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Dec 1, 2021 19:03:42   #
Ferrous Loc: Pacific North Coast, CA
 
The myth of "Guns don't kill, people kill people" has finally been proven wrong.

Alex Baldwin said he never pulled the trigger. The gun fired on it's own when he was drawing it from his holster.

https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-59499237

Sometimes an automatic can fire if the safety is damaged or a worn holster presses the trigger... I can't find anyway reason for a vintage Colt 45 to fire without pulling the trigger or dropping it.

It has been reported that the gun was in his hand and pointing it at the camera when the weapon fired.

Can anyone explained how this weapon fired without Baldwin pulling the trigger. I have already ruled out it being modified with a "Hair Trigger" and then used as a prop weapon.

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Dec 1, 2021 19:31:23   #
Carol Kelly
 
Ferrous wrote:
The myth of "Guns don't kill, people kill people" has finally been proven wrong.

Alex Baldwin said he never pulled the trigger. The gun fired on it's own when he was drawing it from his holster.

https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-59499237

Sometimes an automatic can fire if the safety is damaged or a worn holster presses the trigger... I can't find anyway reason for a vintage Colt 45 to fire without pulling the trigger or dropping it.

It has been reported that the gun was in his hand and pointing it at the camera when the weapon fired.

Can anyone explained how this weapon fired without Baldwin pulling the trigger. I have already ruled out it being modified with a "Hair Trigger" and then used as a prop weapon.
The myth of "Guns don't kill, people kill peo... (show quote)

I just saw him explain how he did not pull that trigger. Poor us.

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Dec 1, 2021 19:31:54   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
Ferrous wrote:
The myth of "Guns don't kill, people kill people" has finally been proven wrong.

Alex Baldwin said he never pulled the trigger. The gun fired on it's own when he was drawing it from his holster.

https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-59499237

Sometimes an automatic can fire if the safety is damaged or a worn holster presses the trigger... I can't find anyway reason for a vintage Colt 45 to fire without pulling the trigger or dropping it.

It has been reported that the gun was in his hand and pointing it at the camera when the weapon fired.

Can anyone explained how this weapon fired without Baldwin pulling the trigger. I have already ruled out it being modified with a "Hair Trigger" and then used as a prop weapon.
The myth of "Guns don't kill, people kill peo... (show quote)


Alec Baldwin is a liar! A Colt 45 is not an automatic!. What other BS do you believe from this turd? He is a typical leftist and not willing to take responsibility for his own actions and now looking to pass the blame on to someone else. You NEVER point a weapon indiscriminately at another person whether you think it is loaded or not unless you plan to use it. This isn't rocket science. Even the incompetent, inept, ignorant, and stupid prosecutor in the Kyle Rittenhouse trial pointed the AR-15 at the jury while his finger was on the trigger. My god, some people are stupid! Baldwin pulled the trigger, at least inadvertently, whether he meant to or not, and has convinced himself that he doesn't remember pulling the trigger. Disassociation and deflection. Baldwin is a Moron!

Me thinks you have been watching too many Cops or Westerns on TV.

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Dec 1, 2021 19:36:27   #
Carol Kelly
 
dtucker300 wrote:
Alec Baldwin is a liar! A Colt 45 is not an automatic!. What other BS do you believe from this turd? He is a typical leftist and not willing to take responsibility for his own actions and now looking to pass the blame on to someone else. You NEVER point a weapon indiscriminately at another person whether you think it is loaded or not unless you plan to use it. This isn't rocket science. Even the incompetent, inept, ignorant, and stupid prosecutor in the Kyle Rittenhouse trial pointed the AR-15 at the jury while his finger was on the trigger. My god, some people are stupid!
Alec Baldwin is a liar! A Colt 45 is not an autom... (show quote)


He should be in Biden’s cabinet.

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Dec 1, 2021 20:00:07   #
Ferrous Loc: Pacific North Coast, CA
 
Looks like dtrucker reads the title and starts his pontification before he finished reading my whole thread...

I guess the satire was a bit too complicated for him...

I'm still trying to find out if a vintage Colt 45 can fire without someone pulling the trigger (other than having a Hair Trigger or being dropped???)

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Dec 1, 2021 20:13:05   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Ferrous wrote:
Looks like dtrucker reads the title and starts his pontification before he finished reading my whole thread...

I guess the satire was a bit too complicated for him...

I'm still trying to find out if a vintage Colt 45 can fire without someone pulling the trigger (other than having a Hair Trigger or being dropped???)
Are you talking about an actual Colt 45 revolver or a made for the movies Colt 45 prop gun?

A true vintage Colt 45 made in the 1800s would be a high dollar collector's item. The famous pistols from that era available today are replicas.

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Dec 1, 2021 20:15:13   #
Sonny Magoo Loc: Where pot pie is boiled in a kettle
 
Ferrous wrote:
The myth of "Guns don't kill, people kill people" has finally been proven wrong.

Alex Baldwin said he never pulled the trigger. The gun fired on it's own when he was drawing it from his holster.

https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-59499237

Sometimes an automatic can fire if the safety is damaged or a worn holster presses the trigger... I can't find anyway reason for a vintage Colt 45 to fire without pulling the trigger or dropping it.

It has been reported that the gun was in his hand and pointing it at the camera when the weapon fired.

Can anyone explained how this weapon fired without Baldwin pulling the trigger. I have already ruled out it being modified with a "Hair Trigger" and then used as a prop weapon.
The myth of "Guns don't kill, people kill peo... (show quote)


WHAT?
Go get a gun and play with it

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Dec 1, 2021 20:22:18   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
Ferrous wrote:
Looks like dtrucker reads the title and starts his pontification before he finished reading my whole thread...

I guess the satire was a bit too complicated for him...

I'm still trying to find out if a vintage Colt 45 can fire without someone pulling the trigger (other than having a Hair Trigger or being dropped???)


The article you provided a link to was satire? Your response was satire? I don't think so. It was the rant of an ignorant and uneducated person who is now trying to backtrack their words. I read your entire post. Don't you Marxist Trolls have a freeway nearby where you can go play instead of wasting everyone's time here with the mundane? The Colt 45 was a revolver, not an M1911 which is a semi-automatic that I carried in the Army. Despite the urban myth, they do not fire by themselves, unless profusely abused, in which case they are taken out of service. Every case of an accidental firing of an M1911 can be attributed to the person handling the weapon and not spontaneously discharging a round, unless the user did something wrong.

"The myth of "Guns don't kill, people kill people" has finally been proven wrong." Not a myth.

Satire...HaHaHa! Not!

P.S. I'm not a trucker.

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Dec 1, 2021 21:06:41   #
Ferrous Loc: Pacific North Coast, CA
 
dtucker300 wrote:
The article you provided a link to was satire? Your response was satire? I don't think so. It was the rant of an ignorant and uneducated person who is now trying to backtrack their words. I read your entire post. Don't you Marxist Trolls have a freeway nearby where you can go play instead of wasting everyone's time here with the mundane? The Colt 45 was a revolver, not an M1911 which is a semi-automatic that I carried in the Army. Despite the urban myth, they do not fire by themselves, unless profusely abused, in which case they are taken out of service. Every case of an accidental firing of an M1911 can be attributed to the person handling the weapon and not spontaneously discharging a round, unless the user did something wrong.

"The myth of "Guns don't kill, people kill people" has finally been proven wrong." Not a myth.

Satire...HaHaHa! Not!

P.S. I'm not a trucker.
The article you provided a link to was satire? Yo... (show quote)


In Baldwin's world, that is exactly what he is saying... The gun killed the woman.

I'm asking how this vintage Colt 45 fired a round without Baldwin pulling the trigger... unless the trigger had been modified with an extremely Hair Trigger. The Sherriff has the revolver so Baldwin's claim can be proven or not.

What I think is funny is how you are responding to this thread... of course guns don't kill people, people kill people. ...The irony (or BS) is Baldwin saying the gun killed the woman.

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Dec 1, 2021 21:20:23   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
Ferrous wrote:
In Baldwin's world, that is exactly what he is saying... The gun killed the woman.

I'm asking how this vintage Colt 45 fired a round without Baldwin pulling the trigger... unless the trigger had been modified with an extremely Hair Trigger. The Sherriff has the revolver so Baldwin's claim can be proven or not.

What I think is funny is how you are responding to this thread... of course guns don't kill people, people kill people. ...The irony (or BS) is Baldwin saying the gun killed the woman.
In Baldwin's world, that is exactly what he is say... (show quote)


You were not very clear or explicit in your post. It appears I wasn't the only one who did not get your satirical post because it started with, "The myth of "Guns don't kill, people kill people" has finally been proven wrong." Then, you posted a link to a news item. The bottom line, going back to my original response, is that Baldwin is a liar and an idiot. Apparently, you agree?

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Dec 1, 2021 21:37:34   #
vernon
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Are you talking about an actual Colt 45 revolver or a made for the movies Colt 45 prop gun?

A true vintage Colt 45 made in the 1800s would be a high dollar collector's item. The famous pistols from that era available today are replicas.


If it was a colt made in the late 1800s it is single action and it has to be cocked with your thumb before you can fire it.

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Dec 1, 2021 22:46:06   #
Ferrous Loc: Pacific North Coast, CA
 
Vernon, Baldwin stated that he was practicing drawing the weapon and pointing it at he camera. If in fact the Colt was a single action revolver, he would have had to draw, "cock" the weapon, point, and pull the trigger. That's something new to this thread... Thanks

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Dec 2, 2021 01:30:16   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Ferrous wrote:
Vernon, Baldwin stated that he was practicing drawing the weapon and pointing it at he camera. If in fact the Colt was a single action revolver, he would have had to draw, "cock" the weapon, point, and pull the trigger. That's something new to this thread... Thanks
Have you ever owned or even familiarized yourself with the Colt SAA revolver?

There are three notches on the Colt SAA hammer. As you cock the hammer, you will hear (and feel) three distinct clicks as the notches in the hammer engage the trigger sear.

The first click is the safety position, without touching the trigger, a pull of about a quarter inch and an easy release will engage the safety. This position prevents the hammer spur from contacting the primer on a round in the firing chamber and is the position in which a fully loaded revolver should be holstered and carried.

The second click is the half-cock position, finger off trigger, pull hammer to half cock and ease it forward, the trigger sear will engage the second notch, and the cylinder will be free to rotate for loading.

In both the safety position and the half cock, you cannot pull the trigger.

The third click will align the chamber with the bore and the trigger sear will engage the firing notch.

If the Colt SAA revolver has seen considerable use - as is entirely possible with a movie prop gun - the hammer notches and/or the trigger sear could be worn or even broken. Then you have a very dangerous gun in your hands.
The hammer may be free to fall and discharge a round without touching the trigger.

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Dec 2, 2021 09:14:30   #
River Reb Loc: MS Delta
 
Ferrous wrote:
Looks like dtrucker reads the title and starts his pontification before he finished reading my whole thread...

I guess the satire was a bit too complicated for him...

I'm still trying to find out if a vintage Colt 45 can fire without someone pulling the trigger (other than having a Hair Trigger or being dropped???)

A vintage 45 Colt would VERY likely be a "single action" revolver. This means it would have to be cocked before it could be fired. Maybe the bone head cocked the gun while holding the trigger back?

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Dec 2, 2021 09:50:58   #
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