permafrost wrote:
your attempt at finding support is useless. I was asked for MY thoughts and I gave them.
Your attempts at giving thoughts are beyond useless.
The last word in your first sentence is an accurate self-description.
permafrost wrote:
OK,,, again.. the fetus does not become a human until god bestows the breath of life..
Look back, I have said the same thing about 100 times..
So you think a baby is an expendable mass of living tissue until they take their first breath?? Before that, we can hack them into pieces even though they could be sectioned out and breath on their own, eyes open, absorbing the world, listening and learning? You really think that? Your own grand children, unborn, you'd be ok with hacking them to death at that point??
Zemirah wrote:
Ferrous,
You didn't state the source of your claim that 108,000 babies are born in the US annually, but it is way too low...
In 2018 (the last year CDC has provided full statistical data), we had 3.791 million babies born in the USA. That translates into a birth rate of 11.6 births per 1000 people.
CDC provides data about the number of births, mothersโ age... the original document:
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr68/nvsr68_13-508.pdfThe United States Population 2022 (Live) Show Source United States Population Clock Net increase of 1 person every 17 seconds.
https://www.census.gov/popclock/ shows current 2022 population: 332,702,396.
Divided by 1,000 = 332,702 x 11.6 = 3,859,343 babies born in U.S. this year.
20% of them on formula = 771,868.6 x 2 years =
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You forgot about the 10 million illegal babies
Ferrous
Loc: Pacific North Coast, CA
Zemirah wrote:
Ferrous,
You didn't state the source of your claim that 108,000 babies are born in the US annually, but it is way too low...
In 2018 (the last year CDC has provided full statistical data), we had 3.791 million babies born in the USA. That translates into a birth rate of 11.6 births per 1000 people.
CDC provides data about the number of births, mothersโ age... the original document:
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr68/nvsr68_13-508.pdfThe United States Population 2022 (Live) Show Source United States Population Clock Net increase of 1 person every 17 seconds.
https://www.census.gov/popclock/ shows current 2022 population: 332,702,396.
Divided by 1,000 = 332,702 x 11.6 = 3,859,343 babies born in U.S. this year.
20% of them on formula = 771,868.6 x 2 years =
1,542,737 babies currently on formula.Ferrous, br br You didn't state the source of yo... (
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Thanks, Zemirah for the correction. I had misread the chart claiming about 9,000 births per month, the actual chart stated by the day.
The correction using my new numbers is 9,000 x 365 days = 3,285,000 births a year
19.2% of 3,285,000 x 2 years of births = 1,261,440 infants on formula not counting toddlers with special needs
Our numbers are more in tune. Thanks for the heads up.
So the new equation is:
1,261,000 infants using about 1.75 lbs a day 2,206,750 lbs a day. (about 1,103.375 tons @ day) WOW!!!
using your numbers:
1,542,737 x 1.75 lbs = 2,699,790 lbs @ day (about 1,500 tons @ day) Dear God. that 78 tons that Biden was patting himself on the back for wouldn't last a few hours
I still think that Biden and the Dims best solution to this problem is to call in Trump to get things solved.
Ferrous
Loc: Pacific North Coast, CA
Birdmam wrote:
You forgot about the 10 million illegal babies
I didn't forget, it's just that the numbers are hard to verify... This year the CBP estimates that there will be over 2,000,000 illegal entries in 2022.
That would mean that 11.6% for the 4,000,000 illegals for both 2021 & 2022 would be about 344,827.
19.2% of 344,827 = include an additional 66206 infants using 1.75 lbs @ day
another 33 tons of baby formula each day. That would mean that that one plane could handle about 2 days of formula for illegal infants. All paid by us the taxpayers for the States WIC Programs
All of these numbers are low estimates since we don't really have real numbers telling us how many illegals are entering our country... and the CBP are expecting more surges if and when Biden gets to terminate Title 42
Ferrous
Loc: Pacific North Coast, CA
Birdmam wrote:
You forgot about the 10 million illegal babies
The babies are not illegal if born on US soil... 14th Amendment where the derogatory term "Anchor Baby" came from.
The numbers didn't include infants and toddlers brought over by their illegal parents that are still using Baby Formula.
What I am saying is that the way permafrost started this thread with cheering Biden and the democrats for doing something and the rest of us just ranting about it
(quote) BREAKING: BRAVO!๐๐๐ โThe first flights of infant formula from Europe, authorized by President Biden to relieve a deepening U.S. shortage, will arrive in Indiana aboard military aircraft this weekend, the White House announced Friday.
Democrats once again fixing the problem. Not simply ranting about it. (end quote)
Which my 1st reply was "Bullshit"
Ferrous wrote:
Which my 1st reply was "Bullshit"
For those of us living in a world of reality - who can see clearly, your 1st response is technically correct!
Ferrous wrote:
The babies are not illegal if born on US soil... 14th Amendment where the derogatory term "Anchor Baby" came from.
The numbers didn't include infants and toddlers brought over by their illegal parents that are still using Baby Formula.
What I am saying is that the way permafrost started this thread with cheering Biden and the democrats for doing something and the rest of us just ranting about it
(quote) BREAKING: BRAVO!๐๐๐ โThe first flights of infant formula from Europe, authorized by President Biden to relieve a deepening U.S. shortage, will arrive in Indiana aboard military aircraft this weekend, the White House announced Friday.
Democrats once again fixing the problem. Not simply ranting about it. (end quote)
Which my 1st reply was "Bullshit"
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Birdmam wrote:
You forgot about the 10 million illegal babies
I didn't forget them. I simply don't know how to possibly compute them.
I'm sure there have been many more illegals admitted and either bused or flown throughout the U.S. than are being acknowledged by the Biden regime.
permafrost wrote:
I can not agree with PR.. the problem is defined as NO PRODUCT... When Biden and buddies find a way to expedite delivering that product... That is with no doubt fixing te problem..
And, I am darn happy to see that it is arriving in the US and is likely already on the shelves of some outlets..
Dimbot dems caused the problem in the first place.
permafrost wrote:
OK,,, again.. the fetus does not become a human until god bestows the breath of life..
Look back, I have said the same thing about 100 times..
You think an unborn child is not alive?
PeterS wrote:
The whole purpose of conservativism is to blame democrats for everything that goes wrong...not solve problems. That, and claim credit for everything that goes right, real or imagined.
Sounds familiar, I remember listening to the Dems blaming Trump for everything that happened for 5 years and still counting, cause apparently, Trump should be responsible for all things, rather started under his admin or Obama's, but Joe and the Dems should only take responsibility for getting baby formula to America after their agency f**ked up to begin with!
JR-57
Loc: South Carolina
Zemirah wrote:
I didn't forget them. I simply don't know how to possibly compute them.
I'm sure there have been many more illegals admitted and either bused or flown throughout the U.S. than are being acknowledged by the Biden regime.
Letโs not forget the number of those that enter undetected.
permafrost wrote:
Darn right Pete.. I can not recall the right wingers even proposing any kind of solution or policy...
but they sure do complain... stand for nothing, like nothing.. gee what a conundrum....
Actually us "right wingers" were screaming to open the plant back up but that wouldn't be a solution for Dems and questioning why it took this long for the public to know about the problem wasn't allowed. After all, that just confirms this admins incompetence".
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