JohnCorrespondent

At least some of the current ones do have a paper trail, which, when re-counted, yielded essentially (within tolerance) the same count as the machines gave. Where that's true, I would have no problem with those v****g machines.

JohnCorrespondent

Is that in Illinois?

Our here in California the mail b****ts looked anything but random.

debeda

Random in the sense they were sent out to all registered v**ers when in many states the rolls havent been purged in 20 years or even more. California is one of those states, they were part of the lawsuit in 2018 and 2019 where the states were given until 2022 to clean up their rolls.

JohnCorrespondent

Why would they count a b****t if it didn't match a record in the v**er files?

If you wanted to invent a random, haphazard v****g system, then sure, you could mess up an e******n. The whole point, this year, is that the e******n system ISN'T random nor haphazard. Trump keeps challenging it, and the states keep recounting and auditing, and the courts keep finding his lawsuits groundless. The result keeps coming out the same: Biden won. Fair and square.

Imagine, if you will, a perfect e******n system; how would you detect that it was perfect? How would you know it wasn't just some random haphazard mish-mash? Would you simply ask the loser and accept wh**ever he says at face value? Would you keep challenging it at every turn, no matter how perfect it came out at every challenge? When would you stop?

JohnCorrespondent

Oh, I had not heard of that.

I wouldn't call that "random", but still it is a valid point (if true); thank you.

So, at least one of the Trump lawsuits should (well, "might") be about this. What happened to that one? I doubt that the difference would be enough to change the overall result.

debeda

In states where i*****l a***ns are allowed to obtain driver's licenses a percentage of them also r******r to v**e at the same time.

debeda

Georgia was another state with this problem. As was Nevada, and a number of others. I think there was fraud on a number of levels. At o'hare airport last summer a shipment meant for Joliet, I believe, was intercepted from China of boxes of counterfeit money, and boxes of f**e, high quality, drivers licenses, same pictures with numerous names and addresses throughout Illinois. It was in our local paper, then I never heard a follow up. Lots of bizarre things. As far as enough fraud to change the e******n, Clark county, Nevada, through an internal audit, found 132,000 cases of ineligible v**ers. This amount was compiled of long deceased v**ers, v**ers registered to nonexistent addresses, noncitizen v**ers and non resident v**ers. I think it was the county commissioner who did an interview on this late last week.

trashbaum

Why would they count a b****t if it didn't match a file? Well it is called c***ting, a deliberate attempt to count a nonexisting b****t, as many as they can manufacture.