Muslims Are Very Much The Same As Christians, They Share Belief If Not What They Believe (Page 2): Some Christians.. Not all... And Jews don't believe Jesus is God either... Are you...

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Parky60 wrote:

Christians believe that Jesus Christ is God. Muslims do not.

Some Christians..
Not all...
And Jews don't believe Jesus is God either...
Are you seriously ignorant enough to claim that Jews don't worship the same God as Christians???
Wouldn't surprise me if you are...

manning5 Loc: Richmond, VA

Canuckus Deploracus wrote:

Some Christians..
Not all...
And Jews don't believe Jesus is God either...
Are you seriously ignorant enough to claim that Jews don't worship the same God as Christians???
Wouldn't surprise me if you are...

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Muslims may or may not believe in the same God, or they simply modify the Abrahamic God concept to fit their predilections to jihad against Christians and other infidels, to believe in all sorts of shariah penalties, vaginal mutilations, and seriously believe in forcing the world into Islam. And each sect of Islam has a somewhat different set of beliefs and tenets, but the Koran is their bible, and is considered to be the sacred word of Muhammad, the Messenger of God. He has not quite the same provenance as Jesus...
For many years now the Koran's beautiful, and spiritual suras have been abrogated by their clerics, leave mainly the warlike suras to guide the faithful.

[Don't read back to me the Old Testament where God was very judgmental, harsh and even vicious. And the history of the inquisition is horrible, but buried in the past now.]

Jesus confirmed God's plans, but most certainly softened the message.

Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois

Canuckus Deploracus wrote:

Some Christians..
Not all.

If you don't believe that Jesus is God, you're not a Christian.

Canuckus Deploracus wrote:

... And Jews don't believe Jesus is God either...

And most Jews, like most Gentiles, are lost and destined for hell because of it. The Jews won't come to realize that Jesus is their Messiah until the end of Daniel's 70th week. Like I said, why don't you wipe that foot of dust off your bible and take some time and read it asking the Holy Spirit for guidance and discernment.

Canuckus Deploracus wrote:

Are you seriously ignorant enough to claim that Jews don't worship the same God as Christians???

There you go putting words in my mouth again.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

manning5 wrote:

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Once again, Islam doesn't consider Christians to be infidels... The term is reserved for people who don't worship God..

Vaginal mutilation is also not a part of Islam.. It's a cultural phenomenon practiced in parts of sun Saharan Africa...Christians on those areas also practice it...

The Koran is not considered to be the sacred word of Mohammed...It is considered to be God's word that was related through Mohammed... The Hadith are the teachings of Mohammed...

I understand your aversion to the OT... Most Christians don't care to be reminded of who God is...

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Parky60 wrote:

There you go putting words in my mouth again.

Muslims don't think Jesus is God therefore they don't worship God!!!
Jews are different!!!!

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Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois

Canuckus Deploracus wrote:

Muslims don't think Jesus is God therefore they don't worship God!!!
Jews are different!!!!

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I keep on forgetting that you're a Unitarian and you interpret the bible the way you WANT it to be.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Parky60 wrote:

I keep on forgetting that you're a Unitarian and you interpret the bible the way you WANT it to be.

You mean by reading it and taking its words at face value...

Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois

Canuckus Deploracus wrote:

You mean by reading it and taking its words at face value...

No, you don't do that.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

woodguru wrote:

Muslims have the same exact type of adversarial attitude toward non believers of their beliefs, they call christians infidel dogs...what and how do christians refer to muslims as?

Muslims have no regard for women, don't want them educated or working in leadership roles, hard line christians seem to believe that staying home and having babies is the woman's role in life.

Do you have credible evidence of Christian terror groups operating in 128 countries around the globe, beheading Muslims, Jews, and others who reject Christ, hanging homosexuals, burning children alive in iron cages, mutilating the genitals of their female children, destroying mosques, gunning down people in airports or malls or hotels, committing suicide bombings, and generally raising Hell?

Do you know of a Christian nation that sponsors terror groups, trains them, arms them, teaches their children to hate?
Is there a Christian nation that publicly beheads adulterous women and condones honor killings?

manning5 Loc: Richmond, VA

Canuckus Deploracus wrote:

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Do I have to go to my Koran to prove that Islam calls Christians infidels? The Hadith was the ramblings of Muhammad and are secondary to the Koran. The People of the
Book are given some dispensation, but they are fundamentally infidels.

Again. Muhammad was the Messenger of God, and it is the word of Muhannad that expresses what he thought to be the word of God, so the faithful follow Muhammad's words, as interpreted by him, not directly from God in fact. And many Imams decided to issue Fatwas that alter his words or perhaps extend them.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Canuckus Deploracus wrote:

You mean by reading it and taking its words at face value...

And, there's the rub.

Face value doesn't cut it.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

manning5 wrote:

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Do I have to go to my Koran to prove that Islam calls Christians infidels? The Hadith was the ramblings of Muhammad and are secondary to the Koran. The People of the
Book are given some dispensation, but they are fundamentally infidels.

The people of the book are not infidels...
There's a literal distinction made...
Muslims can marry Christians and Jews, they can't marry infidels...
Feel free to go to the Koran...

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

manning5 wrote:

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The words of Mohammed the messenger and the words of Mohammed the prophet are treated differently...
Words that come from the Messenger are from God Himself...
Words that come from the prophet are seen as teachings that should be emulated...

manning5 Loc: Richmond, VA

Blade_Runner wrote:

And, there's the rub.

Face value doesn't cut it.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Blade_Runner wrote:

And, there's the rub.

Face value doesn't cut it.

Not for a Trinitarian ..
Without mangling the hell out of those words there would be no way to support that stance...