EmilyD

Biden's Dr. Michael Osterholm, an infectious-disease specialist and a member of Mr. Biden's recently appointed COVID-19 advisory team, spoke with Yahoo! Finance on November 11 about measures the U.S. could take to curtail the virus' spread. One option he said is worth considering: Imposing a four-to-six week shutdown of the country while providing workers, small business owners and local governments with hundreds of billions in financial aid to tide them over, he noted. "We have a big pool of money out there that we could borrow, at historic low interest rates by the federal government. We could pay for a package right now to cover all of the lost wages for individual workers, losses to small companies and medium-sized companies, for cities, states, county governments," Osterholm said in the interview.

And who is going to pay back that money, Lonewolf? You and I with higher taxes. And who will pay for the Green New Deal that Biden said he will implement, Lonewolf? You and I with higher taxes. What is that "big pool of money" Osterholm is talking about? OUR tax money!! We're talking billions of dollars in taxes!! That's a huge chunk of taxpayer's money. Good luck with that! You may like paying more taxes than ever before, but a LOT of Americans, including Democrats, will not!

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/joe-biden-adviser-covid-lockdown-proposal-michal-osterholm/

Tug484

It's sad.

moldyoldy

debeda

Even China's own press releases says Beijing was NOT locked down early on...

debeda

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debeda

AGREED 😠

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

No... It doesn't...

Beijing was locked down at the same time as my own city... And remained locked down after we had already opened...

But if you have a source I'd be inerested in seeing it...

debeda

https://www.who.int/bulletin/volumes/98/7/20-254045/en/

Travel restrictions from wuhan, not lockdowns

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

99% of travel was curtailed according to this... Yes, food and essential services like medical workers and equipment were still moving...

Normal people weren't going anywhere...

debeda

Our lockdown was stricter and further reaching by this metric

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

How so???

Your entire nation (99%) didn't spend months inside their homes....

debeda

We spent the last half of March and most of April in our homes. Then some states began to open up. From the WHO report it appears that, other than Wuhan and it's province, other provinces were allowed freedom of movement within their provinces, just no travel. You might find this John Hopkins report interesting.


https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2020/11/27/johns-hopkins-study-saying-covid-19-has-relatively-no-effect-on-deaths-in-u-s-deleted-after-publication-n1178930

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

If you could go shopping at the market, or even just drive around, you didn't have the same level we did...

No provinces allowed freedom of movement in any form until early April... And then it was severely limited...

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

I've read the article several times now... John Hopkins has explained... And the information it contains is inaccurate... You can check the CDC numbers yourself...

debeda

Yes, I have. Deaths from "common" causes are all way down for the period from March 1, 2020.
I do not believe, nor have I observed, nor have any of the many people I talk to from many states observed, any of the mismanagement, crowded hospitals or widespread illness that this "second wave" is supposed to be generating. When you talk to hospital nurses, they do not experience that either, and they would be the ones to know. From all of the data (from both sides) and all the first hand observations, a picture emerges of a gross overreaction to this flu strain. Yes, the flu strain has some components of an autoimmune disease (and I'd like to know how that happened) which is why therapeutics like remsidivir (developed for AIDS), and hydrochloroquine (widely used for lupus and RA) are effective. But say what you like, something is rotten in Denmark with this "pandemic".