Rose42 wrote:
No one hates you for promoting false beliefs or your deception Tommy. We do hope you open your eyes to the truth.
The opposite of love is merely apathy. What exposes your hate is your actions. You actively lie and bear false witness against me. And when pointed out, rather than attempt to prove your accusations, you either don't reply, or just keep repeating the same lies and false accusations.
Yeah, I'd definitely define your actions of constant, unsubstantiated, false accusations and slander against me as active hatred.
Rose42 wrote:
A good assessment. Hopefully he will realize who his war is with. But he has to realize too that he hasn't stopped sinning - no one can do that in their mortal bodies.
https://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/t-166568-4.html#3011446I wish you had enough integrity to quote where I said what you claim I believe. Because, in truth, you don't actually listen to what I actually say I believe anymore than you listen to what the Bible actually says. And that makes you a false witness and a liar.
What kind of relationship do you have with Jesus?
Jesus said, "If you love me, keep my commands." John 14:15
Do you Love Him? That is a relationship- keeping his commandments is a relationship of love. Why don't you keep his commandments?
Do you want to be friends with Jesus Christ? It is written again- “Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you.” -John 15:14
Do you want to know Him? “we… know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.” -1 John 2:3
Do you want a Father and Son relationship with God? “…be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty. Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.” -2 Corinthians 6:17-7:1
Separation from the world, the scripture teaches, is part of God's Father/son relationship with us!
“Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.” -1 John 2:15-17
Would you like to have an Elder/Firstborn brother in Jesus Christ? Here's what Jesus says about that- “…My mother and my brethren are these which hear the word of God, and do it.” -Luke 8:21
Now let's look at it this way- What about a relationship with Jesus Christ without obedience?
Do you want to know Him but not keep His commandments? Apostle John wrote- “He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.” -1 John 2:4-5
Do you want to claim Jesus as Lord, but not "have to" do the will of the Father? Jesus said- “Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father... Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied.. cast out devils.. and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock…” -Matthew 7:21.
So keeping Jesus’ commandments are paramount for having a relationship with Jesus. What are his commandments? It is most telling that Jesus reiterated the first commandment in Greek words and grammar.
"The Lord our God (masculine, singular, accusative) is one (masculine, singular, accusative)" Mark 12:29
One: Greek "heîs, hice; a primary numeral; one" -Strong's
And it is in this manner that both Jesus and the Jews understood the first commandment.
"We know what we worship for salvation is of the Jews... God (singular) is spirit (singular), and those who worship him (singular) must worship in spirit and truth." John 4:22,24
According to Jesus, and that by commandment, God is one, singular, "Him."
Ironically, Trinitarians understand that the NT explains the OT. But they reject that principal when it comes to the first commandment. The OT Hebrew word for god, “elohim”, is a plural word, like our “sheep” for example. If we say "we have one sheep" and "sheep is one", we have emphatically excluded the possibility that we are talking about "multiple persons in one sheep." And that is how illogical and contrived the idiotic theory of the trinity is. God's word utterly clarifies the ambiguity in the plurality of the word just like we would do with an English plural word like sheep. Plus, it is not true of the Greek word for God, "Theos", that Jesus himself used to translate Deuteronomy 6:4, which is emphatically singular, both in meaning and in grammatical number. The Greek is very specific. If Jesus meant to use the word theos in a way that meant or implied multiple persons he could easily have done so, but he didn't. Thus Jesus himself emphasized the personal singularity of God by enshrining it in a commandment just like the OT did.
Singular: “Singular Number in substantives and verbs
refers to only one Person or Thing, e.g. “I”, “you” (one person), he, she, it.” -Wheeler’s Greek Syntax.
Deny it all you want, negate his choice of words all you want, bear false witness against him all you want, but the fact stands that Jesus himself translated the first and most important commandment with words that emphatically excluded the idea of a Trinity of persons in the godhead, and Trinitarians simply don't believe him and won't obey him, and when given the opportunity, like you have been given in these discussions you fight tooth and nail against the first commandment as it is stated by Jesus God's own son!
And thereby you expose that your whole claim to having a relationship with Jesus is a lie according to the apostle John:
"He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him." 1 John 2:4