PeterS

Legally. Morals are relative...even for you conservatives.

Marty 2020 Loc: Banana Republic of Kalifornia

A fetus can feel pain, and is a person. Not born yet, but still a person. If I thought like you, then I could just go down the street to the black drug dealer and stick a rod into his brains and say it’s just a late term a******n.

PeterS

Why does convenience matter? Does a woman have a right to control her own body...yes or no? I guess a better question to ask is why the rights of a fetus--even before it can viably live on its own--usurp all the rights of a woman?

Marty 2020 Loc: Banana Republic of Kalifornia

Because it is a person, that’s why. That woman gave up her right to choose the moment she gave up her right to say no.
If you don’t say NO
You can’t say DIE.

PeterS

Children shot with an AR-15 feel pain too but it doesn't make you conservatives seek any changes to gun laws so I don't see how "pain" means anything simply because it's an a******n. And the rest of what you wrote isn't worth a response...

PeterS

What does saying yes or no have to do with anything? Are you saying you are in favor of an a******n if it's rape or incest? Be careful with our answer cuz a fetus that is the result of rape and incest feels pain too!

And a little side question here--what rights did the guy give up when he promised he would 'pull out' before he came? I promise sweetheart, I promise. Does he lose his right to control his body too?

AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State

You walked into it. You bring up viability. Does that mean you would support a restriction on a******n if the fetus has reached viability status (24-25 weeks)?

AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State

Still no response to my question.

PeterS

I walked into what? In Texas that's what the old law read...and no, I have no problem with the old law.

EmilyD

64 MILLION of them??

PeterS

Yeah, and how many before we started counting? My problem with this topic is that no one cared before RvW. It was all out of sight out of mind. Those who could afford it went to the hospital and had a "procedure" and those who couldn't take their chances with a back ally a******nist. And people such as yourself went on and didn't even give a s**t. But suddenly RvW comes around and oh boy, now you care. We all have the right to control our own bodies...even you women. Men have always taken the right to control their own bodies while women have been slowet to catch on. Eliminate a******ns and more women will use items such as Plan-B. Are you going to start counting how many Plan-B's are sold? Is that going to be how many a******ns we have now? In many ways, it's better this way. A******ns go back into the closet and people like you can pretend that they no longer exist. So be happy in your ignorance...may it serve you well.

PeterS

Who knows that? You're the one assigning "a human baby" to a clump of cells that you conservatives deem a human baby but don't give a s**t about once they are born. Then, the only thing you fine Christians care about is how to get them off YOUR tax rolls! But put them in a GD womb and you people shed crocodile tears from here to eternity. If you are going to force women to have children then you are going to have to provide services for those children once they are born. That means you are going to have to open your wallets and put your money where your mouth is something no conservative I've ever met is willing to do.

You guys are hypocrites when it comes to life. Don't you think a child shot with an AR-15 feels pain? That never stopped you conservatives from wanting to put them in the hands of every person in this country. Why does an 18-year-old mentally ill person need an AR-15? And still, no laws in a conservative lead state, or any state for that matter, to prevent one from buying one? And hell, suggest that we eliminate the problem altogether and you people want to start a war! Do you think that it makes a bit of difference to those children murdered with an AR-15 that they are "grieved over properly"? Where are you coming up with this crap...are you just throwing sh"t against the wall hoping that something might stick???

crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island

It is a law in many states that allows just that. It used to be in California although that may have changed under the current i***t.

Smedley_buzkill

Not if it's retroactive and applied to you.

Liberty Tree

Poor attempt to deny and deflect from your hypocrisy. There many more crisis pregnancy centers who provide services after birth than there are a******n clinics, but you libs want to burn them down.