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The Loophole That Defeated President Trump Tried to Steal the Election With Is Still There
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Jan 7, 2022 13:03:30   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
microphor wrote:
Prove it. Your word has no merit due to your bias.


The meetings were secret, but they were all over the news.
Maybe overlooked by your umm channel.

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Jan 7, 2022 13:08:50   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Milosia2 wrote:
The meetings were secret, but they were all over the news.
Maybe overlooked by your umm channel.


Show us some links to that.

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Jan 7, 2022 13:30:22   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
Milosia2 wrote:
So you do know how voting works, you just think it would work better for you , your way ?
Next time if you think you might lose,
Simple, Don’t Vote.
Save yourself the embarrassment of the whiney little bitch syndrome.

Whiney lil bi ch syndrome, coming from someone who thinks she should get someone else's money because they were smart enough to make a lot and you weren't.

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Jan 7, 2022 13:34:22   #
Big Bass
 
rumitoid wrote:
[Pence actually could have had ended the democratic process of free elections.]

Daily Beast
Gretchen Carlson
Fri, January 7, 2022, 3:03 AM

Much of what was broken on Jan. 6 can’t be fixed, but there’s one thing that can: the loophole in the Electoral Count Act on which Donald Trump pinned his hopes of overturning the 2020 election.

That badly worded law—leaving open the question whether the vice president’s role is merely ceremonial or he has the power to replace duly certified electors—is still on the books. It requires only one member from the House and one from the Senate to make an objection to halt the count, with both branches of Congress then retiring to their respective chambers.

From there, the election can be tossed to the House.

With state delegations voting, not electors, Trump would have prevailed there, and likely prevailed again when that mess eventually made its way to a Supreme Court packed with Trump judges.

That was the plan for overturning the voters’ will in an election that wasn’t even close, unlike the Hayes-Tilden nail-biter in 1876 that inspired the ECA. The new law created a solemn ceremony, presided over by the vice president, presenting the state’s electors to Congress and setting the election in stone. It worked for 133 years until a madman came along.

Yet neither party’s been in any rush to tackle the ECA, that is until the eve of the Jan. 6 memorial when Mitch McConnell, in answer to a reporter’s question about the flawed measure, allowed that “It is worth, I think, discussing.” Hardly a call to action.

But it gave the cyborgs at Fox, with no interest in covering the Jan. 6 ceremonies, something to chew over the next morning. The panel was aghast that Biden hadn’t mentioned the off-hand comment McConnell had made less than 24 hours earlier.

McConnell, of course, will only think “it” is worth discussing if “it” gives him cover to kill voting reforms and doesn’t enrage Trump to the point where he puts up more crackpot candidates like Dr. Oz and Herschel Walker to challenge any Republican who’s annoyed the King of Mar-a-Lago. Every time Trump dredges up a primary challenger to an establishment candidate, the odds of McConnell reclaiming his Majority Leader post get worse.

The timing of McConnell’s proposal was convenient, diverting attention from his party’s craven decision not to participate in any of yesterday’s events commemorating the day of infamy that Republicans spent the last year denying. They variously called it a mere protest of a fraudulent election, just another day in January, or tourists gone wild—and they all agreed it’s definitely something that should be put in the rear view mirror so the country (read: the GOP) could move on.

A year later, many members remain mum on the subject of who’s president. It took six months for McConnell to concede that Biden is—which has a lot to do with fewer than six in 10 Americans, and barely three in 10 Republicans, believing it. The Senate’s dutiful look back at what happened was careful to leave out Trump and his co-conspirators. The whitewash concluded that it was all a failure of the FBI, the Pentagon, and the Capitol Police to plan for an expected demonstration.

At least Republicans in the Senate cooperated in an inquiry, unlike their counterparts in the House “led,” if that’s the word for it, by Kevin McCarthy. After briefly calling Trump responsible for the insurrection, he flew to Palm Beach to apologize in person. Returned to Trump’s good graces, McCarthy fought tooth and nail to kill any investigation. When he appointed obnoxious Trump sycophants to sabotage the Jan. 6 select committee, then washed his hands of the whole thing, Nancy Pelosi called his bluff and appointed Republicans like Liz Cheney instead. If it’s the last thing he does, McCarthy will see that Cheney, whom he removed from her leadership position for voting to impeach Trump, loses her seat. It’s a daily rebuke to him when she gives witness daily to the reality that Trump’s backers stormed the Capitol Building to interrupt the process certifying the election created by the ECA, and that her fellow Republicans were complicit in it.

If McConnell is serious about reforming the ECA, he would be opening a can of worms he’s kept a lid on until now. He’s covered for his caucus, not criticizing, much less censuring, the senators who pledged to uphold the constitution but instead defiled it to keep Trump in the Oval Office. Sen. Josh Hawley’s star is still rising despite saying on Jan. 5 of 2020 that a second Trump term depended “on what happens on Wednesday,” Jan. 6. He must have known.

For different reasons, Democrats haven’t been much better when it comes to amending the ECA that remains vulnerable to the machinations of the next authoritarian loser. Part of the Democrat's reluctance comes from the assumption that there could never be another president as unscrupulous as Trump and with such an iron grip on his party. Chuck Schumer is otherwise engaged, focused like a laser on passing two other pieces of critical legislation that will partly correct for the successful efforts in states run by the GOP to make voting as difficult as possible and putting in place partisans to count the vote—and to keep counting it until it comes to the “right” result for their party.

But reform is urgently needed. It’s breathtaking that Trump thought he could overturn the most audited election in history, and it’s frightening how close Trump got with the help of a broad reading of a murky law by his clownish lawyers.

Even after the violent assault on our democracy was contained, the non-violent one continued when Congress reconvened. Three hours after members had been running for their lives, 147 House Republicans drove a Mack Truck through the ECA’s loophole to stop the proceedings, as Trump and those who attacked them wanted. Not even an armed invasion of the Capitol could wake the GOP from its Trump stupor. The terrorists almost won.

“When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross,” Sinclair Lewis famously wrote in his 1935 dystopian novel It Can’t Happen Here. He described insurrectionists hiding behind Old Glory but even he didn’t imagine them wielding it as a literal weapon.

Despite the fact that a failed coup is practice for the next one, the same loophole Trump tried to exploit is still wide open. Except for taxes and judges, McConnell has no brief for Trump. The Turtle can’t stand to be around the Donald, and the Donald can’t stop insulting the Turtle.

To make up for the many chances McConnell’s missed to loosen Trump’s grip, he has a chance now. Like Mike Pence, he should try to relocate his spine, and fix what can be for now. He could close the loophole Trump tried to weasel through and stop Trump or any of the Trump wannabees waiting in the wings from another Jan. 6.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/loophole-trump-tried-steal-election-100345914.html
Pence actually could have had ended the democrati... (show quote)


Oh, I see what you turkeys are up to. When Trump beats the commies in 2024, then you can claim he stole it. Gotcha.

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Jan 7, 2022 13:35:14   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Big Bass wrote:
Oh, I see what you turkeys are up to. When Trump beats the commies in 2024, then you can claim he stole it. Gotcha.


Just like in 2016!!

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Jan 7, 2022 14:41:44   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
Milosia2 wrote:
The meetings were secret, but they were all over the news.
Maybe overlooked by your umm channel.


All over the news doesn't make it true. Humm. Secret meetings all over the news- Stoooopiddd!

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Jan 7, 2022 15:10:14   #
vernon
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Trump was having secret meetings in the Oval Office with Russians, no US media allowed. Go ahead take stab at that one.
Was it only for Tea ?



No it was with some nigga ho,you lying dumbass!

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Jan 7, 2022 15:18:44   #
woodguru
 
rumitoid wrote:
[Pence actually could have had ended the democratic process of free elections.]


It was later proved after the election was conceded by Gore that he won with the 690 votes that were erroneously rejected.

These technicalities that then get decided by courts are dangerous subversions of the will of the American people.

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Jan 7, 2022 18:11:41   #
vernon
 
woodguru wrote:
It was later proved after the election was conceded by Gore that he won with the 690 votes that were erroneously rejected.

These technicalities that then get decided by courts are dangerous subversions of the will of the American people.



Thats more of your bull shit Bore lost Florida.

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Jan 7, 2022 18:13:16   #
vernon
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Show us some links to that.



She can't show anything but her arse.

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Jan 8, 2022 09:44:30   #
River Reb Loc: MS Delta
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Dems = Majority
Reps=. Minority
No tricks , simple math , the one with the most white marbles wins.
These things haven’t changed in all time.
The the Losers who agreed to vote also agreed to capitulate. Or not vote.
Very simple.
Unlike the complicated Turkey chase trump has concocted, the most white marbles wins.
Here’s a thing perhaps unnoticed by the trumpees. Trumps motivation has been totally restricted to keeping the
Trump Crime Family out of jail.
Nothing else.
So there’s the trump family motivation butting heads with his flying monkeys , each fighting for a different cause. Trump doesn’t care about party , nation , god, or anything else. Only Trump !
Lol !
Too funny !
Wakey Wakey !
Dems = Majority br Reps=. Minority br No tricks... (show quote)


You are always down on Mr. TRUMP.
Stop and look at how MUCH BETTER the country was doing before the mentally challenged buffoon was "elected".

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Jan 8, 2022 11:11:22   #
currahee506
 
rumitoid wrote:
[Pence actually could have had ended the democratic process of free elections.]

Daily Beast
Gretchen Carlson
Fri, January 7, 2022, 3:03 AM

Much of what was broken on Jan. 6 can’t be fixed, but there’s one thing that can: the loophole in the Electoral Count Act on which Donald Trump pinned his hopes of overturning the 2020 election.

That badly worded law—leaving open the question whether the vice president’s role is merely ceremonial or he has the power to replace duly certified electors—is still on the books. It requires only one member from the House and one from the Senate to make an objection to halt the count, with both branches of Congress then retiring to their respective chambers.

From there, the election can be tossed to the House.

With state delegations voting, not electors, Trump would have prevailed there, and likely prevailed again when that mess eventually made its way to a Supreme Court packed with Trump judges.

That was the plan for overturning the voters’ will in an election that wasn’t even close, unlike the Hayes-Tilden nail-biter in 1876 that inspired the ECA. The new law created a solemn ceremony, presided over by the vice president, presenting the state’s electors to Congress and setting the election in stone. It worked for 133 years until a madman came along.

Yet neither party’s been in any rush to tackle the ECA, that is until the eve of the Jan. 6 memorial when Mitch McConnell, in answer to a reporter’s question about the flawed measure, allowed that “It is worth, I think, discussing.” Hardly a call to action.

But it gave the cyborgs at Fox, with no interest in covering the Jan. 6 ceremonies, something to chew over the next morning. The panel was aghast that Biden hadn’t mentioned the off-hand comment McConnell had made less than 24 hours earlier.

McConnell, of course, will only think “it” is worth discussing if “it” gives him cover to kill voting reforms and doesn’t enrage Trump to the point where he puts up more crackpot candidates like Dr. Oz and Herschel Walker to challenge any Republican who’s annoyed the King of Mar-a-Lago. Every time Trump dredges up a primary challenger to an establishment candidate, the odds of McConnell reclaiming his Majority Leader post get worse.

The timing of McConnell’s proposal was convenient, diverting attention from his party’s craven decision not to participate in any of yesterday’s events commemorating the day of infamy that Republicans spent the last year denying. They variously called it a mere protest of a fraudulent election, just another day in January, or tourists gone wild—and they all agreed it’s definitely something that should be put in the rear view mirror so the country (read: the GOP) could move on.

A year later, many members remain mum on the subject of who’s president. It took six months for McConnell to concede that Biden is—which has a lot to do with fewer than six in 10 Americans, and barely three in 10 Republicans, believing it. The Senate’s dutiful look back at what happened was careful to leave out Trump and his co-conspirators. The whitewash concluded that it was all a failure of the FBI, the Pentagon, and the Capitol Police to plan for an expected demonstration.

At least Republicans in the Senate cooperated in an inquiry, unlike their counterparts in the House “led,” if that’s the word for it, by Kevin McCarthy. After briefly calling Trump responsible for the insurrection, he flew to Palm Beach to apologize in person. Returned to Trump’s good graces, McCarthy fought tooth and nail to kill any investigation. When he appointed obnoxious Trump sycophants to sabotage the Jan. 6 select committee, then washed his hands of the whole thing, Nancy Pelosi called his bluff and appointed Republicans like Liz Cheney instead. If it’s the last thing he does, McCarthy will see that Cheney, whom he removed from her leadership position for voting to impeach Trump, loses her seat. It’s a daily rebuke to him when she gives witness daily to the reality that Trump’s backers stormed the Capitol Building to interrupt the process certifying the election created by the ECA, and that her fellow Republicans were complicit in it.

If McConnell is serious about reforming the ECA, he would be opening a can of worms he’s kept a lid on until now. He’s covered for his caucus, not criticizing, much less censuring, the senators who pledged to uphold the constitution but instead defiled it to keep Trump in the Oval Office. Sen. Josh Hawley’s star is still rising despite saying on Jan. 5 of 2020 that a second Trump term depended “on what happens on Wednesday,” Jan. 6. He must have known.

For different reasons, Democrats haven’t been much better when it comes to amending the ECA that remains vulnerable to the machinations of the next authoritarian loser. Part of the Democrat's reluctance comes from the assumption that there could never be another president as unscrupulous as Trump and with such an iron grip on his party. Chuck Schumer is otherwise engaged, focused like a laser on passing two other pieces of critical legislation that will partly correct for the successful efforts in states run by the GOP to make voting as difficult as possible and putting in place partisans to count the vote—and to keep counting it until it comes to the “right” result for their party.

But reform is urgently needed. It’s breathtaking that Trump thought he could overturn the most audited election in history, and it’s frightening how close Trump got with the help of a broad reading of a murky law by his clownish lawyers.

Even after the violent assault on our democracy was contained, the non-violent one continued when Congress reconvened. Three hours after members had been running for their lives, 147 House Republicans drove a Mack Truck through the ECA’s loophole to stop the proceedings, as Trump and those who attacked them wanted. Not even an armed invasion of the Capitol could wake the GOP from its Trump stupor. The terrorists almost won.

“When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross,” Sinclair Lewis famously wrote in his 1935 dystopian novel It Can’t Happen Here. He described insurrectionists hiding behind Old Glory but even he didn’t imagine them wielding it as a literal weapon.

Despite the fact that a failed coup is practice for the next one, the same loophole Trump tried to exploit is still wide open. Except for taxes and judges, McConnell has no brief for Trump. The Turtle can’t stand to be around the Donald, and the Donald can’t stop insulting the Turtle.

To make up for the many chances McConnell’s missed to loosen Trump’s grip, he has a chance now. Like Mike Pence, he should try to relocate his spine, and fix what can be for now. He could close the loophole Trump tried to weasel through and stop Trump or any of the Trump wannabees waiting in the wings from another Jan. 6.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/loophole-trump-tried-steal-election-100345914.html
Pence actually could have had ended the democrati... (show quote)


Are you a communist?

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Jan 8, 2022 16:29:14   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
LOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Talk about conspiracy theories!!!!
She so ignorant it's frustrating.

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Jan 11, 2022 02:26:14   #
DamnYANKEE
 
rumitoid wrote:
[Pence actually could have had ended the democratic process of free elections.]

Daily Beast
Gretchen Carlson
Fri, January 7, 2022, 3:03 AM

Much of what was broken on Jan. 6 can’t be fixed, but there’s one thing that can: the loophole in the Electoral Count Act on which Donald Trump pinned his hopes of overturning the 2020 election.

That badly worded law—leaving open the question whether the vice president’s role is merely ceremonial or he has the power to replace duly certified electors—is still on the books. It requires only one member from the House and one from the Senate to make an objection to halt the count, with both branches of Congress then retiring to their respective chambers.

From there, the election can be tossed to the House.

With state delegations voting, not electors, Trump would have prevailed there, and likely prevailed again when that mess eventually made its way to a Supreme Court packed with Trump judges.

That was the plan for overturning the voters’ will in an election that wasn’t even close, unlike the Hayes-Tilden nail-biter in 1876 that inspired the ECA. The new law created a solemn ceremony, presided over by the vice president, presenting the state’s electors to Congress and setting the election in stone. It worked for 133 years until a madman came along.

Yet neither party’s been in any rush to tackle the ECA, that is until the eve of the Jan. 6 memorial when Mitch McConnell, in answer to a reporter’s question about the flawed measure, allowed that “It is worth, I think, discussing.” Hardly a call to action.

But it gave the cyborgs at Fox, with no interest in covering the Jan. 6 ceremonies, something to chew over the next morning. The panel was aghast that Biden hadn’t mentioned the off-hand comment McConnell had made less than 24 hours earlier.

McConnell, of course, will only think “it” is worth discussing if “it” gives him cover to kill voting reforms and doesn’t enrage Trump to the point where he puts up more crackpot candidates like Dr. Oz and Herschel Walker to challenge any Republican who’s annoyed the King of Mar-a-Lago. Every time Trump dredges up a primary challenger to an establishment candidate, the odds of McConnell reclaiming his Majority Leader post get worse.

The timing of McConnell’s proposal was convenient, diverting attention from his party’s craven decision not to participate in any of yesterday’s events commemorating the day of infamy that Republicans spent the last year denying. They variously called it a mere protest of a fraudulent election, just another day in January, or tourists gone wild—and they all agreed it’s definitely something that should be put in the rear view mirror so the country (read: the GOP) could move on.

A year later, many members remain mum on the subject of who’s president. It took six months for McConnell to concede that Biden is—which has a lot to do with fewer than six in 10 Americans, and barely three in 10 Republicans, believing it. The Senate’s dutiful look back at what happened was careful to leave out Trump and his co-conspirators. The whitewash concluded that it was all a failure of the FBI, the Pentagon, and the Capitol Police to plan for an expected demonstration.

At least Republicans in the Senate cooperated in an inquiry, unlike their counterparts in the House “led,” if that’s the word for it, by Kevin McCarthy. After briefly calling Trump responsible for the insurrection, he flew to Palm Beach to apologize in person. Returned to Trump’s good graces, McCarthy fought tooth and nail to kill any investigation. When he appointed obnoxious Trump sycophants to sabotage the Jan. 6 select committee, then washed his hands of the whole thing, Nancy Pelosi called his bluff and appointed Republicans like Liz Cheney instead. If it’s the last thing he does, McCarthy will see that Cheney, whom he removed from her leadership position for voting to impeach Trump, loses her seat. It’s a daily rebuke to him when she gives witness daily to the reality that Trump’s backers stormed the Capitol Building to interrupt the process certifying the election created by the ECA, and that her fellow Republicans were complicit in it.

If McConnell is serious about reforming the ECA, he would be opening a can of worms he’s kept a lid on until now. He’s covered for his caucus, not criticizing, much less censuring, the senators who pledged to uphold the constitution but instead defiled it to keep Trump in the Oval Office. Sen. Josh Hawley’s star is still rising despite saying on Jan. 5 of 2020 that a second Trump term depended “on what happens on Wednesday,” Jan. 6. He must have known.

For different reasons, Democrats haven’t been much better when it comes to amending the ECA that remains vulnerable to the machinations of the next authoritarian loser. Part of the Democrat's reluctance comes from the assumption that there could never be another president as unscrupulous as Trump and with such an iron grip on his party. Chuck Schumer is otherwise engaged, focused like a laser on passing two other pieces of critical legislation that will partly correct for the successful efforts in states run by the GOP to make voting as difficult as possible and putting in place partisans to count the vote—and to keep counting it until it comes to the “right” result for their party.

But reform is urgently needed. It’s breathtaking that Trump thought he could overturn the most audited election in history, and it’s frightening how close Trump got with the help of a broad reading of a murky law by his clownish lawyers.

Even after the violent assault on our democracy was contained, the non-violent one continued when Congress reconvened. Three hours after members had been running for their lives, 147 House Republicans drove a Mack Truck through the ECA’s loophole to stop the proceedings, as Trump and those who attacked them wanted. Not even an armed invasion of the Capitol could wake the GOP from its Trump stupor. The terrorists almost won.

“When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross,” Sinclair Lewis famously wrote in his 1935 dystopian novel It Can’t Happen Here. He described insurrectionists hiding behind Old Glory but even he didn’t imagine them wielding it as a literal weapon.

Despite the fact that a failed coup is practice for the next one, the same loophole Trump tried to exploit is still wide open. Except for taxes and judges, McConnell has no brief for Trump. The Turtle can’t stand to be around the Donald, and the Donald can’t stop insulting the Turtle.

To make up for the many chances McConnell’s missed to loosen Trump’s grip, he has a chance now. Like Mike Pence, he should try to relocate his spine, and fix what can be for now. He could close the loophole Trump tried to weasel through and stop Trump or any of the Trump wannabees waiting in the wings from another Jan. 6.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/loophole-trump-tried-steal-election-100345914.html
Pence actually could have had ended the democrati... (show quote)


just more CRAP from an OPP Troll

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