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What if Obama is not a naturally born Citizen of the United States?
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Jul 21, 2014 23:35:56   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
Ranger7374 wrote:
Now, what do you guys think America would do if it is proven through documentation, that president Obama is not a Naturally born Citizen?


I do not know what "America" as a whole would do. Think about the fact, possibly, every single law with his signature becomes null and void. Possibly, every regulation promulgated through his appointees becomes null and void. I am not sure about the SCOTUS appointees. Those were voted on by the Senate and possibly would stand; however, other Federal Judge appointments, possibly, could become null and void. Hmm...really not sure on that. All Executive Orders are null and void.

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Jul 22, 2014 00:11:23   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
AuntiE wrote:
I do not know what "America" as a whole would do. Think about the fact, possibly, every single law with his signature becomes null and void. Possibly, every regulation promulgated through his appointees becomes null and void. I am not sure about the SCOTUS appointees. Those were voted on by the Senate and possibly would stand; however, other Federal Judge appointments, possibly, could become null and void. Hmm...really not sure on that. All Executive Orders are null and void.


Is there a possibility that more of what are considered laws of a new kind are mostly EOs? The Congress has passed so few of them because the houses refuse to work with each other. It will be tough but it still could happen.

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Jul 22, 2014 01:30:16   #
Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ
 
oldroy wrote:
Is there a possibility that more of what are considered laws of a new kind are mostly EOs? The Congress has passed so few of them because the houses refuse to work with each other. It will be tough but it still could happen.


If we the people push it hard enough, Congress has to change everything. I really do not know what will happen. This is why I asked the original question. But I do know that Congress would have to act, to remove everything Obama did and come up with a formative and justifiable compromise. This could be interesting.

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Jul 22, 2014 04:46:08   #
Retired669
 
Ranger7374 wrote:
Sheriff Joe is an investigator and sounds like Hoover. But He is investigating and I quote "Who forged the document." He is not investigating what is written on the document, he's investigating the validity of the document.

The investigation sought out to prove that the document was true. Look at the twists and turns it took. In 2012 I too thought the issue was over, until I read the updates. So that charge is back on the table. I'm wondering what is going to happen when Sheriff Joe ends the investigation, and submitted his findings to an open session of Congress. It will be interesting to watch.
Sheriff Joe is an investigator and sounds like Hoo... (show quote)




Nothing is going to happen since the courts have already ruled on this issue long ago and do any of you birthers realize you can go down to your local courthouse and get a copy of your original birth certificate? :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Jul 22, 2014 04:51:48   #
Hemiman Loc: Communist California
 
Retired669 wrote:
Nothing is going to happen since the courts have already ruled on this issue long ago and do any of you birthers realize you can go down to your local courthouse and get a copy of your original birth certificate? :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:


You couldn't,copy machines can't copy birth certificates carved out of tree bark. :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Jul 22, 2014 05:17:55   #
Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ
 
Retired669 wrote:
Nothing is going to happen since the courts have already ruled on this issue long ago and do any of you birthers realize you can go down to your local courthouse and get a copy of your original birth certificate? :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:


It hasn't gone to court yet. The investigation is still on going. Sorry but it will come to a head soon. But we don't know when. Sheriff Joe says he's getting real close. So we just have to wait. Remember Sheriff Joe is not validating the birth certificate, Sheriff Joe is going after the one who forged it.

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Jul 22, 2014 06:56:19   #
yogiman
 
The entire North American Continent become one nation? With 'umpteen' different lifestyles and languages?

The North American Continent can never become a nations of united states.

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Jul 22, 2014 07:00:12   #
yogiman
 
Interesting: That might make them a greater joking team and get them off their ignorant comical comments.

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Jul 22, 2014 07:49:55   #
Turk182
 
This is a quote from "www.abodia.com/2/United-States-is-a-corporation.htm"

"What you didn't learn when you went to the School of Fools
The United States is a corporation
You are here: www.abodia.com/2/United-States-is-a-corporation.htm
The UNITED STATES was formed in 1871, which controls only the District of Columbia and the territories it purchases or acquires; Puerto Rico, Guam, Virgin Islands. Many think that income taxes, and some laws do not effect people in the sovereign states of the union as they are outside of the control / jurisdiction of the United States corporation. The United States of America is different from the "United States" [corporation]."

The government has fooled everyone by teachings in the school of fools we all went to when we were growing up. Thanks to the internet and some people who have worked to clarify the "organic laws" especially the Constitution.

"No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States."

The United States is a corporation, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States is living in D.C.

That is why there has never been a legal President because they were not 14 years a resident within the United States.

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Jul 22, 2014 08:23:48   #
Weyner
 
Ranger7374 wrote:
Don't give up! Don't you dare give up! Even Bush said "we must remain vigilant!"-after the 9/11 attacks. Don't you dare give up! It people like me and the sicilianthing, that will not give up. We are going to continue to post true stories of this infiltration of the country, in the enemies attempt to usurp the constitution. Do not let the constitution die. It is our last defense against tyranny. Do not give up. Pray! Speak out! Expose the injustice! Keep fighting! Do not do anything rash, and uphold the rule of Law, but speak out against tyranny.

They cannot stop us. And they know it!
Don't give up! Don't you dare give up! Even Bush s... (show quote)

We will not let them RUIN OUR AMERICA,We will FIGHT for OUR AMERICA and OUR FREEDOM!

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Jul 22, 2014 10:53:11   #
Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ
 
Weyner wrote:
We will not let them RUIN OUR AMERICA,We will FIGHT for OUR AMERICA and OUR FREEDOM!


Now that's what I'm talking about. Why don't we try to recruit some patriots into the state militias?

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Jul 22, 2014 11:40:43   #
yogiman
 
Why don't the states re-form the State Guards as they had them back in the 40s and 50s that I remember. They had a State Guard and Nations Guard.

If memory serves me correctly, the State Guards were "thrown out the door" after Alabama's Governor George Wallace used the Alabama State Guard against the Negros in their rebellion in the 50s.

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Jul 22, 2014 14:19:26   #
Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ
 
yogiman wrote:
Why don't the states re-form the State Guards as they had them back in the 40s and 50s that I remember. They had a State Guard and Nations Guard.

If memory serves me correctly, the State Guards were "thrown out the door" after Alabama's Governor George Wallace used the Alabama State Guard against the Negros in their rebellion in the 50s.


The State Guard was used in the Alabama riot, the vietnam riot, ah hell all the riots from 1964-1975. But the State Guard is not Militia. State Guard is actually, subject to the state, where Militia and the State are equal. And the Constitution grandfathered the Militia.

If I understand this correctly, the colonies had Militia first, then there were Colonies. Then at Lexington and Concord the British tried to disarm the Colonists and the Militia stood up against them. then the massacre began.

When the news of the massacre hit the Continental Congress, they placed the call of Revolution on the table, this was July 2, 1776 and for two days they either had to vote yea for revolution or nay against, if it was yea it had to be unanimous, if it was nay, it had to be unanimous. Adams Jefferson and Franklin were tasked at writing the Declaration and Washington was tasked with commanding the Army. And the rest is history!

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Jul 22, 2014 14:29:54   #
yogiman
 
I was in the State Guard in 1943. I lied about my age and enlisted on my 13th birthday.

The Captain was a pretty smart man and actually knew me (small town and not too many people).

He issued me a Thompson submachine gun. I loved that "toy". I could tear it apart and put it back together blindfolded.

I wish I still had it to use against Obama's civilian army when they attack.

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Jul 22, 2014 14:41:24   #
Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ
 
yogiman wrote:
I was in the State Guard in 1943. I lied about my age and enlisted on my 13th birthday.

The Captain was a pretty smart man and actually knew me (small town and not too many people).

He issued me a Thompson submachine gun. I loved that "toy". I could tear it apart and put it back together blindfolded.

I wish I still had it to use against Obama's civilian army when they attack.


After reading about the Militia don't worry too much about it. Obama's army is nothing compared to your State Militia. You will be safe. Give you a recent example, the Arizona Militia and the Nevada Militia assisted in the Bundy Ranch ordeal on the side of the Bundy's and refused to leave until Reed's army left. The Militia's got our back!

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