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May 6, 2023 09:50:06   #
Jim0001 Loc: originally from Tennessee, now Virginia, USA
 
Oldsalt wrote:
An armed society is a polite society. People would be a lot less prone to pull a gun if they thought their intended victim were also equaly armed.


Politest people in the world are at gun shows!

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May 6, 2023 09:55:02   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
RascalRiley wrote:

Red f**g laws so preventable measures can be implemented.



Red f**g laws are a prime place for fraudulent claims .

Don't like your neighbor call in to the police that he has threaten to shoot school kids .

Police arrive take all his guns which will never be returned thus his Constitutional rights have been taken away which you don't understand since Canada hasn't got Constitution and Bill of Rights

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May 6, 2023 11:36:09   #
zillaorange
 
4430 wrote:
Red f**g laws are a prime place for fraudulent claims .

Don't like your neighbor call in to the police that he has threaten to shoot school kids .

Police arrive take all his guns which will never be returned thus his Constitutional rights have been taken away which you don't understand since Canada hasn't got Constitution and Bill of Rights


Try to take his guns. Will get very mess!

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May 6, 2023 13:45:20   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
Jim0001 wrote:
Politest people in the world are at gun shows!


just goes to show, armed civilians are civil!

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May 28, 2023 21:28:12   #
PeterS
 

More, without question. Conservatives always figure that only "responsible" people with buy weapons but as we know from experience is that the mentally ill will be at the head of the line buying as many guns as they possibly can. Uvalde and the Allen Mall shooting are but two examples and with the Allen Mall shooting the "good guy" was there on other police business but even so, the shooter managed to k**l 8 and wound 7 before he could be k**led. Thanks to our local conservatives any i***t can buy a gun that is only suited for war which means that even if "good guys" are right there they are helpless to stop a mass shooting from occurring.

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May 29, 2023 00:14:02   #
Army
 
PeterS wrote:
More, without question. Conservatives always figure that only "responsible" people with buy weapons but as we know from experience is that the mentally ill will be at the head of the line buying as many guns as they possibly can. Uvalde and the Allen Mall shooting are but two examples and with the Allen Mall shooting the "good guy" was there on other police business but even so, the shooter managed to k**l 8 and wound 7 before he could be k**led. Thanks to our local conservatives any i***t can buy a gun that is only suited for war which means that even if "good guys" are right there they are helpless to stop a mass shooting from occurring.
More, without question. Conservatives always figur... (show quote)


Contrary to what they want you to believe most mentally I’ll people don’t commit crimes but if your government has its way all people will be declared mentally I’ll ( except our government officials ) that k**l more on paper & wars , drugs , poverty , slums as well as freedoms an to work now i******s to further c*******t this country over load the system an take away rights food , inflation , gas , more taxes , more crime but the most crimes are created by government MK ultra operation mockingbird , all your alphabet groups . Under the DMS or DSM manual not even based on Science no psychiatrist even believes that anyone is sane they believe everyone’s mentally ill . An if you been watching Obama wants all declared ( steps made ) to take all weapons just by saying without a crime even being committed just being on any medication or medicine or a neighbors statement you could be put hail or death without any reason or trial . Who are the real psychos your government is . If you think they’re not you’re crazy your government wants you dead . There green agenda , eating bugs , f**e meat , poison food & water , point less wars , so many levels of evil . You need grow up if you think your government cares there k**lers .

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May 29, 2023 00:33:25   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
RascalRiley wrote:
If everyone was armed would there be more or less people shot dead?
"IF". WTF?
No one in their right mind would want to see everyone armed.
Wouldn't be possible anyway.

That said, Banning Guns Will Increase Crime | Harvard Study Overview

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May 29, 2023 00:43:15   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
PeterS wrote:
More, without question. Conservatives always figure that only "responsible" people with buy weapons but as we know from experience is that the mentally ill will be at the head of the line buying as many guns as they possibly can. Uvalde and the Allen Mall shooting are but two examples and with the Allen Mall shooting the "good guy" was there on other police business but even so, the shooter managed to k**l 8 and wound 7 before he could be k**led. Thanks to our local conservatives any i***t can buy a gun that is only suited for war which means that even if "good guys" are right there they are helpless to stop a mass shooting from occurring.
More, without question. Conservatives always figur... (show quote)
You need some new material, Peter, we've heard this outrageously irrational rant many times.

Mentally ill people do not line up to buy guns.
Conservatives have never advocated for, or passed laws, or put in place regulations that allow "any i***t" to buy a gun.
Without jumping through all the hoops and paying the fees, no civilian can legally purchase a gun "only suited for war".

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May 29, 2023 08:19:01   #
pescado rojo
 


DC has Draconian gun laws and low gun ownership. It also has one of the highest murder rates in the US. The per capita homicide rate in the US is a little over 6:100,000. In DC, that rate is about 27:100,000. The facts are that mass shootings almost invariably happen in gun free zones. These are not random acts, but are planned to take place at times and locations where it's unlikely anyone will shoot back.
I will give you another statistic.... Semi auto rifles including but not limited to the scary looking ones account for a little over one percent of the murders in this country. Knives, clubs and even bare hands each are responsible for more murders, every year for at least the past ten years than ALL rifles and shotguns.
Another little stat for your perusal; I mentioned the US murder rate at 6:100,000. Broken down by race it is as follows:
B****s and Hispanics comprise 13 and 18 percent of the population respectively. They commit nearly 3/4 of the murders.
W****s of European descent and Asians account for most of the rest of the population, combined about 65%. They account for less than one fourth of the homicides. In fact, the homicide stats for these two demographics are about the same as the homicide stats for most of Europe.
Tell me more about less guns.

https://www.census.gov/

https://www.fbi.gov/how-we-can-help-you/more-fbi-services-and-information/ucr

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May 29, 2023 08:29:17   #
pescado rojo
 
RascalRiley wrote:
More.

Republicans v**ed against a red f**g law which could have prevented recent shootings. People give clues to their intentions.

And as far as settling disputes, having a gun on your hip is similar having liquid courage only guns are more consequential then fists.

Children shot and get shot a lot, one I read of today, because guns are so normalized they get left about.


Which red f**g law did Republicans v**e against that would have prevented recent shootings? Source, if you don't mind.
Settling disputes? Perhaps "having a gun on YOUR hip is what YOU would consider "liquid courage." Children get shot a lot, and it's mostly in a handful of metro areas, NOT in schools. Who shoots them? Criminals with stolen guns. Now you can explain how a red f**g law that will be ignored by the most likely perpetrators will stop anything.
Too many red f**g laws are simply confiscation of guns without due process. In Florida, you make a complaint and there must be a warrant taken out. It requires a sworn statement under penalty of perjury by either an LEO, medical doctor or an officer of the court, and then must be signed by a judge. It also provides serious penalties for misuse or mischievous actions. Most proposed red f**g laws have no provision for prosecution of malicious actions. You can swear out a false warrant on someone who pissed you off and face no consequences.
This is why so many Republicans are opposed to red f**g laws. They are not opposed to the ones like Florida has enacted, which emphasize due process.

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May 29, 2023 08:35:35   #
pescado rojo
 
RascalRiley wrote:
Your word for a significant drop in crime? Florida is one of the better southern states at 23 nation wide in this ranking.

As more and more people get armed gun deaths will not decrease and more children will be shot by siblings due to increase in coffee table availablity of guns.

No background checks, no carry permits. Why do we need driver licenses? Sovereign citizens are on the increase.


Where do you get the idea that background checks are not required? Most gun purchases do require them. As for carry permits, They are mostly a s**m to make extra money. The background check for a CCP is the same one you have to submit to in order to purchase a firearm.

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May 29, 2023 10:29:45   #
zillaorange
 
PeterS wrote:
More, without question. Conservatives always figure that only "responsible" people with buy weapons but as we know from experience is that the mentally ill will be at the head of the line buying as many guns as they possibly can. Uvalde and the Allen Mall shooting are but two examples and with the Allen Mall shooting the "good guy" was there on other police business but even so, the shooter managed to k**l 8 and wound 7 before he could be k**led. Thanks to our local conservatives any i***t can buy a gun that is only suited for war which means that even if "good guys" are right there they are helpless to stop a mass shooting from occurring.
More, without question. Conservatives always figur... (show quote)


Then let the socialist dems stop disarming law-abiding citizens a letting the savages out of jail. There'll be more GOOD GUYS with guns and fewer thugs on the street. As for the crazies, the GOD GUYS won't discriminate!!!

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May 29, 2023 15:32:05   #
BIRDMAN
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
You need some new material, Peter, we've heard this outrageously irrational rant many times.

Mentally ill people do not line up to buy guns.
Conservatives have never advocated for, or passed laws, or put in place regulations that allow "any i***t" to buy a gun.
Without jumping through all the hoops and paying the fees, no civilian can legally purchase a gun "only suited for war".


Roadhouse



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May 30, 2023 09:08:53   #
pescado rojo
 
RascalRiley wrote:
Your neighbor doesn't like your tree branches h*****g across the fence and you refuse to anything about them so he calls the law and tells them some cock and bull story about how mentally ill you are .

You are still alive to care for you family and you have legal recourse to rectify the situation.

Many multiple shooters telegraph there intentions to someone. Friend, professional counsellor or stranger.

These people who know, without red f**g laws, are helpless to act and must watch it play out. That would be pain neither of us has experienced.
i Your neighbor doesn't like your tree branches ... (show quote)


As I said, Florida has the right idea. You think someone is a danger, and call the police. The police investigate, and if they think it is warranted, go to a judge and swear out a warrant under penalty of perjury. Warrant served, firearms removed temporarily until case is adjudicated. (There is also a time limit) Most proposed red f**g laws provide no penalties for false or malicious statements resulting in confiscations and only civil penalties for violation of one's fourth amendment rights. In Florida, malicious false statements like that carry criminal penalties. Make false statements resulting in loss or injury to an innocent person, your ass goes to jail.

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May 30, 2023 19:21:43   #
Army
 
BIRDMAN wrote:
Roadhouse


Ha ha ! Like that

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