Capt-jack wrote:
Your ignorance is awesome, I never worked for a union, and one night at dinner with 3 other couples
pay/money cam up, all of my buddies had degrees and I never graduated from college. Well, it turned out I made a lot more than any of them, which did not go over very well.
Unions keep the smart ones down, but they do hold up the incompetence to make more then possible if not for the union.
If you look at the Soviet Union, that had unions lots of them, I always wondered why. I think the union keeps everyone in line, plus any talk of dissension would be heard right away.
Unions are a dead end, you can not get ahead unless you go on strick. Without the union, if you are good
at your job, the company can and will pay you more, this is not possible with a union, all must be paid the same.
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jack,, no surprise, I said you had never worked with a union... the lose of unions, most notable under Reagan, was one of the final nails in the coffin of the middle class.. along with the writings from the 70s which demonized the labor section of an economy as an enemy rather then an equal part..
without union representation the average wage earner is underpaid, deprived of opportunity and left with out recourse...
The existence of a union or even the idea of one, also affects the pay/opportunity of low level non-union employees..
If you think a business 1.. gives out jobs as a kindness because they have a lot of money laying around you are among the most gullible in our nation.. Jobs are only given if great need.. the last thing a business wants to do is bring in any new jobs. Only when the need dictates is that done..
And every large business also has people/a person who has the job of keeping pay as low as possible.. with no representation and support from a union the pay and perks will be as low as the subsistence level..
And while Unions and cost of labor are always posed as the great reason for the flood to off shore our mfg economy, as my post stated the real reason was and is to this very day.. the refusal of corporation to invest in our country.. using money from all sources to buy back stock rather the invest demands that they have to find options for the lost infrastructure in the USA. That sends them off shore to the lowest cost country they can find. that is lowest in every way, not only labor but construction , transportation and any other operation cost they can reduce..
And again the law that allowed this to happen was passed during the republican administration of Reagan.. that law, along with citizens united are the two major events in the 20th century which have nearly destroyed the middle class.. and trump promises much more of the same..
the fact that you were happy with your wage means not a thing. all of the middle class must be healthy and robust for a strong America, not only a chosen few..
Henry Ford knew this and made the well paid 8 hour day a normal for the workers of America..
And he did it not for the workers but so that he as an auto maker would have the large population who could afford to buy his cars..