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Feb 22, 2022 13:40:51   #
Ri-chard Loc: 23322
 
336Robin wrote:
Interesting development. Does Joe Biden become the hero for averting war between Russia and the Ukraine?

He is on an even keel and I see him being instrumental while Donnie Boy is home losing it.

I wonder if the Top Secret documents Trump took to Mara Lago said anything about it!


Reuters
Biden agrees in principle to Ukraine summit with Putin
Sun, February 20, 2022, 5:53 AM

(Reuters) -U.S. President Joe Biden and Russian President Vladimir Putin have agreed in principle to a summit over Ukraine, the French leader said on Monday, offering a possible path out of one of the most dangerous European crises in decades.

Financial markets edged higher on the glimmer of hope for a diplomatic solution even as satellite imagery appeared to show Russian deployments closer to Ukraine's border, while sounds of fighting were heard on Monday in the east, where Ukrainian government forces are fighting pro-Russian separatists.

The office of French President Emmanuel Macron said in a statement he had pitched to both leaders a summit on "security and strategic stability in Europe." In a statement, the White House said Biden had accepted the meeting "in principle" but only "if an invasion hasn't happened".

"We are always ready for diplomacy," White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki said. "We are also ready to impose swift and severe consequences, should Russia instead choose war."

Messages seeking comment from the Kremlin and the office of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy were not immediately returned early on Monday.

Few details of the proposed summit, announced after a volley of phone calls between Macron, Biden, Putin, Zelenskiy, and British Prime Minister Boris Johnson, are clear.

Macron's office and the White House said the substance of the plan would be worked out by U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken and Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov during their meeting planned for Feb. 24.

What role Ukraine would play in the summit, if any, was also uncertain.

A Biden administration official said in an email that the summit was "completely notional" as the timing and format had yet to be determined.

EU foreign policy chief Josep Borrell said there was a pressing need for talks to avoid war, while Germany said Russia should come back to the negotiating table.

While oil prices fell, Asian share markets pared losses and Wall Street futures rallied on news of the possible summit, Michael McFaul, a former U.S. ambassador to Russia, said he was sceptical it would happen.

"But if Biden and Putin did meet, they should invite (Zelenskiy) to join," he said in a message posted on Twitter.

News of Macron's proposal comes after a week of heightened tension spurred by Russia's military buildup.

Russian forces have been massing around its neighbour since late last year, in what Western countries say is a prelude to an invasion that could come at any moment.

Russia denies any intention to invade, but nerves were further frayed when the Belarusian defence ministry announced that Russia would extend military drills in Belarus that had been due to end on Sunday.

U.S.-based satellite imagery company Maxar reported multiple new deployments of Russian military units in forests, farms, and industrial areas as little as 15 km (9 miles) from the border with Ukraine.

On Sunday, Blinken said the extension of the exercises in Belarus, bordering Ukraine to the north, made him more worried that Russia was on the brink of an attack and every opportunity had to be taken to get diplomacy to work.

Belarus said Russian troops would go home from the exercises when there was "an objective need" to do so, the Interfax news agency said.

In a letter to U.N. human rights chief Michelle Bachelet, seen by Reuters, the United States raised concern that "further Russian invasion of Ukraine may create a human rights catastrophe", including the possible rounding up and killing of opponents.

SPORADIC SHELLING

Sporadic shelling across the line dividing Ukrainian government forces and pro-Russian separatists in the east has intensified since Thursday.

Sounds of fighting were heard again on Monday, including a blast in the centre of the separatist-held city of Donetsk. The cause was not known.

The rebels said two civilians were killed in shelling by Kyiv government forces, Russia's RIA news agency said. Russian media reported 61,000 evacuees from east Ukraine had crossed into Russia.

Kyiv has accused pro-Russian forces of shelling their own compatriots in the breakaway region in order to blame the attacks on Ukrainian government forces.

Western countries are preparing sanctions they say would be wide-reaching against Russian companies and individuals in case of an invasion, including steps to bar U.S. financial institutions from processing transactions for major Russian banks, people familiar with the matter said.

British Prime Minister Boris Johnson told the BBC such measures could include curbs on Russian businesses' access to the dollar and the pound.

European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen told German broadcaster ARD that Russia "would in principle be cut off from the international financial markets" and from major European exports.

Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba said it was time for the West to impose at least part of the sanctions it has prepared, but the Biden administration has declined to do so, saying their deterrent effect would be lost if used too soon.

(Reporting by Reuters bureaux; Writing by Raphael Satter and Stephen Coates; Editing by Robert Birsel and Clarence Fernandez)
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Joke time again. Biden needs a war he's running out of other people's money. He has to support the Dark Military, and Security Industrial Complex that Eisenhower and JFK warned us of. Plus, he must hurt the European people with energy to help the New World Order be activated.

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Feb 22, 2022 13:48:09   #
Turtle keeper
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Putin needs that pipeline, badly.


Germany has shut that pipeline down already.

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Feb 22, 2022 14:03:40   #
Ri-chard Loc: 23322
 
Turtle keeper wrote:
Germany has shut that pipeline down already.


Go Milosia2

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Feb 22, 2022 14:36:31   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
336Robin wrote:
Putin is after something and there are several scenarios he could be playing.

One is he is done with Donnie and now he could hang him out to dry. The other is anyones best guess but he is recognizing to areas of the Ukraine as independent territories. He is looking a bit unhinged but he is a smart man he is up to something.


Let me know if you ever get a life without Trump living rent free in your otherwise empty head.

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Feb 22, 2022 15:01:21   #
Ri-chard Loc: 23322
 
Smedley_buzkill wrote:
Let me know if you ever get a life without Trump living rent free in your otherwise empty head.


This turd you are responding to doesn't s-it about European history.
European adults don't think Russia are the bad guys.
The vast majority of mixed Ukrainian population of any ethnicity see themselves as Russian, they speak Russian and are immersed in Russian culture as Ukraine is a historical illegal non-entity, much like Israel squatting in Occupied Palestine.
All recent public polls indicate over 75% support for reunification with Mother Russia. Russia saved them from the Nazis in WWII. These are principles steeped in history and non-negotiable for Russian populace. People familiar with the region will know Biden and other western aggressive meddling and control over a weak Jew Zionist controlled puppet government in Kiev will not be palatable to Russians and large parts of Ukrainian population linked to Russia with mixed ancestry. These bad guys are the phony Zionist Jews like the ones that are in France.
If some solution based on these or comparable elements are not achieved, the drift toward confrontation will accelerate with Biden not minding his own business. The only people baying for Slavic blood are Anglo Jew-Zionist warmongers. And Biden claims himself to be a Zionist.

This very bad shit hopes for you guys get rid of the whole Biden family

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Feb 22, 2022 15:16:14   #
WEBCO
 
336Robin wrote:
Interesting development. Does Joe Biden become the hero for averting war between Russia and the Ukraine?

He is on an even keel and I see him being instrumental while Donnie Boy is home losing it.

I wonder if the Top Secret documents Trump took to Mara Lago said anything about it!


Reuters
Biden agrees in principle to Ukraine summit with Putin
Sun, February 20, 2022, 5:53 AM

(Reuters) -U.S. President Joe Biden and Russian President Vladimir Putin have agreed in principle to a summit over Ukraine, the French leader said on Monday, offering a possible path out of one of the most dangerous European crises in decades.

Financial markets edged higher on the glimmer of hope for a diplomatic solution even as satellite imagery appeared to show Russian deployments closer to Ukraine's border, while sounds of fighting were heard on Monday in the east, where Ukrainian government forces are fighting pro-Russian separatists.

The office of French President Emmanuel Macron said in a statement he had pitched to both leaders a summit on "security and strategic stability in Europe." In a statement, the White House said Biden had accepted the meeting "in principle" but only "if an invasion hasn't happened".

"We are always ready for diplomacy," White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki said. "We are also ready to impose swift and severe consequences, should Russia instead choose war."

Messages seeking comment from the Kremlin and the office of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy were not immediately returned early on Monday.

Few details of the proposed summit, announced after a volley of phone calls between Macron, Biden, Putin, Zelenskiy, and British Prime Minister Boris Johnson, are clear.

Macron's office and the White House said the substance of the plan would be worked out by U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken and Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov during their meeting planned for Feb. 24.

What role Ukraine would play in the summit, if any, was also uncertain.

A Biden administration official said in an email that the summit was "completely notional" as the timing and format had yet to be determined.

EU foreign policy chief Josep Borrell said there was a pressing need for talks to avoid war, while Germany said Russia should come back to the negotiating table.

While oil prices fell, Asian share markets pared losses and Wall Street futures rallied on news of the possible summit, Michael McFaul, a former U.S. ambassador to Russia, said he was sceptical it would happen.

"But if Biden and Putin did meet, they should invite (Zelenskiy) to join," he said in a message posted on Twitter.

News of Macron's proposal comes after a week of heightened tension spurred by Russia's military buildup.

Russian forces have been massing around its neighbour since late last year, in what Western countries say is a prelude to an invasion that could come at any moment.

Russia denies any intention to invade, but nerves were further frayed when the Belarusian defence ministry announced that Russia would extend military drills in Belarus that had been due to end on Sunday.

U.S.-based satellite imagery company Maxar reported multiple new deployments of Russian military units in forests, farms, and industrial areas as little as 15 km (9 miles) from the border with Ukraine.

On Sunday, Blinken said the extension of the exercises in Belarus, bordering Ukraine to the north, made him more worried that Russia was on the brink of an attack and every opportunity had to be taken to get diplomacy to work.

Belarus said Russian troops would go home from the exercises when there was "an objective need" to do so, the Interfax news agency said.

In a letter to U.N. human rights chief Michelle Bachelet, seen by Reuters, the United States raised concern that "further Russian invasion of Ukraine may create a human rights catastrophe", including the possible rounding up and killing of opponents.

SPORADIC SHELLING

Sporadic shelling across the line dividing Ukrainian government forces and pro-Russian separatists in the east has intensified since Thursday.

Sounds of fighting were heard again on Monday, including a blast in the centre of the separatist-held city of Donetsk. The cause was not known.

The rebels said two civilians were killed in shelling by Kyiv government forces, Russia's RIA news agency said. Russian media reported 61,000 evacuees from east Ukraine had crossed into Russia.

Kyiv has accused pro-Russian forces of shelling their own compatriots in the breakaway region in order to blame the attacks on Ukrainian government forces.

Western countries are preparing sanctions they say would be wide-reaching against Russian companies and individuals in case of an invasion, including steps to bar U.S. financial institutions from processing transactions for major Russian banks, people familiar with the matter said.

British Prime Minister Boris Johnson told the BBC such measures could include curbs on Russian businesses' access to the dollar and the pound.

European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen told German broadcaster ARD that Russia "would in principle be cut off from the international financial markets" and from major European exports.

Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba said it was time for the West to impose at least part of the sanctions it has prepared, but the Biden administration has declined to do so, saying their deterrent effect would be lost if used too soon.

(Reporting by Reuters bureaux; Writing by Raphael Satter and Stephen Coates; Editing by Robert Birsel and Clarence Fernandez)
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You are a little late with this, Putin already turned him down. The lefts attempt at boosting Bidens pole numbers will also fail over this "show of force" by Biden. Once again he has shown that he's a follower and NOT leader...never has been, never will be.

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Feb 22, 2022 16:46:29   #
bylm1-Bernie
 
WEBCO wrote:
You are a little late with this, Putin already turned him down. The lefts attempt at boosting Bidens pole numbers will also fail over this "show of force" by Biden. Once again he has shown that he's a follower and NOT leader...never has been, never will be.


Most of us can clearly see that.

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Feb 22, 2022 17:43:38   #
Radiance3
 
336Robin wrote:
Interesting development. Does Joe Biden become the hero for averting war between Russia and the Ukraine?

He is on an even keel and I see him being instrumental while Donnie Boy is home losing it.

I wonder if the Top Secret documents Trump took to Mara Lago said anything about it!


Reuters
Biden agrees in principle to Ukraine summit with Putin
Sun, February 20, 2022, 5:53 AM

(Reuters) -U.S. President Joe Biden and Russian President Vladimir Putin have agreed in principle to a summit over Ukraine, the French leader said on Monday, offering a possible path out of one of the most dangerous European crises in decades.

Financial markets edged higher on the glimmer of hope for a diplomatic solution even as satellite imagery appeared to show Russian deployments closer to Ukraine's border, while sounds of fighting were heard on Monday in the east, where Ukrainian government forces are fighting pro-Russian separatists.

The office of French President Emmanuel Macron said in a statement he had pitched to both leaders a summit on "security and strategic stability in Europe." In a statement, the White House said Biden had accepted the meeting "in principle" but only "if an invasion hasn't happened".

"We are always ready for diplomacy," White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki said. "We are also ready to impose swift and severe consequences, should Russia instead choose war."

Messages seeking comment from the Kremlin and the office of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy were not immediately returned early on Monday.

Few details of the proposed summit, announced after a volley of phone calls between Macron, Biden, Putin, Zelenskiy, and British Prime Minister Boris Johnson, are clear.

Macron's office and the White House said the substance of the plan would be worked out by U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken and Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov during their meeting planned for Feb. 24.

What role Ukraine would play in the summit, if any, was also uncertain.

A Biden administration official said in an email that the summit was "completely notional" as the timing and format had yet to be determined.

EU foreign policy chief Josep Borrell said there was a pressing need for talks to avoid war, while Germany said Russia should come back to the negotiating table.

While oil prices fell, Asian share markets pared losses and Wall Street futures rallied on news of the possible summit, Michael McFaul, a former U.S. ambassador to Russia, said he was sceptical it would happen.

"But if Biden and Putin did meet, they should invite (Zelenskiy) to join," he said in a message posted on Twitter.

News of Macron's proposal comes after a week of heightened tension spurred by Russia's military buildup.

Russian forces have been massing around its neighbour since late last year, in what Western countries say is a prelude to an invasion that could come at any moment.

Russia denies any intention to invade, but nerves were further frayed when the Belarusian defence ministry announced that Russia would extend military drills in Belarus that had been due to end on Sunday.

U.S.-based satellite imagery company Maxar reported multiple new deployments of Russian military units in forests, farms, and industrial areas as little as 15 km (9 miles) from the border with Ukraine.

On Sunday, Blinken said the extension of the exercises in Belarus, bordering Ukraine to the north, made him more worried that Russia was on the brink of an attack and every opportunity had to be taken to get diplomacy to work.

Belarus said Russian troops would go home from the exercises when there was "an objective need" to do so, the Interfax news agency said.

In a letter to U.N. human rights chief Michelle Bachelet, seen by Reuters, the United States raised concern that "further Russian invasion of Ukraine may create a human rights catastrophe", including the possible rounding up and killing of opponents.

SPORADIC SHELLING

Sporadic shelling across the line dividing Ukrainian government forces and pro-Russian separatists in the east has intensified since Thursday.

Sounds of fighting were heard again on Monday, including a blast in the centre of the separatist-held city of Donetsk. The cause was not known.

The rebels said two civilians were killed in shelling by Kyiv government forces, Russia's RIA news agency said. Russian media reported 61,000 evacuees from east Ukraine had crossed into Russia.

Kyiv has accused pro-Russian forces of shelling their own compatriots in the breakaway region in order to blame the attacks on Ukrainian government forces.

Western countries are preparing sanctions they say would be wide-reaching against Russian companies and individuals in case of an invasion, including steps to bar U.S. financial institutions from processing transactions for major Russian banks, people familiar with the matter said.

British Prime Minister Boris Johnson told the BBC such measures could include curbs on Russian businesses' access to the dollar and the pound.

European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen told German broadcaster ARD that Russia "would in principle be cut off from the international financial markets" and from major European exports.

Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba said it was time for the West to impose at least part of the sanctions it has prepared, but the Biden administration has declined to do so, saying their deterrent effect would be lost if used too soon.

(Reporting by Reuters bureaux; Writing by Raphael Satter and Stephen Coates; Editing by Robert Birsel and Clarence Fernandez)
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Stopped war? Russia has already started the war. Biden gave Russia lots of money for buying its oil. Now, Russia has lots of money to fund its war.

How stupid, if Trump is president, this war will never happen. He is a very effective leader who could motivate enemies to be in peace. During his administration, there never was any impending war cause Trump aside from building US strength had great relations with all countries. Putin, China, and NK were all under control. Now these countries have taken advantage of the weakness and dumbness of FJB.

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Feb 22, 2022 18:24:54   #
the waker Loc: 11th freest nation
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Putin needs that pipeline, badly.


Really?
Why?
Is someone else going to supply natural gas to Europe?
Russia's economy is not dependant on the world economy.
Unlike our debt notes, Russia has an actual Treasury. Russia has been heavily buying gold for a decade now.

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Feb 22, 2022 18:48:04   #
Holdenbeach4u Loc: Holden Beach , NC
 
Biden is a big disappointment of the whole world including USA !
I would Grade Biden (-F)

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Feb 22, 2022 20:00:17   #
bylm1-Bernie
 
Holdenbeach4u wrote:
Biden is a big disappointment of the whole world including USA !
I would Grade Biden (-F)


Very fair grading.

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Feb 22, 2022 20:33:33   #
martsiva
 
nonalien1 wrote:
Two areas in the east want to be Independent territories and Putin is protecting them . If Ukraine won't let them separate Putin will back them. He already has troops over there as peace keepers while thousands are immigrating to Russia.


Yes they are but has anyone noticed that all those opposing the Crimea incident don`t give a damn what the people of Crimea wanted which was to be part of Russia again!!

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Feb 22, 2022 20:53:48   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
nonalien1 wrote:
Two areas in the east want to be Independent territories and Putin is protecting them . If Ukraine won't let them separate Putin will back them. He already has troops over there as peace keepers while thousands are immigrating to Russia.


You are right and I was missing that while looking at the overall picture. Now it looks like he did. And interesting turn of events.

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Feb 22, 2022 20:57:23   #
Holdenbeach4u Loc: Holden Beach , NC
 
Changing the subject !
The USA is buying oil from Russia at a much higher price . Biden has almost shut down USA energy systems like ;
Keystone Pipe line ,estimated 80% of Shale Oil on Government Lands , and others too!

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Feb 22, 2022 22:44:08   #
Radiance3
 
Ri-chard wrote:
Joke time again. Biden needs a war he's running out of other people's money. He has to support the Dark Military, and Security Industrial Complex that Eisenhower and JFK warned us of. Plus, he must hurt the European people with energy to help the New World Order be activated.

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Biden created this Russia-Ukraine war. He has empowered Russia as well as China. The oil supplies we bought from Russia allowed Putin to save billions of dollars to fund his war.

Biden closed our oil and gas supplies, and closed the XL Pipeline on his 1st day in office. Then bought oil from Russia and the Arab countries. How dumb and stupid was that. empowering the enemies of our country.

Biden's influence peddling thru his son in China selling our secrets which made China now ahead of the US in the economy, the military, and technology. Biden won't even confront China for the Covid19 purposely spread by China to the US and to the world with the intention or weakening the US.

Russia and China is taking advantage of the weaknesses of FJB. How could we survive like this for 3 more years? One year alone Biden has damaged our country so much.

As if I will scream , I am so upset of Biden who stole the election from Donald Trump. Fact is president Trump is the real president, had it not been stolen from him.

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