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Jul 31, 2020 22:45:53   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
moldyoldy wrote:
You should feel foolish, the virus in N Y came from Europe not China. China shut down travel from the infected areas early. The next hot spots NJ and Ct. were close to NY. After that some governors followed trump and opened up creating more hot spots.


Where is the information that says China shut down early?

Are they paying you to lie for them or do you do it gratis?

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Jul 31, 2020 23:19:20   #
JoyV
 
moldyoldy wrote:
BBC News
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Coronavirus: Wuhan shuts public transport over outbreak
23 January 2020 China

What measures have been announced?

From Thursday, all flights and passenger train services out of Wuhan have been stopped.

Bus, subway and ferry services all shut down from 10:00 local time (02:00 GMT).

A special command centre in Wuhan set up to contain the virus said the move was meant to "resolutely contain the momentum of the epidemic spreading".


So China began taking measures 7 days before Trump. Yet China knew of the outbreak at least as early as early November, and had thousands of cases before they took any measures.
The WHO only documented it on December 31.
Here is a partial timeline of the SARS CoV-2 virus for the month of January.

>Jan 3, Redfield received a phone call from a friend in China about it.
>Jan 6, Trump offered to send CDC team to China. China refused. He had the HHS put together an intra-agency task force immediately after, with Azar at the head. Fauci was part of the task force.
>Jan 8, he instituted the first public alert.
>Jan 14, the WHO announced there was no evidence of human to human transmission.
>Jan 17, he instituted airport screenings.
>***Jan 18, Trump was finally given a briefing on the virus.
>Jan 20, the WHO admitted there was human to human transmission after their refusal to hear the evidence of given them by Taiwan finally was confirmed by China.
>Jan 20, first recorded case in the US.
>Jan 21, Fauci says they have it under control.
>Jan 22, Trump repeats Fauci's assertion that it is under control.
>Jan 24, Senate briefed.
>Jan 29, Trump officially announced the task force.
>Jan 29, Trump repatriates Americans from Wuhan and puts them in quarantine at March Air Reserve base.
>Jan 31, Trump declares a public emergency.
>Jan 31, he instituted a travel ban for China.

But of course the left says Trump should have acted sooner!

https://nypost.com/2020/02/11/team-trump-entirely-right-on-drastic-action-to-keep-coronavirus-out-of-us/

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Jul 31, 2020 23:28:30   #
Iliamna1
 
BigMike wrote:
Most DEATHS were in old folks homes. Were the old folks unloading ships?


No. Gov Cuomo ordered all nursing homes to accept patients recovering from Covid. 6000 nursing home deaths speak loudly about that little edict of his. The man is a mass murderer, in my humble opinion.

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Jul 31, 2020 23:50:08   #
JoyV
 
moldyoldy wrote:
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump’s “ban” on travel from China is his go-to point when defending his response to the coronavirus pandemic. The problem with his core argument starts with the fact that he did not ban travel from China. He imposed porous restrictions.

Over the past week, Trump cited his China action repeatedly and as part of a scattered indictment of Democratic presidential rival Joe Biden.

Trump thoroughly misrepresented Biden’s position on immigration and more, while an economic adviser with no public health credentials tried to discredit Dr. Anthony Fauci, the country’s top infectious disease expert, with a scientific argument.
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump’s “ban” o... (show quote)


Being the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease, does not mean he is the top expert in the field. Name one other science organization where the top person in the field is the director? The people who are on the front lines are too busy doing the work to be a director. A director is a bureaucrat.

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Jul 31, 2020 23:57:50   #
JoyV
 
Iliamna1 wrote:
No. Gov Cuomo ordered all nursing homes to accept patients recovering from Covid. 6000 nursing home deaths speak loudly about that little edict of his. The man is a mass murderer, in my humble opinion.


When he wrote that order, he had both a hospital ship in his harbor and the temporary hospital in Central Park built by the Army Corps of Engineers. Both of which were specifically provided for the pandemic and both which were nearly empty. There was NO reason to send COVID patients to nursing homes!!!!

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Aug 1, 2020 00:14:58   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Iliamna1 wrote:
No. Gov Cuomo ordered all nursing homes to accept patients recovering from Covid. 6000 nursing home deaths speak loudly about that little edict of his. The man is a mass murderer, in my humble opinion.


Seconded!

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Aug 1, 2020 00:20:04   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
JoyV wrote:
When he wrote that order, he had both a hospital ship in his harbor and the temporary hospital in Central Park built by the Army Corps of Engineers. Both of which were specifically provided for the pandemic and both which were nearly empty. There was NO reason to send COVID patients to nursing homes!!!!


I see massive class-action lawsuits, disgrace and imprisonment in his future.



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Aug 1, 2020 00:23:47   #
Iliamna1
 
JoyV wrote:
When he wrote that order, he had both a hospital ship in his harbor and the temporary hospital in Central Park built by the Army Corps of Engineers. Both of which were specifically provided for the pandemic and both which were nearly empty. There was NO reason to send COVID patients to nursing homes!!!!


I'd forgotten to mention those tiny details, There was NO REASON for all those people to die. And now the O*(! is denying it ever happened. He hopes and prays Americans and New Yorkers have short memories. We don't and they don't.

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Aug 1, 2020 00:27:25   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Iliamna1 wrote:
I'd forgotten to mention those tiny details, There was NO REASON for all those people to die. And now the O*(! is denying it ever happened. He hopes and prays Americans and New Yorkers have short memories. We don't and they don't.


His a$$ will fry for it. He's a walking dead man.

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Aug 1, 2020 00:49:39   #
federally indicted mattoid
 
Airforceone wrote:
Can I respond and call him an idiot.


I think you get kicked off, or at least your comment is deleted.

'Idiot' does not fly here.

However, pigs will fly before some of these people will see the light.

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Aug 1, 2020 00:54:16   #
federally indicted mattoid
 
eagleye13 wrote:
"They blocked all the first moves to stop it. Every one of the first cases and deaths came in through liberal sanctuary cities as if invited in by liberals to kill the Trump economy. which it did, but I bet they did not plan on how many liberals it would kill also. I think they did it on purpose. I definitely would not put it past them.
I agree.
Three things to consider;
Motive, motive and motive.


Actually, it was jarjar kuschner who led the charge to get ppe to the areas that needed it.

He decided the pandemic was 'hitting the blue states' so therefore, no worries, right!?

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Aug 1, 2020 00:55:31   #
federally indicted mattoid
 
BigMike wrote:
Trump cultist????

I voted for Rand Paul in the primary.

YOU think you're some kind of frelling psychologist!
Trump cultist???? br br I voted for Rand Paul in ... (show quote)


Rand Paul!

Why sir, you ARE brilliant!

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Aug 1, 2020 00:57:07   #
federally indicted mattoid
 
BigMike wrote:
Yep. If you get sick, stay home...like we've done for thousands of years...thousands!


Oops, I spoke too soon...

Sorry Big Mike, you're not so brilliant after all.

It spreads even if you are asymptomatic.

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Aug 1, 2020 01:57:15   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
useful mattoid 45 wrote:
I think you get kicked off, or at least your comment is deleted.

'Idiot' does not fly here.

However, pigs will fly before some of these people will see the light.


That isn't as much "light" as hellfire.

No thanks. I'm not a moth.

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Aug 1, 2020 02:07:08   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
useful mattoid 45 wrote:
Oops, I spoke too soon...

Sorry Big Mike, you're not so brilliant after all.

It spreads even if you are asymptomatic.


And you're fickle.

I've lived through too many of these and know enough about history and criminal behavior to know what I'm talking about.

You're being played. If masks did the trick why haven't they proposed it for the flu? The flu kills a lot of people every year and always has. Why?

You're being played. They want to see how many people will do something useless just because they're TOLD to.

You're being played. My aunt and uncle in Tucson both had it a few weeks before the news broke. They had no idea. Thought it was the flu and a few days later they were better. They only got tested after the news broke.

You're being played. Wuflu has been here since November of last year.

I'm not playing...but if it makes you feel better wear a mask forever or stay home.

I'm going out to live.

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