JohnCorrespondent

That is not good enough. Under your proposal: A large portion of the people who believe the pandemic is a real and serious thing (and have known so since long before Trump admitted it publicly -- I think he's publicly admitted it's real, somewhere along the line), and who take precautions for their own health and that of others, would then be forced to choose between increasing the risk to themselves and others, by voting in person, or not voting to maintain those precautions. Some of them will even be in quarantine because they tested positive -- there are more and more of those now.

And why not the mailbox: the myth of "voter fraud" (not to be confused with other kinds of election tricks).

So under your system you'll either lose some of the most intelligent votes, thereby decreasing the intelligence of the average vote; or, if they vote anyway then you'll kill off more people and make many more chronically sick. Or, even if _they_ don't vote, you'll _still_ kill off more people and make many more chronically sick, because more people (of many kinds) would be voting in person in a pandemic.

But if the voting is spaced out, and outside, then it might work alright (if you allowed the quarantined people to come out and vote). That would be a more intelligent plan than just having the voters crowd indoors (in a pandemic) in lines, to vote.

Another way to make it work would be to have "drop boxes" for ballots. We've seen how that works or doesn't work. When done in the spirit of obstruction (reducing the number of drop boxes so they can't realistically serve the population) or when done fraudulently (one party sets up drop boxes to collect the other party's votes, in drop boxes falsely labeled official), then it doesn't work well. But if done honestly with the intent that all legal voters should be able to easily vote, then drop boxes would be a great idea. (Don't forget they might need some kind of balanced supervision or locked condition, to avoid, for example, theft of the ballots in them.)

Mail-in voting would not work if you could destroy the postal service just before the election. I believe that's been tried. Another way to sabotage mail-in voting would be to make it difficult to get the ballots far enough in advance of the election so that they could be mailed in time to make a difference. That would be coupled with, as you have phrased it, "No late ballots" if you mean something like a deadline which is difficult or impossible to meet. There are _lots_ of ways to sabotage or manipulate an election. Among them voter fraud is the least effective, maybe one of the least common, and affects the least number of votes! I believe it's also relatively easy to detect, when or if it's tried.

For more about election tricks, read Greg Palast, who's been studying them for 20 years and writing books about them.

It may be amusing to contemplate (though maybe dangerous if it actually occurs) that "taking it to the streets" might actually be effective in overturning an election -- dangerous if guns are involved, and a real shame and bad thing if the election being overturned is an honest one. Amusing because a lot of the people who want to do it (present company excluded) don't seem very smart. But anyone can pull a trigger; that's why some martial arts movies are set on islands where no guns are allowed. And no, don't try a lot of karate violence in the streets either.

I heard that Trump himself votes by mail! (Also that he made some sort of mistake which would qualify as voter fraud if it were done deliberately.) Well, one thing we know is that he encouraged lots of people to vote twice. _Then_ "voter fraud" would become significant. And so _then_ it might be easier for him to overturn the entire national election.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

I'm not so sure we should wait, at this point.

debeda

Be sure to give BLM and Antifa that heads up

debeda

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debeda

I don't think President Trump will run in 2024.

debeda

Not if we don't clean up our act with voter fraud we won't

maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee

Probably not, but then he didn't write the report.

maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee

Trump was not divisive...the liberal Democratic party was.

patouchton

Look how that worked in 2020.

peg w

Remember, that anyone who doesn't belive Biden won the electoral college is doing a seditious act. Anything Trump dose to prevent Biden from becoming president is sedition. Elections have consequences.

debeda

Completely agree!!!

debeda

You're confused. Look up the definition of sedition then tell us who has been seditious for the past 4 years....

trashbaum

Elections have consequences. A croc used only for Republicans, Democrats can be as dishonest as anyone can dream. Sorry peg w but that also makes you one of the most dishonest people on earth.

debeda

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