Mornin' my friend. As posted on other threads....

Worth reading thoroughly, neither very long...

https://lawblog.legalmatch.com/2020/12/21/legal-technicalities-to-dismiss-trump-election-lawsuits-are-important-to-the-legal-system/

https://lawblog.legalmatch.com/2020/12/16/trump-election-lawsuits-are-an-embarrassment-to-discrimination-lawsuits/

Also...

https://www.statesman.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/11/26/fact-check-trumps-claim-about-votes-exceeding-voters-in-swing-states/115051852/

Fri, Jan 22, by Leland Shenfield

I am an American.

Trump had already stated he would not concede due to election fraud.

So let’s talk, honestly and fairly, as these are very strong claims:

Trump supporters allege that there is election fraud, and that this election fraud cost Trump the Presidency. They say they have proof that this fraud was widespread and coordinated.

The result of their fervent application of the United States Justice system is the following:

All the courts have thrown out, with prejudice, their claims.

All State Legislatures have thrown out their claims, or just refused to hear them.

The head of security for the elections, appointed by Trump, said that the election was secure and fair. He was fired.

The Attorney General of the United States, probably one of the most ardent Trump supporters that isn’t part of the general population, said there is no evidence of fraud.

IF there was election fraud, it would have had to be massive, coordinated, and multi-state.

As election officials are from all political stripes, Republicans would have to have been complicit in this massive election fraud.

There is not a single election board, Lt. Governor, or election official that says there was any evidence of fraud AT ALL. Not a single one.

The Supreme Court of the United States gave this response to the complaint that came before them: “The application for injunctive relief presented to Justice Alito and by him referred to the Court is denied.” That is SCOTUS-speak for “talk to the hand”.

So, we as Americans have a simple, binary choice:

Trump is arguing with the officials and fans after the game is over, and at the same time setting up a Lost Cause grievance, and his supporters have deluded themselves into believing that there was fraud because they simply cannot accept that they lost. The result of this is that Donald Trump would waive every citizen’s Constitutional rights, effectively destroying the very fabric of this nation in order to support their need for power, OR he lost the election fair and square and our nation continues on. Because in the end, one man or even one party is not important. The strength of our nation is important.

Seriously, it is that simple.

Anyone who would consider such a drastic course of action should consider the following items:

In a democracy, should any one party be able to question the integrity of an election without more than anecdotal evidence?

Once the judicial system has ruled, should any political party that is truly dedicated to the rule of law and the fabric of our republic and its continuation continue to contest the election?

Should any state political party call for a civil war to contest an election?

And finally, and this is important: if a sitting President refuses to accept publicly the outcome of an election that is determined by election officials and the judiciary to be free and fair, whether that president leaves or not, should that ex-president be re-nominated by his political party?

I believe, as a proud American and a republican who has lost his party to nationalistic, jingoistic hooligans, that what the Republican Party did was seditious, unpatriotic, and toxic to our nation.

Save smart, sensible, fiscal conservatism with a heart for the people, an ear for our challenges, and respect for our republic.

Fri, Jan 22, by Leland Shenfield

I am an American.

Trump had already stated he would not concede due to election fraud.

So let’s talk, honestly and fairly, as these are very strong claims:

Trump supporters allege that there is election fraud, and that this election fraud cost Trump the Presidency. They say they have proof that this fraud was widespread and coordinated.

The result of their fervent application of the United States Justice system is the following:

All the courts have thrown out, with prejudice, their claims.

All State Legislatures have thrown out their claims, or just refused to hear them.

The head of security for the elections, appointed by Trump, said that the election was secure and fair. He was fired.

The Attorney General of the United States, probably one of the most ardent Trump supporters that isn’t part of the general population, said there is no evidence of fraud.

IF there was election fraud, it would have had to be massive, coordinated, and multi-state.

As election officials are from all political stripes, Republicans would have to have been complicit in this massive election fraud.

There is not a single election board, Lt. Governor, or election official that says there was any evidence of fraud AT ALL. Not a single one.

The Supreme Court of the United States gave this response to the complaint that came before them: “The application for injunctive relief presented to Justice Alito and by him referred to the Court is denied.” That is SCOTUS-speak for “talk to the hand”.

So, we as Americans have a simple, binary choice:

Trump is arguing with the officials and fans after the game is over, and at the same time setting up a Lost Cause grievance, and his supporters have deluded themselves into believing that there was fraud because they simply cannot accept that they lost. The result of this is that Donald Trump would waive every citizen’s Constitutional rights, effectively destroying the very fabric of this nation in order to support their need for power, OR he lost the election fair and square and our nation continues on. Because in the end, one man or even one party is not important. The strength of our nation is important.

Seriously, it is that simple.

Anyone who would consider such a drastic course of action should consider the following items:

In a democracy, should any one party be able to question the integrity of an election without more than anecdotal evidence?

Once the judicial system has ruled, should any political party that is truly dedicated to the rule of law and the fabric of our republic and its continuation continue to contest the election?

Should any state political party call for a civil war to contest an election?

And finally, and this is important: if a sitting President refuses to accept publicly the outcome of an election that is determined by election officials and the judiciary to be free and fair, whether that president leaves or not, should that ex-president be re-nominated by his political party?

I believe, as a proud American and a republican who has lost his party to nationalistic, jingoistic hooligans, that what the Republican Party did was seditious, unpatriotic, and toxic to our nation.

Save smart, sensible, fiscal conservatism with a heart for the people, an ear for our challenges, and respect for our republic.

It's simply not possible that there are enough people in America with your diminished capacity of discernment, to have actually cast a vote for an addle brained simpleton like Creepy Joe.

Therefore, it is correct to surmise that we will continue to remain confident that this act treason has become the most fraudulent election in American history.

We will also continue to support president Trump and as long as he lives we will regard him as the legitimate US president.

I personally am exceedingly amused by the very idea that you poor dumb Goobers actually accept this dufus as your leader.

I can't take your brand of humor anymore...and, since you brought 'TDS' up:

Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) is a satirical psychological diagnosis used to explain the hysterical reaction and belligerent behavior of people, pro or con, generally directed towards anything related to President Donald Trump as pertaining to his presidency. It isn't intended to be a logical argument, rather a jab at another individual's excessive emotional reactions as well as aggressive physical displays. It is an ad hominem argument, not a strawman argument as suggested by definition...and, there are numerous variations on TDS, all of which have their own particular partisan/ideological twist.

TDS was originally a made-up condition, conceived as an insult label by the alt-right to attack anyone who criticizes or refuses to support Donald Trump. The idea being the left is so obsessed with Trump they have collectively lost their minds. Like many of their other little online crusades, this one has backfired. People dislike Trump for actual reasons which often go well beyond just politics or partisanship, and if anyone has Trump Derangement Syndrome it's those on the right that blindly support him. They have lost their sense of morality, religious convictions, principles, objectivity, all discernment, and even the ability to have a civil discussion or reason. So the term has now been co-opted by others to refer to Trump supporters who are blinded by their unrealistic devotion to Trump.

The origin of the term 'Trump Derangement Syndrome' is traced to political columnist and conservative commentator Charles Krauthammer, a psychiatrist, who originally coined the phrase 'Bush derangement syndrome' in 2003 during the presidency of George W. Bush. That syndrome was defined by Krauthammer as "the acute onset of paranoia in otherwise normal people in reaction to the policies, the presidency – nay – the very existence of George W. Bush." The first use of the term 'Trump Derangement Syndrome' may have been by Esther Goldberg in an August 2015 op-ed in The American Spectator; She applied the term to "Ruling Class Republicans" who are dismissive or contemptuous of Trump. Krauthammer, himself a harsh critic of Trump, later defined "Trump derangement syndrome" as a Trump-induced "general hysteria" among the chattering classes, producing an "inability to distinguish between legitimate policy differences and ... signs of psychic pathology" in the President's behavior.

Fri, Jan 22, by Leland Shenfield

I am an American.

Trump had already stated he would not concede due to election fraud.

So let’s talk, honestly and fairly, as these are very strong claims:

Trump supporters allege that there is election fraud, and that this election fraud cost Trump the Presidency. They say they have proof that this fraud was widespread and coordinated.

The result of their fervent application of the United States Justice system is the following:

All the courts have thrown out, with prejudice, their claims.

All State Legislatures have thrown out their claims, or just refused to hear them.

The head of security for the elections, appointed by Trump, said that the election was secure and fair. He was fired.

The Attorney General of the United States, probably one of the most ardent Trump supporters that isn’t part of the general population, said there is no evidence of fraud.

IF there was election fraud, it would have had to be massive, coordinated, and multi-state.

As election officials are from all political stripes, Republicans would have to have been complicit in this massive election fraud.

There is not a single election board, Lt. Governor, or election official that says there was any evidence of fraud AT ALL. Not a single one.

The Supreme Court of the United States gave this response to the complaint that came before them: “The application for injunctive relief presented to Justice Alito and by him referred to the Court is denied.” That is SCOTUS-speak for “talk to the hand”.

So, we as Americans have a simple, binary choice:

Trump is arguing with the officials and fans after the game is over, and at the same time setting up a Lost Cause grievance, and his supporters have deluded themselves into believing that there was fraud because they simply cannot accept that they lost. The result of this is that Donald Trump would waive every citizen’s Constitutional rights, effectively destroying the very fabric of this nation in order to support their need for power, OR he lost the election fair and square and our nation continues on. Because in the end, one man or even one party is not important. The strength of our nation is important.

Seriously, it is that simple.

Anyone who would consider such a drastic course of action should consider the following items:

In a democracy, should any one party be able to question the integrity of an election without more than anecdotal evidence?

Once the judicial system has ruled, should any political party that is truly dedicated to the rule of law and the fabric of our republic and its continuation continue to contest the election?

Should any state political party call for a civil war to contest an election?

And finally, and this is important: if a sitting President refuses to accept publicly the outcome of an election that is determined by election officials and the judiciary to be free and fair, whether that president leaves or not, should that ex-president be re-nominated by his political party?

I believe, as a proud American and a republican who has lost his party to nationalistic, jingoistic hooligans, that what the Republican Party did was seditious, unpatriotic, and toxic to our nation.

Save smart, sensible, fiscal conservatism with a heart for the people, an ear for our challenges, and respect for our republic.