might have a drinking problem. I told him his son was safe at our house. He immediately went ballistic, which only convinced us more that the kid was being t***hful. In the end, we called the police so THEY could deal with the situation.

So, I have first hand experience with bad parents. That's why I will always fight against any attempt by parents to demand that schools report their child's inner feelings when the child clearly doesn't want his parents to know.


Yes they do.


That would probably be a good idea, along with protecting the child's privacy. I know this violates conservative principals but parents don't OWN their children. You can raise them, feed and protect them but you don't OWN them.


The fact that you think a parent's delusion is ok, doesn't negate the child's right to privacy.


And yet that's exactly what the church does... Your hypocrisy is really boiling over here. Besides, I never said anything about imposing ANY beliefs on children. I think your emotional boil is mixing all the issues up in your head. This issue is specifically about parents in California demanding that schools report sexual dysphoria to the parents. Deciding NOT to report a child's dysphoria to the parents doesn't mean the school is "g***ming" children to be porn stars and d**g q***ns.

American Vet

[quote=straightUp]

Wrong. The parents must be notified of ANYTHING unusual about a child. A child has no right to privacy - especially in issues regarding their health. If anyone is concerned about their safety, the there are avenues for that. But teachers ARE NOT to make that decision arbitrarily.

straightUp Loc: California

Only if the issue hinders their education or presents potential harm to themselves or others. Sexual dysphoria doesn't do any of those things.


Reporting a child's sexual dysphoria is not something schools have always done. The only reason why this is an issue now is because only recently have conservatives started to push for NEW policies to FORCE schools to report sexual dysphoria.


That's fine,you are welcome to your own delusions. Just know that of your delusions threaten harm to children, even your own. I will be standing in your way.


LOL - That's hilarious! Schools teaching 3rd graders about blow jobs and sodomy. That's right up there with Pizza Gate. What about Jews and space lasers? Do you believe that too? Jesus, how did conservatives get to be so gullible?


I don't think so. I've done it before... I'll do it again.


I'm sure most of them do.


That generally what I do. Until the moment a parent beats the s**t out of their kid, then I'm coming in.


I certainly don't sheet them on. I try yo help them if I can.


I do... but sexual dysphoria isn't a sickness like alcoholism is. It's a personality.


So then you're saying a 16 year old girl has no right to tell her dad to get out of the bathroom when she's naked. Is that because her dad owns her? Is that how your f.cked up culture works?

straightUp Loc: California

Not if such notification poses a danger to the child. Seriously what part of this do you NOT understand?


Yes, they absolutely have a right to privacy. They are human beings not possessions. So, get over it.


And yet that is EXACTLY what these conservatives are demanding... the teachers make the arbitrary decision to report to the parents.

Look, there ARE avenues as you've said and of course they should be pursued if deemed necessary but this is done on a basis of trust where these other avenues are qualified professionals with proven reputations. Parents don't come with such credentials. So how is a school going to trust a parent - especially if the child is scared of them?

c'mon dude... use your head.

American Vet

[quote=straightUp][quote/]
Not if such notification poses a danger to the child. Seriously what part of this do you NOT understand?
It is not for the teacher to determine if the reporting is a danger to the child. If a teacher thinks the child is 'in danger', there are avenues that require it to be reported. A teacher is obligated by law to report the 'danger' to (typically) local children's services. What part of that do YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?

Yes, they absolutely have a right to privacy. They are human beings not possessions. So, get over it.
They are children - not adults. Not all 'human beings' have a right to privacy.

And yet that is EXACTLY what these conservatives want. They are demanding the teachers make the decision to report to the parents. Man, you can't even see your own hypocrisy, can you?
No hypocrisy there. I am simply pointing out what a teacher IS REQUIRED BY LAW to report. If there is 'no danger', then absolutely the teacher needs to let the parents know there is a problem.

So how is a school going to trust a parent - especially if the child is scared of them?
Again - it is not the teacher (or schools) job to evaluate the parents. If there is a danger - report it. If not - the parents have the legal and ethical right to know if a child is having a problem.

Pretty straightforward and clear - even you should be able to understand it. .

Bruce123

[quote=American Vet]

Let me speculate on this guy who you and others have been talking to.
Someone who posts intellectual content while engaging in debates with conservative individuals like you and gives the impression of being a government shill might be referred to as a "pseudo-intellectual operative" or an "astroturfer." The term "astroturfer" suggests that their actions could be part of an orchestrated campaign to shape public opinion, resembling grassroots efforts but actually backed by an organization or government.

I promise you that these people exist and work tirelessly to persuade people to a far left way of thinking .
He covertly attacks mainstream Christianity conservative values and when needed attacks aggressively to appear intellectually superior..

Casting pearls before swine is never a good idea.’

One last thing.
Look at his screen name Straightup.
It’s their way of mocking you and others.
Anything but Straight up.

WEBCO

We will never agree on this. You apparently dont grasp the notion of age appropriate

You proved my point...you reported suspected abuse to the proper authorities, apparently that's to much to ask of a school.

My children, until age 18, actually do belong to me. They can not do anything without my consent or permission. The absolute arrogance of yourself, your teachers, and administrators to believe that you know what is best for someone else's children is utterly appalling and disturbing.

American Vet

CounterRevolutionary

I agree with you 100%

Straightup's chosen alias here on OPP is a rather peculiar namesake in this debate. It is rather indicative.

He previously wrote:

"Deciding NOT to report a child's [[sexual]] dysphoria to the parents doesn't mean the school is "g***ming" children to be porn stars and d**g q***ns."

The government is g***ming children for RAPE. The government has no right to secretly castrate little boys and drug little girls with puberty blocking poisons. The public schools are Pizzagate on steroids.

There is no such thing as "sexual dysphoria" amongst children. That's because they are children.
Their brains are not fully developed to reason, their bodies are not fully developed to have sex.

The time has come to homeschool our children or offer vouchers to parents for school choice.

These damnable arrogant teachers and politicians should be castrated and incarcerated for life.

God, save our children.

AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State

Obviously, we were unfortunate to see you return. It was so delightful from December until now.

BIRDMAN

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