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Feb 26, 2022 12:25:58   #
Ri-chard Loc: 23322
 
bylm1-Bernie wrote:
Come now, Kids. Stop arguing. We have bigger battles to fight.



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Feb 26, 2022 17:00:03   #
bylm1-Bernie
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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Thank your Bernie, I am hurting, facing these 2 battles. I prioritize God, then and love for neighbors. The world is on fire. I am praying those oppressed, God will save them. God was the first to give us freedom. But the freedom of those in Ukraine are taken away. That hurts me too. Good day!


You're doing the right thing, Rad3. Many have been and are praying for the mess we are in now. It is very depressing but we have to try to keep a little levity in our lives. Getting too upset over something we have no control over isn't going to help anyone, much less those in Ukraine. It is a terrible situation and one that shouldn't be happening. It is much more concerning when we realize it is a satanic and deliberate action caused by a tyrant.
What a world we live in.

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Feb 26, 2022 18:12:31   #
Ricktloml
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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Thank your Bernie, I am hurting, facing these 2 battles. I prioritize God, then and love for neighbors. The world is on fire. I am praying those oppressed, God will save them. God was the first to give us freedom. But the freedom of those in Ukraine are taken away. That hurts me too. Good day!


From years of reading your posts I know that you are one of the most devout posters on this forum. You know God puts us where He wants us. I remember there was a thread about would anything on this forum change your world view/deeply held positions on life. Almost EVERYONE said...no. If you have chosen your core beliefs carefully, no one is going to easily abandon them, (bit of humor--you'd be a l*****t if you did.) I am sorry your feelings were hurt. God Bless you Radiance. And God bless Ginny too...she is passionate about her beliefs. Something we all should be. But like all of us she could work on her delivery.

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Feb 26, 2022 18:52:50   #
Ginny_Dandy Loc: Pacific Northwest
 
Ricktloml wrote:
From years of reading your posts I know that you are one of the most devout posters on this forum. You know God puts us where He wants us. I remember there was a thread about would anything on this forum change your world view/deeply held positions on life. Almost EVERYONE said...no. If you have chosen your core beliefs carefully, no one is going to easily abandon them, (bit of humor--you'd be a l*****t if you did.) I am sorry your feelings were hurt. God Bless you Radiance. And God bless Ginny too...she is passionate about her beliefs. Something we all should be. But like all of us she could work on her delivery.
From years of reading your posts I know that you a... (show quote)


T***h hurts!

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Feb 26, 2022 19:46:39   #
Ferrous Loc: Pacific North Coast, CA
 
Getting back to the original question in this thread: "Does Joe Biden become the Hero who stopped War in the Ukraine?"

I want to ask, will President Biden win the next Nobel Peace Prize for his outstanding work in bringing Peace to Eastern Europe? President Obama got his for his incredible work in finally bringing lasting Peace to the Middle Earth... Oooops, I mean Middle East.

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Feb 26, 2022 22:32:00   #
Ginny_Dandy Loc: Pacific Northwest
 
Ferrous wrote:
Getting back to the original question in this thread: "Does Joe Biden become the Hero who stopped War in the Ukraine?"

I want to ask, will President Biden win the next Nobel Peace Prize for his outstanding work in bringing Peace to Eastern Europe? President Obama got his for his incredible work in finally bringing lasting Peace to the Middle Earth... Oooops, I mean Middle East.


I believe Biden will be given credit for starting WWIII. The Lefties are notorious for patting each other on the back, but they're going to be hard-pressed to give Biden a pat on the back as gas prices keep rising.

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Feb 27, 2022 08:11:30   #
jSmitty45 Loc: Fl born, lived in Texas 30 yrs, now Louisiana
 
Ferrous wrote:
Definitely spot on... Biden is accusing Putin of war crimes before the war has even started.

A Blood bath, decapitation of Ukrainian leaders, seizing Ukrainian assets and land is imminent?I like your insight in why Putin might be stationing troops on the border. This push to have Ukraine join NATO is a direct threat to Russia and Biden is seen as the Bully threatening Putin with sanctions and military action and declaring that a Russian invasion is imminent.

This whole mess sounds like history repeating it's self... June 24, 1914 the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand was the spark that caused Austria-Hungary to strike the first blow, all the European powers quickly chose up sides and the bloodbath of WWI ensued...

Obama had his Arab Spring when he set the Mideast on fire and now will Biden have his "Slavic Spring?"

Biden needs to stay out of this and try an fix some of the dumpster fires he's created here in our own country... Starting with securing our borders, protecting us and our police officers, easing our dependence on foreign oil and Nat Gas, curbing government spending and getting our economy off of life support.

One year of Biden being in office has brought our nation crashing down and we still have 3 more years of him running things . We should consider President Obama when he reminded us: “Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f**k things up.”
Definitely spot on... Biden is accusing Putin of w... (show quote)


He is doing a good job of that too.

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Feb 27, 2022 09:08:00   #
bylm1-Bernie
 
Ferrous wrote:
Getting back to the original question in this thread: "Does Joe Biden become the Hero who stopped War in the Ukraine?"

I want to ask, will President Biden win the next Nobel Peace Prize for his outstanding work in bringing Peace to Eastern Europe? President Obama got his for his incredible work in finally bringing lasting Peace to the Middle Earth... Oooops, I mean Middle East.


I thought Obama got his almost before he took office. In other words, the Oslo committee was "betting on the come." I guess that committee wouldn't do well in poker would they. Am I wrong on the chronology?

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Feb 27, 2022 10:42:22   #
Ferrous Loc: Pacific North Coast, CA
 
Obama was given his Nobel Peace Prize for his rhetoric as a politician (Community Organizer like Saul Alinsky)... the thought of him as the Coming of the 2nd Messiah bringing peace to the world. Instead he fuel mostly h**e and destruction. Yes, the Nobel Peace Prize committee was charmed by his words.

Biden, on the other hand is being propped up as the great negotiator and leader who will bring Peace by his Strength, Wisdom, and Actions.

As the old saying goes: "fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me" or as Obama once said of Ole Joe: "'Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f**k things up"

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Feb 28, 2022 01:57:09   #
Ginny_Dandy Loc: Pacific Northwest
 
Ferrous wrote:
Obama was given his Nobel Peace Prize for his rhetoric as a politician (Community Organizer like Saul Alinsky)... the thought of him as the Coming of the 2nd Messiah bringing peace to the world. Instead he fuel mostly h**e and destruction. Yes, the Nobel Peace Prize committee was charmed by his words.

Biden, on the other hand is being propped up as the great negotiator and leader who will bring Peace by his Strength, Wisdom, and Actions.

As the old saying goes: "fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me" or as Obama once said of Ole Joe: "'Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f**k things up"
Obama was given his Nobel Peace Prize for his rhet... (show quote)



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Feb 28, 2022 02:05:40   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
336Robin wrote:
Interesting development. Does Joe Biden become the hero for averting war between Russia and the Ukraine?

He is on an even keel and I see him being instrumental while Donnie Boy is home losing it.

I wonder if the Top Secret documents Trump took to Mara Lago said anything about it!


Reuters
Biden agrees in principle to Ukraine summit with Putin
Sun, February 20, 2022, 5:53 AM

(Reuters) -U.S. President Joe Biden and Russian President Vladimir Putin have agreed in principle to a summit over Ukraine, the French leader said on Monday, offering a possible path out of one of the most dangerous European crises in decades.

Financial markets edged higher on the glimmer of hope for a diplomatic solution even as satellite imagery appeared to show Russian deployments closer to Ukraine's border, while sounds of fighting were heard on Monday in the east, where Ukrainian government forces are fighting pro-Russian separatists.

The office of French President Emmanuel Macron said in a statement he had pitched to both leaders a summit on "security and strategic stability in Europe." In a statement, the White House said Biden had accepted the meeting "in principle" but only "if an invasion hasn't happened".

"We are always ready for diplomacy," White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki said. "We are also ready to impose swift and severe consequences, should Russia instead choose war."

Messages seeking comment from the Kremlin and the office of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy were not immediately returned early on Monday.

Few details of the proposed summit, announced after a volley of phone calls between Macron, Biden, Putin, Zelenskiy, and British Prime Minister Boris Johnson, are clear.

Macron's office and the White House said the substance of the plan would be worked out by U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken and Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov during their meeting planned for Feb. 24.

What role Ukraine would play in the summit, if any, was also uncertain.

A Biden administration official said in an email that the summit was "completely notional" as the timing and format had yet to be determined.

EU foreign policy chief Josep Borrell said there was a pressing need for talks to avoid war, while Germany said Russia should come back to the negotiating table.

While oil prices fell, Asian share markets pared losses and Wall Street futures rallied on news of the possible summit, Michael McFaul, a former U.S. ambassador to Russia, said he was sceptical it would happen.

"But if Biden and Putin did meet, they should invite (Zelenskiy) to join," he said in a message posted on Twitter.

News of Macron's proposal comes after a week of heightened tension spurred by Russia's military buildup.

Russian forces have been massing around its neighbour since late last year, in what Western countries say is a prelude to an invasion that could come at any moment.

Russia denies any intention to invade, but nerves were further frayed when the Belarusian defence ministry announced that Russia would extend military drills in Belarus that had been due to end on Sunday.

U.S.-based satellite imagery company Maxar reported multiple new deployments of Russian military units in forests, farms, and industrial areas as little as 15 km (9 miles) from the border with Ukraine.

On Sunday, Blinken said the extension of the exercises in Belarus, bordering Ukraine to the north, made him more worried that Russia was on the brink of an attack and every opportunity had to be taken to get diplomacy to work.

Belarus said Russian troops would go home from the exercises when there was "an objective need" to do so, the Interfax news agency said.

In a letter to U.N. human rights chief Michelle Bachelet, seen by Reuters, the United States raised concern that "further Russian invasion of Ukraine may create a human rights catastrophe", including the possible rounding up and k*****g of opponents.

SPORADIC SHELLING

Sporadic shelling across the line dividing Ukrainian government forces and pro-Russian separatists in the east has intensified since Thursday.

Sounds of fighting were heard again on Monday, including a blast in the centre of the separatist-held city of Donetsk. The cause was not known.

The rebels said two civilians were k**led in shelling by Kyiv government forces, Russia's RIA news agency said. Russian media reported 61,000 evacuees from east Ukraine had crossed into Russia.

Kyiv has accused pro-Russian forces of shelling their own compatriots in the breakaway region in order to blame the attacks on Ukrainian government forces.

Western countries are preparing sanctions they say would be wide-reaching against Russian companies and individuals in case of an invasion, including steps to bar U.S. financial institutions from processing t***sactions for major Russian banks, people familiar with the matter said.

British Prime Minister Boris Johnson told the BBC such measures could include curbs on Russian businesses' access to the dollar and the pound.

European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen told German broadcaster ARD that Russia "would in principle be cut off from the international financial markets" and from major European exports.

Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba said it was time for the West to impose at least part of the sanctions it has prepared, but the Biden administration has declined to do so, saying their deterrent effect would be lost if used too soon.

(Reporting by Reuters bureaux; Writing by Raphael Satter and Stephen Coates; Editing by Robert Birsel and Clarence Fernandez)
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This is a joke and the punch line is Afghanistan.

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