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Why Is Everything Trump Promises Such A Secret...Like His New Healthcare "Plan"
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Sep 16, 2020 23:08:39   #
woodguru
 
The right should have rolled out ideas three years ago so that the american public can see what the great plan is. If it really is good it will be supported, if it is good it will withstand GAO and CBO scrutiny and reports on the true costs of the ideas. If it has good elements it can be modified out to where it works.

You do not end what gives 20 million people healthcare before having a viable working replacement ready to roll. Republicans roll out ill conceived trash like the tax cuts that they are jamming together in secrecy the night before rolling it out for a vote, and it is obvious to anyone following this that the administration is ending Obamacare without provisions for pre existing conditions.

This just sounds like pure stupidity the way macaninny says the president has a good plan ready but nobody can see it, it would be proudly rolled out if it exists, which it obviously doesn't.

This will be his campaign promise, he has a great plan ready but you have to vote him in to see it...well he ran that con the last time and we haven't seen squat. It's embarrassing to think that people are ignorant enough to fall for this twice.

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Sep 16, 2020 23:29:35   #
Seth
 
woodguru wrote:
The right should have rolled out ideas three years ago so that the american public can see what the great plan is. If it really is good it will be supported, if it is good it will withstand GAO and CBO scrutiny and reports on the true costs of the ideas. If it has good elements it can be modified out to where it works.

You do not end what gives 20 million people healthcare before having a viable working replacement ready to roll. Republicans roll out ill conceived trash like the tax cuts that they are jamming together in secrecy the night before rolling it out for a vote, and it is obvious to anyone following this that the administration is ending Obamacare without provisions for pre existing conditions.

This just sounds like pure stupidity the way macaninny says the president has a good plan ready but nobody can see it, it would be proudly rolled out if it exists, which it obviously doesn't.

This will be his campaign promise, he has a great plan ready but you have to vote him in to see it...well he ran that con the last time and we haven't seen squat. It's embarrassing to think that people are ignorant enough to fall for this twice.
The right should have rolled out ideas three years... (show quote)


Trump has already learned the hard way that if he announces plans too long before he intends to implement them or before the basic elements are in place, the Democrats and the mainstream media will twist his words and intentions around like a pretzel, misrepresenting, propagandizing and outright lying to disinform the public and make a good plan sound like a despicable racist plot geared towards crushing the poor and bolstering the rich, yadda yadda...

Your ilk seems to think that everyone is stupid enough to let you do the same rotten things to them over and over, and when they don't, you complain and condemn them for it.

You ilk does that on every level -- look at the manufacturing business, for example, under Obama's presidency: your fearless leaders tax and regulate these companies into the ground, and when they've finally taken all the abuse they can and take their business out of the country, you yell that they're leaving because they're greedy, and blame the resulting unemployment on their "greed."

Yet when Trump dumps the over- regulation and decreases what was the highest corporate tax rate in the world to something more reasonable and they all come back along with American jobs, rather than admit that Trump did the right thing you attack him for it.

Your disgusting ilk acts like a bunch of spoiled five year olds. Grow the hell up already.

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Sep 16, 2020 23:36:36   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Seth wrote:
Trump has already learned the hard way that if he announces plans too long before he intends to implement them or before the basic elements are in place, the Democrats and the mainstream media will twist his words and intentions around like a pretzel, misrepresenting, propagandizing and outright lying to disinform the public and make a good plan sound like a despicable racist plot geared towards crushing the poor and bolstering the rich, yadda yadda...

Your ilk seems to think that everyone is stupid enough to let you do the same rotten things to them over and over, and when they don't, you complain and condemn them for it.

You ilk does that on every level -- look at the manufacturing business, for example, under Obama's presidency: your fearless leaders tax and regulate these companies into the ground, and when they've finally taken all the abuse they can and take their business out of the country, you yell that they're leaving because they're greedy, and blame the resulting unemployment on their "greed."

Yet when Trump dumps the over- regulation and decreases what was the highest corporate tax rate in the world to something more reasonable and they all come back along with American jobs, rather than admit that Trump did the right thing you attack him for it.

Your disgusting ilk acts like a bunch of spoiled five year olds. Grow the hell up already.
Trump has already learned the hard way that if he ... (show quote)
Bravo, Seth! Bravo, Bro.



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Sep 16, 2020 23:39:15   #
Seth
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Bravo, Seth! Bravo, Bro.



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Sep 17, 2020 01:42:58   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
woodguru wrote:
The right should have rolled out ideas three years ago so that the american public can see what the great plan is. If it really is good it will be supported, if it is good it will withstand GAO and CBO scrutiny and reports on the true costs of the ideas. If it has good elements it can be modified out to where it works.

You do not end what gives 20 million people healthcare before having a viable working replacement ready to roll. Republicans roll out ill conceived trash like the tax cuts that they are jamming together in secrecy the night before rolling it out for a vote, and it is obvious to anyone following this that the administration is ending Obamacare without provisions for pre existing conditions.

This just sounds like pure stupidity the way macaninny says the president has a good plan ready but nobody can see it, it would be proudly rolled out if it exists, which it obviously doesn't.

This will be his campaign promise, he has a great plan ready but you have to vote him in to see it...well he ran that con the last time and we haven't seen squat. It's embarrassing to think that people are ignorant enough to fall for this twice.
The right should have rolled out ideas three years... (show quote)


Are you nuts? The plan was to expose how evil the deep state swamp truly is. That mission is almost over. I believe the only thing left to do, is to wrap and put a bow on all the treasonous behavior. That should wipe out most politicians on both sides. I'd call that a win-win.

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Sep 17, 2020 03:53:54   #
RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia
 
woodguru wrote:
The right should have rolled out ideas three years ago so that the american public can see what the great plan is. If it really is good it will be supported, if it is good it will withstand GAO and CBO scrutiny and reports on the true costs of the ideas. If it has good elements it can be modified out to where it works.

You do not end what gives 20 million people healthcare before having a viable working replacement ready to roll. Republicans roll out ill conceived trash like the tax cuts that they are jamming together in secrecy the night before rolling it out for a vote, and it is obvious to anyone following this that the administration is ending Obamacare without provisions for pre existing conditions.

This just sounds like pure stupidity the way macaninny says the president has a good plan ready but nobody can see it, it would be proudly rolled out if it exists, which it obviously doesn't.

This will be his campaign promise, he has a great plan ready but you have to vote him in to see it...well he ran that con the last time and we haven't seen squat. It's embarrassing to think that people are ignorant enough to fall for this twice.
The right should have rolled out ideas three years... (show quote)


What we have here is a cultural divide not a political divide, equal opportunity enemies in the kitchen banging pots and pans so the living room lazy bunkins can't hear the TV, like a cast system prohibiting emancipation the topics change while the situation stays the same and the problem is diagnosed as a wealth trap.

It's no use saying to a slave, freedom is not everything even though it's very true, Obama care is a great achievement for people who can't afford medical comforts if you take that away the cast of the left will be blessed, Trump's moving from the fence to log on to the centre, last place is where he doesn't want to be.

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Sep 17, 2020 04:29:23   #
EmilyD
 
RT friend wrote:
What we have here is a cultural divide not a political divide, equal opportunity enemies in the kitchen banging pots and pans so the living room lazy bunkins can't hear the TV, like a cast system prohibiting emancipation the topics change while the situation stays the same and the problem is diagnosed as a wealth trap.

It's no use saying to a slave, freedom is not everything even though it's very true, Obama care is a great achievement for people who can't afford medical comforts if you take that away the cast of the left will be blessed, Trump's moving from the fence to log on to the centre, last place is where he doesn't want to be.
What we have here is a cultural divide not a polit... (show quote)


Obamacare is a great achievement for people who can't afford medical comforts??? I guess middle and low income people just don't matter to you? Because they are the ones who cannot afford to pay premiums in the neighborhood of $6,000 per person per year and deductibles around $7,000 per person per year. And if you have children, even more. That's at least $13,000 per year! That may not seem like much to you, but when you only have an income of $30,000 or $40,000, those costs are too much....certainly not "affordable" in any sense of the word.

Americans had Obamacare stuffed down their throats. It was so long, detailed and full of add-ons that Nancy Pelosi made her famous statement "We must pass it, so we can read it". It turned out to be extremely unpopular with the American populace during and after its evaluations in Congress. Young, healthy people, who were supposed to be the main contributors to the plan, were not buying it. They didn't like the mandate that you MUST buy into it or pay a yearly fine that increased every year you did not sign up for it. Nobody likes to be told you have to do something, or you will be penalized. And young people rebelled against it. The IRS was supposed to monitor the fines, which would have been a huge mess. Business Insider stated that the AHCA was "the least popular major bill in decades", and major medical organizations, including the American Medical Association and the American Academy of Pediatrics, strongly condemned the bill.

After trying several times and being rejected by Congress, [specifically with the "Better Care Rehabilitation Act" (BCRA)], Trump enacted the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, which at least got rid of the mandate. People who could not afford the "Affordable" Care Act, just went without health care, but at least they weren't penalized for it.

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Sep 17, 2020 06:12:04   #
Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas
 
woodguru wrote:
The right should have rolled out ideas three years ago so that the american public can see what the great plan is. If it really is good it will be supported, if it is good it will withstand GAO and CBO scrutiny and reports on the true costs of the ideas. If it has good elements it can be modified out to where it works.

You do not end what gives 20 million people healthcare before having a viable working replacement ready to roll. Republicans roll out ill conceived trash like the tax cuts that they are jamming together in secrecy the night before rolling it out for a vote, and it is obvious to anyone following this that the administration is ending Obamacare without provisions for pre existing conditions.

This just sounds like pure stupidity the way macaninny says the president has a good plan ready but nobody can see it, it would be proudly rolled out if it exists, which it obviously doesn't.

This will be his campaign promise, he has a great plan ready but you have to vote him in to see it...well he ran that con the last time and we haven't seen squat. It's embarrassing to think that people are ignorant enough to fall for this twice.
The right should have rolled out ideas three years... (show quote)




Nah....pure stupid would be to let you insane liberals know anything, good or bad.

Simply put.......your team couldn't, and shouldn't be trusted with a damn thing......much less something important to better the country.

Now go get a job and quit whining already.

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Sep 17, 2020 06:44:56   #
PeterS
 
Seth wrote:
Trump has already learned the hard way that if he announces plans too long before he intends to implement them or before the basic elements are in place, the Democrats and the mainstream media will twist his words and intentions around like a pretzel, misrepresenting, propagandizing and outright lying to disinform the public and make a good plan sound like a despicable racist plot geared towards crushing the poor and bolstering the rich, yadda yadda...

Your ilk seems to think that everyone is stupid enough to let you do the same rotten things to them over and over, and when they don't, you complain and condemn them for it.

You ilk does that on every level -- look at the manufacturing business, for example, under Obama's presidency: your fearless leaders tax and regulate these companies into the ground, and when they've finally taken all the abuse they can and take their business out of the country, you yell that they're leaving because they're greedy, and blame the resulting unemployment on their "greed."

Yet when Trump dumps the over- regulation and decreases what was the highest corporate tax rate in the world to something more reasonable and they all come back along with American jobs, rather than admit that Trump did the right thing you attack him for it.

Your disgusting ilk acts like a bunch of spoiled five year olds. Grow the hell up already.
Trump has already learned the hard way that if he ... (show quote)


So how have the dastardly Democrats twisted Trumps healthcare program into a pretzel? Wouldn't Trump have to have a healthcare program in order for E-VILE Democrats to be able to 'pretzelize' it? And American jobs came back??? So why does your MAGA hat still have a "MADE IN CHINA" label in it and why was job creation under the first three years of Trump lower than the last three years of Obama? If he was bringing jobs back shouldn't he have created more jobs, not fewer than his despised predecessor? You've been sold a bill-of-goods by a reality TV star and are too busy blaming others to realize it.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/06/economy/trump-obama-jobs-comparison/index.html

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Sep 17, 2020 07:28:02   #
Tiptop789 Loc: State of Denial
 
woodguru wrote:
The right should have rolled out ideas three years ago so that the american public can see what the great plan is. If it really is good it will be supported, if it is good it will withstand GAO and CBO scrutiny and reports on the true costs of the ideas. If it has good elements it can be modified out to where it works.

You do not end what gives 20 million people healthcare before having a viable working replacement ready to roll. Republicans roll out ill conceived trash like the tax cuts that they are jamming together in secrecy the night before rolling it out for a vote, and it is obvious to anyone following this that the administration is ending Obamacare without provisions for pre existing conditions.

This just sounds like pure stupidity the way macaninny says the president has a good plan ready but nobody can see it, it would be proudly rolled out if it exists, which it obviously doesn't.

This will be his campaign promise, he has a great plan ready but you have to vote him in to see it...well he ran that con the last time and we haven't seen squat. It's embarrassing to think that people are ignorant enough to fall for this twice.
The right should have rolled out ideas three years... (show quote)


Because there isn't a good plan from trump, it's only good for nothing. Trump has nothing but hate & spite. His disdain for Americans is unparalleled.

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Sep 17, 2020 08:15:19   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
woodguru wrote:
The right should have rolled out ideas three years ago so that the american public can see what the great plan is. If it really is good it will be supported, if it is good it will withstand GAO and CBO scrutiny and reports on the true costs of the ideas. If it has good elements it can be modified out to where it works.

You do not end what gives 20 million people healthcare before having a viable working replacement ready to roll. Republicans roll out ill conceived trash like the tax cuts that they are jamming together in secrecy the night before rolling it out for a vote, and it is obvious to anyone following this that the administration is ending Obamacare without provisions for pre existing conditions.

This just sounds like pure stupidity the way macaninny says the president has a good plan ready but nobody can see it, it would be proudly rolled out if it exists, which it obviously doesn't.

This will be his campaign promise, he has a great plan ready but you have to vote him in to see it...well he ran that con the last time and we haven't seen squat. It's embarrassing to think that people are ignorant enough to fall for this twice.
The right should have rolled out ideas three years... (show quote)


Remember, the GOP promised a plan superior to the ACA in 2010, 2012, 2014 and trumps "repeal and replace" in 2016, 2018 and now 2020. What do those years have in common? How many of those "soon to be unveiled" plans WERE unveiled? Yep, nary a one.

Anyone who still believes them needs to have their heads examined.

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Sep 17, 2020 09:05:27   #
Tiptop789 Loc: State of Denial
 
Peewee wrote:
Are you nuts? The plan was to expose how evil the deep state swamp truly is. That mission is almost over. I believe the only thing left to do, is to wrap and put a bow on all the treasonous behavior. That should wipe out most politicians on both sides. I'd call that a win-win.


Can you even define treason?

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Sep 17, 2020 09:40:27   #
CodyCoonhound Loc: Redbone Country
 
woodguru wrote:
The right should have rolled out ideas three years ago so that the american public can see what the great plan is. If it really is good it will be supported, if it is good it will withstand GAO and CBO scrutiny and reports on the true costs of the ideas. If it has good elements it can be modified out to where it works.

You do not end what gives 20 million people healthcare before having a viable working replacement ready to roll. Republicans roll out ill conceived trash like the tax cuts that they are jamming together in secrecy the night before rolling it out for a vote, and it is obvious to anyone following this that the administration is ending Obamacare without provisions for pre existing conditions.

This just sounds like pure stupidity the way macaninny says the president has a good plan ready but nobody can see it, it would be proudly rolled out if it exists, which it obviously doesn't.

This will be his campaign promise, he has a great plan ready but you have to vote him in to see it...well he ran that con the last time and we haven't seen squat. It's embarrassing to think that people are ignorant enough to fall for this twice.
The right should have rolled out ideas three years... (show quote)


"We have to pass it, so we can see what's in it!" How quickly a democrat forgets their own actions. So convenient.

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Sep 17, 2020 09:45:46   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
Tiptop789 wrote:
Can you even define treason?


Sure, it's betrayal. Anyone who seeks to undermine our government or subverts our Constitution is a traitor and guilty of treason. Probably why Obama chose Renegade as his Secret Service Code Name. Did you really need my help to figure it out? You are on the net and I'm guessing you have a search engine? Type the word into your search engine and press enter, unless your a serious dipstick.

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Sep 17, 2020 10:02:13   #
FallenOak Loc: St George Utah
 
EmilyD wrote:
Obamacare is a great achievement for people who can't afford medical comforts??? I guess middle and low income people just don't matter to you? Because they are the ones who cannot afford to pay premiums in the neighborhood of $6,000 per person per year and deductibles around $7,000 per person per year. And if you have children, even more. That's at least $13,000 per year! That may not seem like much to you, but when you only have an income of $30,000 or $40,000, those costs are too much....certainly not "affordable" in any sense of the word.

Americans had Obamacare stuffed down their throats. It was so long, detailed and full of add-ons that Nancy Pelosi made her famous statement "We must pass it, so we can read it". It turned out to be extremely unpopular with the American populace during and after its evaluations in Congress. Young, healthy people, who were supposed to be the main contributors to the plan, were not buying it. They didn't like the mandate that you MUST buy into it or pay a yearly fine that increased every year you did not sign up for it. Nobody likes to be told you have to do something, or you will be penalized. And young people rebelled against it. The IRS was supposed to monitor the fines, which would have been a huge mess. Business Insider stated that the AHCA was "the least popular major bill in decades", and major medical organizations, including the American Medical Association and the American Academy of Pediatrics, strongly condemned the bill.

After trying several times and being rejected by Congress, [specifically with the "Better Care Rehabilitation Act" (BCRA)], Trump enacted the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, which at least got rid of the mandate. People who could not afford the "Affordable" Care Act, just went without health care, but at least they weren't penalized for it.
Obamacare is a great achievement for people who ca... (show quote)


Priorities, Priorities, Priorities. That is the answer that many people fail to adhere to. If a new car every other year and a new truck, same, and a motorhome to be used for one month long trips is more important than health insurance why should I or anyone else be made to cover the health care of any one wasting their income like that? I certainly would like new cars, multiple adult gadgets, and long trips but I know that first I must take care of myself and my family. Again I say to you: Priorities, Priorities, Priorities.

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