EmilyD wrote:
"I changed my mind" is one of those things people say when they get busted for lying.
It's more often something an intelligent person says when he's learned something new.
straightUp wrote:
It's more often something an intelligent person says when he's learned something new.
Yes, I can see how you would think that. You've been caught "changing your mind" quite a few times yourself...or was it a "mistake" you made....or a "mix-up"....
straightUp wrote:
I'd love to hear you explain that one. I could use a good laugh.
I understand. Most leftist do laugh at the Constitution and the BoR - unfortunately
I believe this one puts it quite succinctly:Constitutional preservationist speaker and author Michael Badnarik put it bluntly: "[t]he Second Amendment is our emergency cut-off switch for a government run amok." https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2018/03/why_the_second_amendment.htmlWhen proposing the Fourteenth Amendment to Congress in 1866, Senator Jacob Howard referred to “the personal rights guaranteed and secured by the first eight amendments of the Constitution; such as freedom of speech and of the press; … the right to keep and bear arms….” He averred that “the great object” of the amendment was “to restrain the power of the States and compel them at all times to respect these great fundamental guarantees.” The design was not to change the nature of the rights, but to prevent the states from violating them.
The Second Amendment was ratified in 1791, and the Fourteenth Amendment was ratified in 1868. The Supreme Court stated in D.C. v. Heller (2008) and repeated this year in N.Y. York State Rifle & Pistol Ass’n v. Bruen: “Constitutional rights are enshrined with the scope they were understood to have when the people adopted them.” So do we look for that understanding in 1791 or in 1868? …
In short, there is only one Second Amendment. It means what it meant in 1791. Although analysis of attitudes in 1868 is relevant to determining whether the Second Amendment is incorporated, that does not change the fact that what was incorporated was the pre-existing right to keep and bear arms. Post-1868 evidence cannot be used to contradict that original understanding.
Stephen Halbrook in Did the Fourteenth Amendment Alter the Meaning of the Second Amendment?
The Second Amendment was envisioned by the framers of the Constitution, according to College of William and Mary law professor and future U.S. District Court judge St. George Tucker in 1803 in his great work Blackstone’s Commentaries: With Notes of Reference to the Constitution and Laws of the Federal Government of the United States and of the Commonwealth of Virginia, as the “true palladium of liberty.”
District of Columbia v. Heller (2008), in which the Supreme Court examined the Second Amendment in exacting detail. In a narrow 5–4 majority, delivered by Antonin Scalia, the Supreme Court held that self-defense was the “central component” of the amendment and that the District of Columbia’s “prohibition against rendering any lawful firearm in the home operable for the purpose of immediate self-defense” to be unconstitutional. The Supreme Court also affirmed previous rulings that the Second Amendment ensured the right of individuals to take part in the defending of their liberties by taking up arms in an organized militia. However, the court was clear to emphasize that an individual’s right to an “organized militia” is not “the sole institutional beneficiary of the Second Amendment’s guarantee.”
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Second-Amendment
EmilyD wrote:
Right now on just OPP, Penny has about six different active usernames where she pretends to be different "real" people (not the same person with different usernames.)
On the other site she had over 16 of them. Albert knows more details about her and her pathological history than you could imagine...both here and on the other site.
Trying to psych albert out about Penny by calling him names and debasing his character is a low blow...and suspicious.
Oh please. I’m not trying to ‘psych him out’. I’m calling him out. I could care less about how many characters this penny has. He goes overboard. Don’t follow him off the plank.
Now if I were going overboard I’d say you and Birdmam were albert’s sock puppets because you defended him. See how silly that is? Its entertaining though.
I know some of her identities here. She’s not that hard to spot.
straightUp wrote:
The rest of my "rant" is the truth that you can't handle. Now go cry to your nerdy club on Discord.
FYI Technically a slingshot is an assault weapon.
RascalRiley wrote:
Rights? There were no cars in 1776. Airports yes, but no cars. If owning a gun is an American citizen’s right why are felons denied. If a felon can be denied then it stands to reason that a danger to society should be denied. Red flag laws. The 2nd. has been twisted to sell guns. Capitalism run amok.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2019/jul/05/trump-claims-1775-revolutionary-army-took-over-airports-videoMost guns used in multiple fatalities are legally purchased with people coming forward afterward that had concerns but no recourse before.
And of the red flag laws, yes they can be abused. That is not consoling to those who loose innocent loved ones.
Rights? There were no cars in 1776. Airports yes, ... (
show quote)
If you want to get rid of 90% of gun crimes just confiscate all guns from blacks. that is at least 90%
gun crime.I'm sure crime won't go down in among blacks but at least it will slow it down.
Rose42 wrote:
Oh please. I’m not trying to ‘psych him out’. I’m calling him out. I could care less about how many characters this penny has. He goes overboard. Don’t follow him off the plank.
Now if I were going overboard I’d say you and Birdmam were albert’s sock puppets because you defended him. See how silly that is? Its entertaining though.
I know some of her identities here. She’s not that hard to spot.
Oh please. I’m not trying to ‘psych him out’. I’... (
show quote)
Yes, I can see how you would think it's entertaining....if you were Penny!! Isn't that a coincidence!!
You see how that goes? When you defend Penny, and you do it a lot, you look suspicious, That's all I'm saying. I don't know for sure if you ARE Penny or not, but some of the things you do and say to her and about her in her defense cause questions in the minds of us who are familiar - because we've known her for many years - to wonder why you do it so much.
zillaorange wrote:
FYI Technically a slingshot is an assault weapon.
There are quite a few people you can assault with a frying pan, too. And a baseball bat and hockey stick and motor scooter....there are so many "assault weapons" in the world, I'm surprised any of us are still alive!!
Jim0001
Loc: originally from Tennessee, now Virginia, USA
straightUp wrote:
I think there would be more people shot... Not sure if they would be shot dead though. The problem with a lot of people who are excited to arm themselves so they can be heroes is that they're often the type to panic or overreact.
When you get complete morons like Ted Cruz telling us that the solution to "protecting" children from shooters is to put schools under armed guards, like they do at the banks, what you are really getting is rhetoric designed to score points with equally moronic voters without regard for things like the fact that Republicans have been defunding schools for a long time now. So where are these underfunded schools going to find the money to pay for qualified guards?
Then there's the evidence that even when there ARE guards with guns, it has little impact. In Uvalde, they stood around outside while the killer hunted down his victims and about a week after Cruz made that idiot statement a shooter in KY killed several people... in a bank.
No, arming everyone is a really stupid idea. A better idea is to decrease the odds of anyone arming themselves with assault weapons, which would decrease their kill capacity.
Ban assault weapons! It's just basic common sense. Every developed nation except for us has already done this and none of them have the level of senseless killing that we do. No, it won't stop psychopaths from killing people (nothing will) but it WILL cut down on the casualties they inflict.
To those who still insist they need high capacity weapons to protect themselves, I have this to say... Grow some balls!
I think there would be more people shot... Not sur... (
show quote)
Can you shoot someone alive? If you shoot them dead isn't that the same as killing them. Such silly retoric.
American Vet wrote:
Ooooohhhh - I never thought of using a motor scoot... (
show quote)
Do bobbies ride them? If so, they carry big sticks, too....a
double assault weapon! 👍😁
LostAggie66
Loc: Corpus Christi, TX (Shire of Seawinds)
American Vet wrote:
I have to disagree with both the required training and red flag laws.
You adequately addressed the red flag issue.
However, apply the same standard to 'required training'. Blue state legislatures may enact regulations that require 80 hours of safety training and 100% on a 100 question written exam and range 100% accuracy on a fifty meter target every year. Thus essentially ending private ownership. That may sound extreme - but it is in the realm of possibility. Just look what New York mandated as to areas prohibiting concealed carry.
I have to disagree with both the required training... (
show quote)
What would you consider adequate training by Red state legislatures? I am curious because I am returning to Texas with my new wife and daughter in July. Maybe the same percentage of correct answers on the written drivers license test I think TX is 75% or better. Also is 50meters the standard military target range? (if so the last time I qualified was in AF Basic in 1974 and I did enough to pass.)
If you want to reply, then
register here. Registration is free and your account is created instantly, so you can post right away.