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The One Question Pro Abortionists Refuse To Anwer
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Feb 9, 2023 08:05:52   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
LogicallyRight wrote:
You really do have a problem with common sense and reasoning.


You don’t seem to understand anything outside of what you think.

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Feb 9, 2023 08:19:55   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
EmilyD wrote:
Here's a fun fact for you, Milosia2: It takes only one of those eggs and one of the man's sperm to make a whole, complete human being.

The quantity of eggs the woman has does not give her the authority to kill the baby that is formed from one of them just because she has more eggs!


I wasn’t implying that.
My point remains the same ,
They are her eggs.
Not yours ? Not a politicians , not a doctors .
Not Jesus’s, not the mailman ,
Or the FedEx driver.
They are her eggs. How they all wind up is still nobody’s business but Hers,
Anyone other than her has no right to decide when or where her eggs go .
This is the bottom line.
The arguments , discussions , overall back and forth is for naught.
Like trying to decide what vegetarians should eat , or trying to decide who is responsible for the destruction caused by gravity, it’s all moot.
It’s not Jesus’s business. Or Mohammed’s,
Or the Big Wheel in the Sky’s to decide anything.
Get a hobby .
Stop torturing yourself.
If you have Faith , put your trust into the next moment. As the world unfolds exactly as it should. The

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Feb 9, 2023 08:39:58   #
Liberty Tree
 
Milosia2 wrote:
You don’t seem to understand anything outside of what you think.


You do not seem to think about what you claim you understand.

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Feb 9, 2023 08:43:03   #
Liberty Tree
 
PeterS wrote:
Why does convenience matter? Does a woman have a right to control her own body...yes or no? I guess a better question to ask is why the rights of a fetus--even before it can viably live on its own--usurp all the rights of a woman?


You have never answered the original question and she is not just controlling her own body but also that of an innocent unborn child.

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Feb 9, 2023 10:07:15   #
Marty 2020 Loc: Banana Republic of Kalifornia
 
Liberals just don’t understand what the consequences are of unprotected sex. If you “make” it, you have to take “care” of it. Abortion is not taking “care” of it, it is eliminating it. Barbarically!
No compassion in the left! Only selfishness!

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Feb 9, 2023 11:47:33   #
maryla
 
Milosia2 wrote:
No .
Who would ?
The future is uncertain. To say it will be this or that is ludicrous.
It is a loss for the family. With preparations , doctor visits , prenatal care.etc.
No one can how the child will come out.
Or not,
As would it make a difference if the baby is a born crackhead ?
A woman gets 300,000 eggs. Does she really need to keep every one of them as a baby ?
Before you say it , I know the gestation period .
300,000 divided 9 = this won’t work .


Life for humans begins at conception Milosia and nothing said will be able to sway me from that belief! They have special ICU units for preemies. Do you know what you are writing? It makes no sense to me what you are spewing out...

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Feb 9, 2023 12:32:26   #
crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
Poor attempt to deny and deflect from your hypocrisy. There many more crisis pregnancy centers who provide services after birth than there are abortion clinics, but you libs want to burn them down.



PeterS throws these things at Christians a lot. This is the fourth or fifth time, as I recall. It’s a complete lie; there are multiple services among Christians for the poor. Even if there weren’t, abortion is certainly not the solution. That’s something out of Auschwitz.

Abortion is barbaric and those who support it are barbarians who have lost their souls. All human beings, including fetuses and people like PeterS are endowed with an inherent dignity that we have to respect, even though with abortion it is especially difficult & just about impossible when it comes to the abortionists who actually commit the horror.

Abortion flies in the face of all natural law & science yet liberals fancy themselves as the ones who are on the side of science & try to throw that in our faces, all the time. In fact, they are on the side of evil, Satan if you will.

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Feb 9, 2023 12:41:10   #
crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
 
PeterS wrote:
Legally. Morals are relative...even for you conservatives.




Morals are not relative. Rape, murder, and thievery are not relative.

Nor is the fact that the fetus/embryo is a genetically distinct entity. Refute that, I dare you to try.

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Feb 9, 2023 12:57:53   #
EmilyD
 
PeterS wrote:
Who knows that? You're the one assigning "a human baby" to a clump of cells that you conservatives deem a human baby but don't give a shit about once they are born. Then, the only thing you fine Christians care about is how to get them off YOUR tax rolls! But put them in a GD womb and you people shed crocodile tears from here to eternity. If you are going to force women to have children then you are going to have to provide services for those children once they are born. That means you are going to have to open your wallets and put your money where your mouth is something no conservative I've ever met is willing to do.

You guys are hypocrites when it comes to life. Don't you think a child shot with an AR-15 feels pain? That never stopped you conservatives from wanting to put them in the hands of every person in this country. Why does an 18-year-old mentally ill person need an AR-15? And still, no laws in a conservative lead state, or any state for that matter, to prevent one from buying one? And hell, suggest that we eliminate the problem altogether and you people want to start a war! Do you think that it makes a bit of difference to those children murdered with an AR-15 that they are "grieved over properly"? Where are you coming up with this crap...are you just throwing sh"t against the wall hoping that something might stick???
Who knows that? You're the one assigning "a h... (show quote)

There are a lot of people who agree that human life begins at conception. Obviously you didn't read the link and the snip I posted from it.....here it is again:

https://acpeds.org/position-statements/when-human-life-begins

Snip:

"Professor Emeritus of Human Embryology of the University of Arizona School of Medicine, Dr. C. Ward Kischer, affirms that “Every human embryologist, worldwide, states that the life of the new individual human being begins at fertilization (conception).” Even authors who philosophically lean towards not attributing the same value to human life at the one-cell stage as they do to later stages of development admit that “As far as human ‘life’ per se, it is, for the most part, uncontroversial among the scientific and philosophical community that life begins at the moment when the genetic information contained in the sperm and ovum combine to form a genetically unique cell."

Here's more from that link:

"The American College of Pediatricians concurs with the body of scientific evidence that corroborates that a unique human life starts when the sperm and egg bind to each other in a process of fusion of their respective membranes and a single hybrid cell called a zygote, or one-cell embryo, is created."

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Feb 9, 2023 13:07:43   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
crazylibertarian wrote:
Morals are not relative. Rape, murder, and thievery are not relative.

Nor is the fact that the fetus/embryo is a genetically distinct entity. Refute that, I dare you to try.


Leftists, ascribe to the doctrine of moral relativism. Unlike moral absolutists, moral relativists argue that good and bad are relative concepts – whether something is considered right or wrong can change depending on opinion, social context, culture or a number of other factors. The only moral absolute they follow is that there are no moral absolutes, hence abortion is only right or wrong based on your "feeling." Perhaps our best understanding of their philosophy is found the title of their own scripture. "50 Shades of Gray." It's notable that no society that ascribed to moral relativism ever survived.

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Feb 9, 2023 13:33:29   #
dwp66
 
Milosia2 wrote:
It’s a life granted . But more a potential life.
You can’t say what it will be.
And the facts remain the same.
It’s still none of your business.
If a woman wants to terminate Her pregnancy , it prerogative.
Not Yours .
If she wants to terminate because she can’t afford a child . But you think she should have it , you would immediately assume monetary responsibility.
She might have it then.
But you people font want to be involved . You only want to sit in your little catbird seats and complain of the awfulness of it all.
With your holier than thou hats casting aspersions on the poor lowly masses.
You’re all a joke.
It’s still none of your business.
Who has babies and who doesn’t is none of your concern .
Get a hobby .
Go find out my gravity keeps breaking everything , or whatever.
Just leave these women alone.
You are not more pious , or higher on any scale. You’re only fooling yourself into believing you are.
And yes , apparently we can have it both ways .
Because we already do.
Stay in your own canoe.
It’s a life granted . But more a potential life. b... (show quote)


Very good post and right on the money, Milosia2. I couldn't have said it any better! Instead of legislating for the good of our citizens, Republicans these days are far more concerned with culture wars, who can love or marry who, monitoring girl athletes' menstrual cycles, CRT, what defines a true "patriot", etc., etc. Don't like abortions? Then don't have one.

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Feb 9, 2023 13:42:02   #
dwp66
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
Would you be in favor of abolishing laws that allow a person to be charged with murder for causing the death of the unborn through a criminal act?


Liberty, don't you think a pregnant woman should be allowed to drive in the carpool lane alone? I mean , there's actually two in the car, right? A woman in Dallas got pulled over last year for this and guess what - she still got a ticket.

If a woman is three months pregnant and does something stupid that results in an accident, and the unexpected loss of her fetus, should she be charged with murder? Hmm?

I agree with Milosia2 - stay in your own canoe. Another woman's abortion is none of your freakin business, and never will be.

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Feb 9, 2023 13:45:05   #
EmilyD
 
PeterS wrote:
Why does convenience matter? Does a woman have a right to control her own body...yes or no? I guess a better question to ask is why the rights of a fetus--even before it can viably live on its own--usurp all the rights of a woman?


A woman has the right to control her body before she gets pregnant. Yes. She is alone and her medical decisions are her prerogative.

When a woman becomes pregnant, however, there is another body involved. She is no longer alone. It is NOT her "right" do do whatever she wants to THAT body. That's where the pro-life issue becomes significant....that baby has every right to live its life as the mother does (and as YOU do).

With today's technology, scientists can actually SEE a sperm meet an egg and what happens when it does. The biological makeup of the new cell that is formed is distinctly changed and clearly begins developing and growing within seconds.

This will only get better as time passes, and the argument that it's just a "blob of cells" will not hold water any more.

But go ahead and keep spewing the old arguments. You won't be able to deny that it is not a human being for much longer, though.

Another poster on OPP posted this poem a little while ago, and it really explains WHY we should not kill these people:



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Feb 9, 2023 13:57:05   #
vernon
 
LogicallyRight wrote:
YES.


Yes Yes

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Feb 9, 2023 14:03:34   #
EmilyD
 
Milosia2 wrote:
I wasn’t implying that.
My point remains the same ,
They are her eggs.
Not yours ? Not a politicians , not a doctors .
Not Jesus’s, not the mailman ,
Or the FedEx driver.
They are her eggs. How they all wind up is still nobody’s business but Hers,
Anyone other than her has no right to decide when or where her eggs go .
This is the bottom line.
The arguments , discussions , overall back and forth is for naught.
Like trying to decide what vegetarians should eat , or trying to decide who is responsible for the destruction caused by gravity, it’s all moot.
It’s not Jesus’s business. Or Mohammed’s,
Or the Big Wheel in the Sky’s to decide anything.
Get a hobby .
Stop torturing yourself.
If you have Faith , put your trust into the next moment. As the world unfolds exactly as it should. The
I wasn’t implying that. br My point remains the sa... (show quote)

They are NOT hers and they are not "just eggs"....they are potential unique human beings in their own right - we are just here to be their protectors and providers until they are ready to do that for themselves.....read the poem I just posted by Kahlil Gibran above.....THAT is why the baby does not belong to anyone but itself.

You are not faithful, so you won't relate to this, but the baby is God's and His alone. He creates them and he takes their life back when it is finished. We are just part of His plan to have the human race reproduce itself...

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