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Nov 28, 2020 00:55:54   #
debeda
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
If you could go shopping at the market, or even just drive around, you didn't have the same level we did...

No provinces allowed freedom of movement in any form until early April... And then it was severely limited...


Shopping was limited. And drive around? To where, everything was closed. So I suppose we could drive around aimlessly like teens if we chose but to what point? And for what purpose?

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Nov 28, 2020 02:18:32   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
debeda wrote:
Yes, I have. Deaths from "common" causes are all way down for the period from March 1, 2020.
I do not believe, nor have I observed, nor have any of the many people I talk to from many states observed, any of the mismanagement, crowded hospitals or widespread illness that this "second wave" is supposed to be generating. When you talk to hospital nurses, they do not experience that either, and they would be the ones to know. From all of the data (from both sides) and all the first hand observations, a picture emerges of a gross overreaction to this flu strain. Yes, the flu strain has some components of an autoimmune disease (and I'd like to know how that happened) which is why therapeutics like remsidivir (developed for AIDS), and hydrochloroquine (widely used for lupus and RA) are effective. But say what you like, something is rotten in Denmark with this "p******c".
Yes, I have. Deaths from "common" causes... (show quote)


In Oregon I have a friend who is a nurse... And my cousin was a nurse just over the border from thunder Bay until May this year...

Both tell a different story...

Even my pepper cousin in Spokane (she's an oncologist) doesn't think this is a h**x...

Autoimmune diseases aren't caused by v***ses or bacteria... But by our own i****e s****ms.. Nor are they contagious... I doubt that c***d could have a component that could trigger such a response...

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Nov 28, 2020 02:24:28   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
debeda wrote:
Shopping was limited. And drive around? To where, everything was closed. So I suppose we could drive around aimlessly like teens if we chose but to what point? And for what purpose?


But people could go out... Which wasn't possible here...

Even during the second month we were only allowed a single member of the household to go out every second day...

And what happened if an American decided to break the lockdown??? Over here people were jailed ...

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Nov 28, 2020 02:39:54   #
debeda
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
In Oregon I have a friend who is a nurse... And my cousin was a nurse just over the border from thunder Bay until May this year...

Both tell a different story...

Even my pepper cousin in Spokane (she's an oncologist) doesn't think this is a h**x...

Autoimmune diseases aren't caused by v***ses or bacteria... But by our own i****e s****ms.. Nor are they contagious... I doubt that c***d could have a component that could trigger such a response...


I disagree. Part of the autoimmune type response is that oxygen won't bind to the blood cells. So a respirator pumps air into lungs, often damaging them, and still the other organs begin to fail for lack of oxygen. The other autoimmune type response is that the body becomes overloaded by the v***s that creates a cyco something response, and your i****e s****m starts attacking everything. At this point you can kiss your butt goodbye 98% of the time. So the zinc is a good treatment for the blood response, as it keeps the v***s from binding to and disabling as many of the red blood cells, and the remsidivir or hydrochloroquine keeps your body from having the cyco-wh**ever storm. Antibiotics treat any secondary infections, particularly pneumonia, which is a danger with any kind of cold or flu, especially in certain populations. This is what current effective therapeutics are based on. If you ask your nurse friends about what I have specifically said they will understand and should agree, if they are currently treating any C***d patients.
PS I don't think the v***s is a h**x, I think the response was completely overblown, and the early treatment protocols were dead wrong.

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Nov 28, 2020 02:46:11   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
debeda wrote:
I disagree. Part of the autoimmune type response is that oxygen won't bind to the blood cells. So a respirator pumps air into lungs, often damaging them, and still the other organs begin to fail for lack of oxygen. The other autoimmune type response is that the body becomes overloaded by the v***s that creates a cyco something response, and your i****e s****m starts attacking everything. At this point you can kiss your butt goodbye 98% of the time. So the zinc is a good treatment for the blood response, as it keeps the v***s from binding to and disabling as many of the red blood cells, and the remsidivir or hydrochloroquine keeps your body from having the cyco-wh**ever storm. Antibiotics treat any secondary infections, particularly pneumonia, which is a danger with any kind of cold or flu, especially in certain populations. This is what current effective therapeutics are based on. If you ask your nurse friends about what I have specifically said they will understand and should agree, if they are currently treating any C***d patients.
PS I don't think the v***s is a h**x, I think the response was completely overblown, and the early treatment protocols were dead wrong.
I disagree. Part of the autoimmune type response i... (show quote)


I agree concerning zinc and other preventatives..

And I agree that America has handled the v***s wrong....

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Nov 28, 2020 02:57:51   #
debeda
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
I agree concerning zinc and other preventatives..

And I agree that America has handled the v***s wrong....


Everyone, as far as early treatment. Not just the United states

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Nov 28, 2020 03:17:08   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
debeda wrote:
Everyone, as far as early treatment. Not just the United states


Some nations responded better than others...

The West didn't do well...

It's that independent streak we have...

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Nov 28, 2020 03:19:24   #
debeda
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Some nations responded better than others...

The West didn't do well...

It's that independent streak we have...


I'm talking about treatment. Ventilation is a poor treatment.

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Nov 28, 2020 03:30:17   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
debeda wrote:
I'm talking about treatment. Ventilation is a poor treatment.


Agreed... But that wasn't known at the time...

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Nov 28, 2020 03:50:05   #
debeda
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Agreed... But that wasn't known at the time...


Right. But again, we know more now. There are effective therapeutic treatments. These continued lockdowns are ridiculous. Those at increased risk can continue to take precautions, and apply for help to do so, and funding should be available for that. But countrywide/statewide lockdowns need to stop. And schools need to open.

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Nov 28, 2020 03:51:21   #
debeda
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Agreed... But that wasn't known at the time...


Did you get my PM BTW?

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Nov 28, 2020 03:54:34   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
debeda wrote:
Right. But again, we know more now. There are effective therapeutic treatments. These continued lockdowns are ridiculous. Those at increased risk can continue to take precautions, and apply for help to do so, and funding should be available for that. But countrywide/statewide lockdowns need to stop. And schools need to open.


I agree... A second lockdown would be even more ineffective than the first at this point...

Too late for it now...

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Nov 28, 2020 03:55:36   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
debeda wrote:
Did you get my PM BTW?


Sorry... I started it and then my daughter did a face dive off of the trampoline...

I'll reread it in a moment... Just going on a chicken run

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Nov 28, 2020 04:00:20   #
debeda
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Sorry... I started it and then my daughter did a face dive off of the trampoline...

I'll reread it in a moment... Just going on a chicken run


Awe, poor little girl😥

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Nov 28, 2020 04:34:07   #
Singularity
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Unfortunately, y'all never had a first lockdown... Which is why the second lockdown will be just as useless...

We are the nation of people that fully understand just how dirty the floor is, but invent and support the 5 second rule.

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