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Jul 21, 2014 01:12:34   #
Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ
 
saveamerica wrote:
It's already been proven. Obama Sr. was not America Citizen, he was a foreign student from Africa.

Plus, Obama was born in Kenya 8/4/1961 and got his Hawaii Birth Certificate on August 8, 1961 and Obama grandmother signed it and it states on line 23 - 1. Birthplace: Kenya; Registered Honolulu. HRS 338-17.8 per Grandmother.

This is why Obama does not want anyone to see his Hawaii Birth Certificate.

It would put him in Jail and maybe death.


The birth certificate that you are referring to, the one from Hawaii, is a fraud. Sheriff Joe proved that. Oh, my God, this is worse than I thought

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Jul 21, 2014 06:01:13   #
Obama
 
the only ace barry soetoro aka wh**ever Obama could possibly be holding up his sleeve is that his father was an American citizen & not hussein obama sr.
and the choices are endless his mother was a total s***

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Jul 21, 2014 07:12:34   #
Turk182
 
It surprises me that more people do not know about the laws. The Constitution tells what the qualifications for President is. "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States."

The United States is Washington D.C. and a 10 mile square.
That means that no President has ever lived in the "United States" for 14 years, thus no President has ever been legal. The President is a CEO of the United States and not the President. The United States is a Corporation.

If you read the constitution it also says, "16.) To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;--And".

"No Person shall be a Senator who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty Years, and been nine Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State for which he shall be chosen."

"No Person shall be a Representative who shall not have attained to the Age of twenty five Years, and been seven Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State in which he shall be chosen."

That means that the Senators and Representatives are not legal as well.

If you learn the laws it will surprise you how the Government has lied to the people for over 226 years. It all starts with the first law book "United States Code". I use the 2012 edition, Title 1 thru Title 5. It has the 'Organic Laws" in it. If you read them you will see how the law works. Apparently none of the lawyers get this law book or they would learn that they are illegal by the way they practice law. The only legal place for courts is on Federal Property and attorneys must practice law there as well.

The Constitution was written to control and guide the Congress and the people in Washington D.C., and the property it owns.

This brings up the subject of "are you a citizen". Were you born in the United States? Not unless you were born in Washington D.C.. Are you a "Naturalized Citizen"? Did you take an oath to the United States? Or are you a "Free Inhabitant"? This really changes the picture of how and what you think doesn't it?

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Jul 21, 2014 07:44:09   #
yogiman
 
The smoke screen has been developed by congress and they've all been smoking ever since 2007 when Obama changed his birth place from Kenya to Hawaii.

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Jul 21, 2014 14:03:10   #
Candace Grugel
 
Congress knew!! Pelosi actually reworded the statement each state is required to submit, which more or less states that he/she knows the candidate and that he/she is qualified to run for President. It's on record. Hell, Goofball, RINO, MCain stood up & LIED that he had seen O'Bummer's birth certificate. The saddest outcome is that the majority of these chuckleheads will continue to suck up our taxes, spending like drunken sailors, and we'll never get rid of them until they die. Quite a sad commentary on our once-great nation.

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Jul 21, 2014 14:43:51   #
yogiman
 
Obama was the choice of Congress: Bar none. The affirmation form "polio" sent to the Hawaiian Secretary of State was worded differently from the other 58. Or was that 57? Barry seemed to have forgotten how many states he had been in.

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Jul 21, 2014 15:22:22   #
yogiman
 
Like father, like son. His father was a British Subject; as was Barack Hussein II. I don't think he could have even been given dual citizenship because of his mother's age by the laws of 1961, which raises the question: when did he become a naturalized citizen of the USA?

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Jul 21, 2014 15:37:15   #
yogiman
 
We 'mustuv' had different history teachers. I understood Washington DC was to be the the capital of the states that agreed to unite and become one nation so they could "get along" together like brothers and sisters. They became known as the United States.

They started becoming a bigger family when their 'cousins' began asking to become part of the [family]. It seemed pretty obvious their parents (executives) weren't willing to give them what they wished they could have.

Our 'family' has grown from 13 to 50; whose gonna fall in line next?

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Jul 21, 2014 17:20:02   #
Retired669
 
Ranger7374 wrote:
Well one day in 2012 before the e******n, I believe it was in March, I heard a report from Sheriff Joe's office in Maricopa County, which stated that Obama was indeed a citzen of the United States. So, I let the whole issue go.

Now upon further investigation, I have found that the earlier report does not hold water, That the birth certificate released by the white house was a forgery! A forgery!

Sheriff Joe said that he was close to the perp that created the forgery. I agree with Sheriff Joe, I don't give a damn where he was born, what I care about is the forged document. Now, the investigation gets worse and worse as it continues.

Something that the rest of the nation doesn't understand about Sheriff Joe, is that he sought out to prove that the birth certificate was authentic. He sought to prove that the Birth certificate was true. Instead the investigation proved otherwise. I respect that old Italian but If the issue about the birth certificate is still a legal issue, then everything with in the administration from November 2008 til present is still ongoing and we have had six years of no work because of this smoke screen.

How pathetic.....
Well one day in 2012 before the e******n, I believ... (show quote)


Sheriff joe is a GD lunatic and anyone who believes this birther nonsense is one as well!... :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Jul 21, 2014 22:59:11   #
Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ
 
yogiman wrote:
We 'mustuv' had different history teachers. I understood Washington DC was to be the the capital of the states that agreed to unite and become one nation so they could "get along" together like brothers and sisters. They became known as the United States.

They started becoming a bigger family when their 'cousins' began asking to become part of the [family]. It seemed pretty obvious their parents (executives) weren't willing to give them what they wished they could have.

Our 'family' has grown from 13 to 50; whose gonna fall in line next?
We 'mustuv' had different history teachers. I unde... (show quote)


Mexico, Canada, Puerto Rico, Cuba, D******n Republic, Jamaica, Bermuda, hell I think We should have the whole North American Continent! But that is just my opinion. It would end most of the i*****l i*******t problems and maybe the drug war too. In time. But that dream is impossible with presidents like Obama! Oh, well, too bad....

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Jul 21, 2014 23:02:30   #
Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ
 
Retired669 wrote:
Sheriff joe is a GD lunatic and anyone who believes this birther nonsense is one as well!... :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:


Sheriff Joe is an investigator and sounds like Hoover. But He is investigating and I quote "Who forged the document." He is not investigating what is written on the document, he's investigating the validity of the document.

The investigation sought out to prove that the document was true. Look at the twists and turns it took. In 2012 I too thought the issue was over, until I read the updates. So that charge is back on the table. I'm wondering what is going to happen when Sheriff Joe ends the investigation, and submitted his findings to an open session of Congress. It will be interesting to watch.

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Jul 21, 2014 23:06:52   #
Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ
 
yogiman wrote:
The smoke screen has been developed by congress and they've all been smoking ever since 2007 when Obama changed his birth place from Kenya to Hawaii.


Hell, if Congress was smoking anything good, they would be laughing more than fighting. Someone has got to get a bong for congress!

Look at Congress before Prohibition, and look at Congress today. I agree with my friend, we need to put the men back on whiskey and the women back on valume. Hell, that might cure Nancy Pelosi, and make McCain a more comical guy.

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Jul 21, 2014 23:18:33   #
Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ
 
Turk182 wrote:
It surprises me that more people do not know about the laws. The Constitution tells what the qualifications for President is. "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States."

The United States is Washington D.C. and a 10 mile square.
That means that no President has ever lived in the "United States" for 14 years, thus no President has ever been legal. The President is a CEO of the United States and not the President. The United States is a Corporation.

If you read the constitution it also says, "16.) To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;--And".

"No Person shall be a Senator who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty Years, and been nine Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State for which he shall be chosen."

"No Person shall be a Representative who shall not have attained to the Age of twenty five Years, and been seven Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State in which he shall be chosen."

That means that the Senators and Representatives are not legal as well.

If you learn the laws it will surprise you how the Government has lied to the people for over 226 years. It all starts with the first law book "United States Code". I use the 2012 edition, Title 1 thru Title 5. It has the 'Organic Laws" in it. If you read them you will see how the law works. Apparently none of the lawyers get this law book or they would learn that they are illegal by the way they practice law. The only legal place for courts is on Federal Property and attorneys must practice law there as well.

The Constitution was written to control and guide the Congress and the people in Washington D.C., and the property it owns.

This brings up the subject of "are you a citizen". Were you born in the United States? Not unless you were born in Washington D.C.. Are you a "Naturalized Citizen"? Did you take an oath to the United States? Or are you a "Free Inhabitant"? This really changes the picture of how and what you think doesn't it?
It surprises me that more people do not know about... (show quote)


I'm not a lawyer, but a naturally born citizens, include the states and property of the United States. Washington DC is property or a territory of the United States and a natural born citizen is a person who was born either in the States or the territories of the States. This question came up in my history class about 20 years ago and boy did we duke it out. The History teacher brought a constitutional lawyer in to clarify the issue of DC. After much headed debate and proof from various court cases it has been determined that "a naturally born citizen" is a person who was born in one of the 50 States or their territories. I'm still researching the rest of your argument but I think you misread the clause, just like we all do from time to time.

But the fact is Washington, DC. is considered a district or territory of the United States. For example, if a person was born in Puerto Rico, a territory of the United States, that person can after he reaches the age of 35, and resides in the United States 14 years prior to the e******n can legally and constitutionally President of the United States.

Washington DC is special because the States wanted a neutral land to place the capitol to prove that they did not favor any one state. This does not make DC another country, it just makes DC a federal Territory. I think I've explained it. But good work. You got me thinking....

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Jul 21, 2014 23:24:04   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Retired669 wrote:
Sheriff joe is a GD lunatic and anyone who believes this birther nonsense is one as well!... :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:


What will you be saying if all this is proved to be true? Will you admit to being a GD lunatic? Maybe you need to back off a little now and then.

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Jul 21, 2014 23:32:33   #
Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ
 
oldroy wrote:
What will you be saying if all this is proved to be true? Will you admit to being a GD lunatic? Maybe you need to back off a little now and then.


Great point oldroy! You guys are on the ball tonight!

If a crisis is still under investigation, we can speculate but we cannot pre-judge. For if we pre-judge we are practicing prejudice. How ever if we, the people, believe there is wrong doing we have a right to have our government investigate the issue and bring those to justice who broke the law! You are so right oldroy! Bravo! :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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