Where the Good Guys With the Guns? (Page 23): The problem is not only are you battling criminal thugs you're fighting the criminal politicos protecting them instead of law-abiding...

zillaorange

Rose42 wrote:

There needs to be more good guys with guns. The number of crimes and self defense situations averted are vastly understated. People usually don’t report them. If they did we’d likely never hear about it from the media

The problem is not only are you battling criminal thugs you're fighting the criminal politicos protecting them instead of law-abiding citizens!!!

TexaCan Loc: Homeward Bound!

Rose42 wrote:

Yeah, RR is not penny. Who knows why albert stalks him. Its really strange

Is/was this penny character worse than rinaldi?

I should have said……..One of the most vulgar!

Oldsalt

RascalRiley wrote:

If everyone was armed would there be more or less people shot dead?

https://nypost.com/2023/04/11/several-people-shot-outside-dc-funeral-home-cops/?utm_source=sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=news_alert&utm_content=20230411?&utm_source=sailthru&lctg=633b21edb1f392b99703acba&utm_term=NYP%20-%20News%20Alerts

An armed society is a polite society. People would be a lot less prone to pull a gun if they thought their intended victim were also equaly armed.

Oldsalt

RascalRiley wrote:

More.

Republicans voted against a red flag law which could have prevented recent shootings. People give clues to their intentions.

And as far as settling disputes, having a gun on your hip is similar having liquid courage only guns are more consequential then fists.

Children shot and get shot a lot, one I read of today, because guns are so normalized they get left about.

1) Reed Flag laws are unConstitutional. 2)As for having a gun on your hip is like liquid courage...not so. I teach concealed carry and the first four hours of the class are Situational Awareness and Conflict Avoidance. I teach how to keep from using your gun until all other measures have been used up. 3) Children in home that have firearms MUST be taught to not touch them...they are not toys or something to be messed with. When I was growing up dad's pistols were in his sock drawer, the long guns were in the fruit room. None were "locked" up. If you were putting dad's sock away you saw the pistols and if you needed to get a jar of peas out of the room under the stairs you saw the long guns, but in both instances you knew you weren't to touch them. Dad would have warmed our back sides. You didn't touch his tools either. We had boundres. If you can't teach your children to not touch there are plenty of fast aacting gun safes at reasonable prices. Again if you are going to own a gun be a responcible gun owner.

Oldsalt

F.D.R. wrote:

Several years ago when Florida adopted concealed carry everyone (well democrats at least) predicted "blood in the streets" which never happened. What did happen was a significant drop in crime.

At that time the local Sheriff's department were offering free training to any woman becausse the rape stats were so high. Because of the free training advertised in the papers rapes dropped by over 50%.

Oldsalt

RascalRiley wrote:

Not confiscate. That is not a rational idea. Propaganda.

Required training as in driving a car or flying a plane.

Red flag laws so preventable measures can be implemented.

But neither will happen. The carnage is collateral damage in the quest to sell guns.

Once again RR you have no idea of our Constitution and the Bill of Rights. We don't live in a tyranny like you do (at least not yet). That's is why the Constitution limits what the Government can do. They cannot "require" anything in the application of our rights. Requiring training in order to exercise a right is unconstitutional, red flag laws are unconstitutional. As was held by the Supreme Court the Constitution is the supreme law of the land.

Rose42

zillaorange wrote:

The problem is not only are you battling criminal thugs you're fighting the criminal politicos protecting them instead of law-abiding citizens!!!

Mind boggling isn’t it. In NY crime is soaring and Bragg is ineffective. Cops are retiring and others just hanging on because they have to feed their families.

In San Francisco Whole Foods just closed after only one year because of too much theft. Nothing is being done and they can’t find people to hire to be cops. Its a powder keg and people want a change

microphor Loc: Home is TN

RascalRiley wrote:

Not confiscate. That is not a rational idea. Propaganda.

Required training as in driving a car or flying a plane.

Red flag laws so preventable measures can be implemented.

But neither will happen. The carnage is collateral damage in the quest to sell guns.

You're not a citizen of the u s so it's none of your app in business. You got problems in your own country. pretty ugly ones as I noted, taking as many freedoms away from the people as possible. Why don't you go out there and yell about that?

microphor Loc: Home is TN

Anybody seen the left out there running after hunter Biden after he committed a felony on a gun application? not only that, after that he allowed the gun to be end up in the wrong hands and in a public trash bin. Where's the outrage? This criminal running our streets.

zillaorange

microphor wrote:

Anybody seen the left out there running after hunter Biden after he committed a felony on a gun application? not only that, after that he allowed the gun to be end up in the wrong hands and in a public trash bin. Where's the outrage? This criminal running our streets.

In a GUN FREE ZONE!!!

nonalien1 Loc: Mojave Desert

Rose42 wrote:

Mind boggling isn’t it. In NY crime is soaring and Bragg is ineffective. Cops are retiring and others just hanging on because they have to feed their families.

In San Francisco Whole Foods just closed after only one year because of too much theft. Nothing is being done and they can’t find people to hire to be cops. Its a powder keg and people want a change

Yup. and the current laws favor the criminal. Someone can fill up a shopping cart and push it right out the door without paying. If a store employee touches them trying to stop them the employee can be arrested If they see them going for the door and try to lock it they can lose their business licence. Shooting them may be the best option. Using a taser might be more humane but could open you up to law suits. The criminals are winning. That's how messed up our country is becoming. Choke the Woke FJB. Two generations of not allowing us to spank our own kids and now kids have no respect. For others or themselves

Army

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BIRDMAN

nonalien1 wrote:

Yup. and the current laws favor the criminal. Some... (show quote)

zillaorange

LostAggie66 Loc: Corpus Christi, TX (Shire of Seawinds)

Oldsalt wrote:

1) Reed Flag laws are unConstitutional. 2)As for h... (show quote)

Agreed right now RedFlag Laws are Unconstitutional. However would you favor amending the Constitution to allow both RedFlag laws and/or licensing use of fire arms ?