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Aug 1, 2020 02:09:55   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
useful mattoid 45 wrote:
Actually, it was jarjar kuschner who led the charge to get ppe to the areas that needed it.

He decided the p******c was 'hitting the blue states' so therefore, no worries, right!?


No worries until dumba$$es from there came here to escape Wuflu.

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Aug 1, 2020 02:29:00   #
federally indicted mattoid
 
BigMike wrote:
And you're fickle.

I've lived through too many of these and know enough about history and criminal behavior to know what I'm talking about.

You're being played. If masks did the trick why haven't they proposed it for the flu? The flu k**ls a lot of people every year and always has. Why?

You're being played. They want to see how many people will do something useless just because they're TOLD to.

You're being played. My aunt and uncle in Tucson both had it a few weeks before the news broke. They had no idea. Thought it was the flu and a few days later they were better. They only got tested after the news broke.

You're being played. Wuflu has been here since November of last year.

I'm not playing...but if it makes you feel better wear a mask forever or stay home.

I'm going out to live.
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Sorry Mike, your Darwinian denialism is getting tiresome.

You may be contributing to others' expectations of good outcomes.

Others, listen up. Masks help. Face shields too if in highly infected areas.

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Aug 1, 2020 02:43:27   #
RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia
 
[quote=JoyV]Masks were designed to trap bacteria. They do that fairly well. They also trap large visible droplets (such as the vapor you see when it is cold). They do NOT trap microdroplets, which you cannot see. But the v***s is not found only in the droplets anyway. The CDC admitted it was airborne more than a month ago. The v***s passes right through the mask and floats wherever the air currents take it. Others, with or without masks, will breath it in. If you have a mask on for more than a few minutes, the reduction in oxygen, even if only slight, will compromise your i****e s****m to some degree. Add the fact that wearing a mask for more than a few minutes means it becomes moist and bacteria, and even v***ses, will collect in the moisture means you will then breath this concentrated soup in. So not only do masks not work against v***ses (even the average size v***s let alone the SARS CoV-2 which is measured in fentometers), they can actually contribute to you getting sick with other illnesses and even the SARS CoV-2.[/quote.

I've read the science that your decisions are based on, we're not reall trained to make decisions on that basis, well I'm not able to anyway, but as someone who has just gotten over a bacterial infection to the lower respiratory tract that I got probably because the air after the Bush Fire ( 6th. January 2020) was very thick with smoke for about 3 weeks, which gave me all the symptoms of pneumonia the only symptom I didn't have which is common with C****-** was a fever, so my doctor was just about to send me to hospital because I couldn't breathe, I h**e hospital so I luckily got out of it and then after 8 or 9 weeks of trying different things, one was prednisone to suppress my i****e s****m, all did nothing, then in May I started antibiotics and which turned the tide and I started getting better, that proved it was a bacterial infection, but even so I learned first hand what it feels like to be so-unable to breathe you can't hardly stand up.

I used to listen to Ron Paul of the Liberty Report till he started with the v***s was nothing BS, I became very biased in favour of lockdowns, I'm still in voluntary lockdown but I never went out much anyway, only to the Motorcycle club but I'm still not going till I've been v******ted, fortunately I can still practice at home so I'm very fortunate and I want to keep it like that.

Now it may be as you say but the Guardian reported today that South East Asia is in jeopardy of many 100's of millions of people becoming impoverished due to c****-** and they all have compulsory wearing of facemasks even-though there is comparatively small case numbers, when the stakes are so high they all can't be wrong, were talking about starving to death.

Of course there is things wrong with wearing a mask but compare them to a lung t***splant or the known after effects of C****-** which is heart ailments that never go away.

I prefer not to risk it, the consensus is of June 26 by Center for Disease Control and Prevention and World Health Organization, that cloth face masks are best rather than specialised surgical grade masks.

There are many reasons for this policy, some are psychological and some are biological, a cloth mask doesn't inhibit breathing as much when worn for an extended period and cloth masks do reduced the number of v***ses floating about in vapour to a certain extent, there is also consensus that asymptomatic people - (prior to exhibiting symptoms ) - in conversation with others expel contaminated microscopic droplets that can be soaked up in a cloth mask, but not all apparently, still better than nothing.


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Aug 1, 2020 02:52:16   #
federally indicted mattoid
 
[quote=RT friend][quote=JoyV]Masks were designed to trap bacteria. They do that fairly well. They also trap large visible droplets (such as the vapor you see when it is cold). They do NOT trap microdroplets, which you cannot see. But the v***s is not found only in the droplets anyway. The CDC admitted it was airborne more than a month ago. The v***s passes right through the mask and floats wherever the air currents take it. Others, with or without masks, will breath it in. If you have a mask on for more than a few minutes, the reduction in oxygen, even if only slight, will compromise your i****e s****m to some degree. Add the fact that wearing a mask for more than a few minutes means it becomes moist and bacteria, and even v***ses, will collect in the moisture means you will then breath this concentrated soup in. So not only do masks not work against v***ses (even the average size v***s let alone the SARS CoV-2 which is measured in fentometers), they can actually contribute to you getting sick with other illnesses and even the SARS CoV-2.[/quote.

I've read the science that your decisions are based on, we're not reall trained to make decisions on that basis, well I'm not able to anyway, but as someone who has just gotten over a bacterial infection to the lower respiratory tract that I got probably because the air after the Bush Fire ( 6th. January 2020) was very thick with smoke for about 3 weeks, which gave me all the symptoms of pneumonia the only symptom I didn't have which is common with C****-** was a fever, so my doctor was just about to send me to hospital because I couldn't breathe, I h**e hospital so I luckily got out of it and then after 8 or 9 weeks of trying different things, one was prednisone to suppress my i****e s****m, all did nothing, then in May I started antibiotics and that turned the tide and I started getting better, that proved it was a bacterial infection, but even so I learned first hand what it feels like to be so unable to breathe you can't hardly stand up.

I used to listen to Ron Paul of the Liberty Report till he started with the v**e nothing BS, I became very biased in favour of lockdown, I'm still in voluntary lockdown but I never went out much only to the Motorcycle club but I'm not going till I've been v******ted, fortunately I can still practice at home so I'm very fortunate and I want to keep it like that.

Now it may be as you say but the Guardian reported today that South East Asia is in jeopardy of many 100's of millions becoming impoverished due to c****-** and the all have compulsory wearing of facemasks when there is a comparatively small outbreak when the stakes are so high they all can't be wrong, were talking about starving to death, there is things wrong wit wearing a mask but compare that to lung t***splant or the known after effects of c****-** heart ailments that never go away.

I prefer not to risk it, the consensus is of June 26 by Center for Disease Control and Prevention and World Heakth Organization, that cloth face masks are best rather than specialised surgical grade masks.

There are many reasons for this some are psychological and some are biological, a cloth mask doesn't inhibit breathing as much when worn for an extended period and does reduced the v***s floating about in vapour to a certain extent, there is also consensus that asymptomatic people, (prior to exhibiting symptoms ) in conversation with others expel contaminated microscopic droplets that can be soaked up in a cloth mask, but not all apparently, still better than nothing.

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Couldn't disagree less.

We need vigilance until a v*****e is available. Mark time, help your neighbors, be healthy, love your family.

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Aug 1, 2020 08:01:55   #
Capt-jack Loc: Home
 
Airforceone wrote:
As I read through all this information today on c****av***s and then Trump with his inconceivable cures all debunked by our countries medical professionals, FDA, CDC all these people denigrated by the Trump supporters. So where does Trump get his information or any evidence with the stupid statements he makes.

Donald Trump has robbed this country of so much because of his total failure on the C****av***s. So Donald Trump and the republicans in congress who enables him. Have spent the last 6 months of lying and passing the buck as hundreds of thousands have suffered and needlessly died. And what did Donald Trump have to say to the AMERICAN people (THATS THE WAY IT IS) but it did not need to be this bad.


But this one statement made by one Republican that has major concerns over the direction of his conservative values. I am not even going to mention his name. He has concerns over how the right wing base is acting and has strong concerns of the death of his beloved GOP. And of course the destruction of the rule of law.
As I read through all this information today on c*... (show quote)


The only thing that can be said about you is YOUR STUPID, IGNORANT, AND H**E AMERICA.

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Aug 1, 2020 09:26:53   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
JoyV wrote:
When he wrote that order, he had both a hospital ship in his harbor and the temporary hospital in Central Park built by the Army Corps of Engineers. Both of which were specifically provided for the p******c and both which were nearly empty. There was NO reason to send C***D patients to nursing homes!!!!


Absolutely true! The mayor of New York refused to let c***d19 victims be treated at the field hospital because it was a Christian organization, and he claimed they would discriminate. What lunacy. He, too, is complacent in the nursing home deaths.

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Aug 1, 2020 09:31:40   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
Iliamna1 wrote:
No. Gov Cuomo ordered all nursing homes to accept patients recovering from C***d. 6000 nursing home deaths speak loudly about that little edict of his. The man is a mass murderer, in my humble opinion.


While all the time the hospital ship was setting in the harbor and only had a few patients on board !

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Aug 1, 2020 10:00:15   #
Iliamna1
 
Both DiBlasio and Cuomo need to be tried and hung, IMHO, for those atrocities.

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Aug 1, 2020 10:28:35   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
useful mattoid 45 wrote:
Sorry Mike, your Darwinian denialism is getting tiresome.

You may be contributing to others' expectations of good outcomes.

Others, listen up. Masks help. Face shields too if in highly infected areas.


LOL!
Can you believe it?
I see people riding around in their cars with face masks on!
Oxygen starved types. LOLOL

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Aug 1, 2020 11:21:16   #
Iliamna1
 
RandyBrian wrote:
Absolutely true! The mayor of New York refused to let c***d19 victims be treated at the field hospital because it was a Christian organization, and he claimed they would discriminate. What lunacy. He, too, is complacent in the nursing home deaths.


Those beds, doctors and nurses are from Samaritan's purse. Wherever Samaritan's Purse is functioning, they are only there to serve and do not expect tp be repaid. In other words, those patients, had they gone there, would never have been billed for the care. Same thing at the Mercy ship, waiting in the New York harbor. How lousy stupid can these public 'servants' be? I think it had more to do with the expected loss of funding from Washington that (mis)guided their decisions.

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Aug 1, 2020 12:12:48   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
Iliamna1 wrote:
Those beds, doctors and nurses are from Samaritan's purse. Wherever Samaritan's Purse is functioning, they are only there to serve and do not expect tp be repaid. In other words, those patients, had they gone there, would never have been billed for the care. Same thing at the Mercy ship, waiting in the New York harbor. How lousy stupid can these public 'servants' be? I think it had more to do with the expected loss of funding from Washington that (mis)guided their decisions.


I had not thought of that! Excellent point. Everything I read was centered on De Blasio's worry that the Samaritan's Purse doctors would discriminate against patients that were gay or t*********r. So instead they were sent to death camps.
Folks, if you have extra cash not doing anything worthwhile. Samaritan's Purse is a wonderful and highly efficient place to donate. Of course, always do your own research before donating to ANY charity.

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Aug 1, 2020 12:29:21   #
moldyoldy
 
4430 wrote:
While all the time the hospital ship was setting in the harbor and only had a few patients on board !


In the beginning the hospital ship was supposed to be for non c***d cases.

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Aug 1, 2020 12:48:30   #
moldyoldy
 
Iliamna1 wrote:
Those beds, doctors and nurses are from Samaritan's purse. Wherever Samaritan's Purse is functioning, they are only there to serve and do not expect tp be repaid. In other words, those patients, had they gone there, would never have been billed for the care. Same thing at the Mercy ship, waiting in the New York harbor. How lousy stupid can these public 'servants' be? I think it had more to do with the expected loss of funding from Washington that (mis)guided their decisions.


The actual controversy.

The L***Q coalition is the latest in a series of barbs aimed at Samaritan’s Purse since it opened a 68-bed field hospital in Central Park two weeks ago. The conflict pits the country’s growing acceptance of L***Q rights with the conservative values of a premier evangelical relief organization.

The hospital is staffed with Christian doctors and nurses experienced in treating infectious diseases. But Samaritan Purse's policies require most contractors and some full-time volunteers to sign a statement of faith that includes a declaration that “we believe that marriage is exclusively the union of one genetic male and one genetic female.”

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Aug 1, 2020 13:01:15   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
moldyoldy wrote:
The actual controversy.

The L***Q coalition is the latest in a series of barbs aimed at Samaritan’s Purse since it opened a 68-bed field hospital in Central Park two weeks ago. The conflict pits the country’s growing acceptance of L***Q rights with the conservative values of a premier evangelical relief organization.

The hospital is staffed with Christian doctors and nurses experienced in treating infectious diseases. But Samaritan Purse's policies require most contractors and some full-time volunteers to sign a statement of faith that includes a declaration that “we believe that marriage is exclusively the union of one genetic male and one genetic female.”
The actual controversy. br br The L***Q coalition... (show quote)


" But Samaritan Purse's policies require most contractors and some full-time volunteers to sign a statement of faith that includes a declaration that “we believe that marriage is exclusively the union of one genetic male and one genetic female.”" - moldy

Well good for them!!!

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Aug 1, 2020 13:20:01   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
moldyoldy wrote:
In the beginning the hospital ship was supposed to be for non c***d cases.


Lets see some proof !

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