Blade_Runner wrote:
What’s the difference between a conservative and a progressive?
No. 1: Conservatives and progressives have different views about individuals and communities.
Conservatives ask: “What can I do for myself, my family, my community, and my fellow citizens?”
Progressives ask: “What is unfair?” “What am I owed?” “What has offended me today?” “What must my country do for me?”
The traditional American ethic of achievement gives way to the progressive ethic of aggrievement.
As opposed to a variety of individuals making up one American community, progressives seek to place individuals in a variety of competing communities. The first creates unity. The second, identity politics.
No 2.: Conservatives and progressives have different views about diversity and choice.
For progressives, different ethnicities and gender identities are welcomed but a variety of opinions and ideas are not.
Just look at two areas of public life dominated by the left. On college campuses free speech is under attack. If you’re a conservative working at a social media company or using one of their platforms to share your views, you may find your job eliminated or your account deleted.
And when it comes to choice, progressives love the word, but they don’t want it to apply to our decisions on education, health care, and even how and where we live out our religious faith.
Conservatives take a different approach.
Parents, not the zip code they live in, should choose the school that is best for their child.
We all need health care, but we don’t all need the same kind or same amount. And while people should be free to live as they choose, no one should be forced to endorse or celebrate those choices if it violates their religious beliefs.
Conservatives say people should have choices. Progressives say one political solution fits all.
No. 3: Conservatives and progressives have a different view of “We the People.”
Whether it’s the Second Amendment, immigration, or putting limits on abortion, if we the people don’t pass laws progressives approve, they turn to judges, executive orders, and government bureaucrats behind closed doors to overturn the will of voters.
Whatever one may think about the wisdom of hiking the minimum wage, banning plastic straws, or removing controversial historical monuments, conservatives believe voters closest to the issues should be the ones making such decisions for their communities—not lawmakers in Washington or a panel of judges fives states away.
To sum it up, conservatives believe in individual rights, not special rights. Conservatives believe in allowing Texas to be Texas and Vermont to be Vermont. And conservatives believe we the people can vote with our feet about where we want to live and what laws we want to live under.
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Blade. You don't seem to grasp the concept of ideology. I'm trying to explain why we do something and you are sitting trying to tell us we are different because one shit's red and the other shit's blue. The color of our shit is irrelevant...Liberals are progressive and Conservatives are regressive. THAT is why we are different in ALL of our views.
Liberals will NEVER adhere to a single status quo. Conservatives ALWAYS seek out the status quo...either current or past and doggedly try to stick to it. "Make American Great Again." Here you are seeking out a past status quo. "Keep America Great." Here you are trying to maintain a current status quo--one that can only exist if you are in control. (That's a topic beyond this discussion)
To a liberal progressive America's greatness is achieved when we live up to the promises of our founding documents. The Civil War, as horrid as it was, helped us to live up to our promise of equality. Child labor laws, as well as unions and all labor laws, anti-monopoly laws--ALL added another plank to America's greatness.
Add to that; the vote for women, the end to Jim Crow, the Civil Rights movement of the 50's and 60's, and the women movement. Top it off with SS and medicare and all are progressive movements--movements that you conservatives largely fought tooth and nail. Why? Because as you always do, you were trying to maintain the status quo. Why? Because due to your ideology you are politically regressive and even something as small as a plastic straw will cause you to extend your claws and cause you to dig in as tightly as you possibly can to resist any kind of movement to change.
To liberals, we are always going to move forward and seldom is it going to be neat and tidy but generally messy and unseemly. FDR was famous for saying (to paraphrase) he was willing to try a dozen things if only one might work. And he did, with many failures, but the success kept this nation together during one of its most trying times. THAT'S liberalism. It's a messy process but look at the accomplishments! This nation was BORN of liberalism and ironically, even today, economically you conservatives adhere to Classical Liberalism...again, a past status quo.
I don't care about the color of our shit Blade. If you could turn back time to 1776 that's where conservatives would stay. Status quo is where conservatives gain their security. Well, piss on the status quo; for us liberals, there were promises made and promises to keep. We are moving forward--we always have and always will--whether you conservatives like it or not!
The link below is the best book on Political Ideology that I've run across. Amazon has it dirt cheap but the link is to a PDF if that is how you roll. Blade you will never understand Liberals or Conservatives until you understand the WHY behind what we believe. You don't, so excuse me if I don't comment on the subjective trivialities of what you wrote.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/318837732_Political_ideologies_Their_Origins_and_Impact_Twelfth_edition