PeterS wrote:
Where was any comment made about Corporate tax cuts?
That seems to be what lefties refer to when they say "tax cuts for the rich."
Otherwise, the cuts on individual income tax were at a lower percentage for higher earners, and the $10k cap on deducting local taxes from federal "hurt" "the rich" even more -- yet every time a leftie refers to the tax cuts, it's always "for the rich."
Essentially, pure B.S.
Living beyond their means. Wife has to work or he has to get another part time job to keep with th Joneses.
Seth wrote:
That seems to be what lefties refer to when they say "tax cuts for the rich."
Otherwise, the cuts on individual income tax were at a lower percentage for higher earners, and the $10k cap on deducting local taxes from federal "hurt" "the rich" even more -- yet every time a leftie refers to the tax cuts, it's always "for the rich."
Essentially, pure B.S.
And trumps fixing nothing ...
emarine wrote:
And trumps fixing nothing ...
Yeah, right. Ignore the low unemployment rate, the high GDP, the averaging up of the stock markets, etc.
No matter what the reality is, you Trump haters will ignore it, present graphs and charts that belie what most Americans see with our own eyes... Total denial, as if out of 100 things he does this president can't get one single thing right.
If you folks even gave him credit for one single thing, you'd be 1000 times more credible. The fact that you don't does nothing but reveal a complete lack of honesty on your part -- if you can't acknowledge a single thing someone gets right in 2 1/2 years, no one with the proverbial lick of sense can believe any single thing you say about him, because your bias is too glaringly obvious.
Seth wrote:
Yeah, right. Ignore the low unemployment rate, the high GDP, the averaging up of the stock markets, etc.
No matter what the reality is, you Trump haters will ignore it, present graphs and charts that belie what most Americans see with our own eyes... Total denial, as if out of 100 things he does this president can't get one single thing right.
If you folks even gave him credit for one single thing, you'd be 1000 times more credible. The fact that you don't does nothing but reveal a complete lack of honesty on your part -- if you can't acknowledge a single thing someone gets right in 2 1/2 years, no one with the proverbial lick of sense can believe any single thing you say about him, because your bias is too glaringly obvious.
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Seth buddy … the only things I severely dislike is laziness & stupidly... I don't hate too much at all... I'm just not that emotional … when our national debt surpasses our GDP it's pretty much game over... we are at 105% now % rising... last time we sucked this badly was 1946 during the world war... world wars are mostly economic driven & someone is shaking the tree... MAGA my ass buddy... wrap your head around this...
http://www.cbo.gov/system/files/2019-05/55151-budget_update_0.pdf …
Because we want more things, instead of a Toyota a Mercedes, instead of a little house in the city a big beautiful house in the suburbs. That’s why I did it. You have a problem with that? I don’t care.
emarine wrote:
Seth buddy … the only things I severely dislike is laziness & stupidly... I don't hate too much at all... I'm just not that emotional … when our national debt surpasses our GDP it's pretty much game over... we are at 105% now % rising... last time we sucked this badly was 1946 during the world war... world wars are mostly economic driven & someone is shaking the tree... MAGA my ass buddy... wrap your head around this...
http://www.cbo.gov/system/files/2019-05/55151-budget_update_0.pdf …
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It's impressive the way that no matter how we the economy is doing, folks on the "anti" administration side can always produce graphs, charts and polls that go contrary to what I know first hand from friends who own small and medium sized businesses, corporate clients and friends who make a living on Wall Street
But like I said -- when anybody manages to find fault with every last thing, no matter what, no matter how trivial or how important, a president does and can't seem to find even one thing out of 100 that he's said or done "right," the odds are totally impossible that that person can be considered credible where a single thing they criticize is concerned because their bias supercedes any chance of their being capable of rationality or objectivity when discussing said president.
While the tone is negative, the numbers used indicate the economy is doing very good.
As for the fact that less jobs than expected were added, winds up not being such a disaster when you look at the numbers. The EXPECTATION was to add 158,000. But instead it was 130,000. That is still a large amount of new jobs.
Now look at what they said regarding the minimum wage. After lamenting it hasn't risen to $15/hr, they say the argument against the increase is that it costs less to live in certain areas of the country. That is NOT the reason most of those against the minimum wage being increased to $15/hr have given. The reason is the loss of jobs if it is raised that much. There will be layoffs, reduced hours, small business closures, and an increase in outsourcing. Isn't it better to be paid the current, or moderate increase in hourly wage than to lose your job?
Now as to part time job records, when the argument was made that many of the jobs "created" by Obama were part time jobs, the response was "prove it because such records aren't kept ". So if the records on part time vs full time jobs have only been recorded recently; how can you say they are higher or lower? For example suppose you decide to begin keeping a record for a particular trend. At the end of the first year, the numbers would be both the record highest and record lowest ever. Also, where did these figures come from? What government agency is recording this info? Or is it made by someone making an educated guess? The chart has no government agency label on it.
Remember, one of the things our government IS recording is wages. We have a nationwide increase in wages after adjusting for cost of living. If more people were working 2 part time jobs, their wages would not be going up. Part time jobs invariably pay lower wages than the same job as full time. And part time jobs rarely come with benefits. So the evidence is against more people working multiple part time jobs than ever before.
emarine wrote:
Seth buddy … the only things I severely dislike is laziness & stupidly... I don't hate too much at all... I'm just not that emotional … when our national debt surpasses our GDP it's pretty much game over... we are at 105% now % rising... last time we sucked this badly was 1946 during the world war... world wars are mostly economic driven & someone is shaking the tree... MAGA my ass buddy... wrap your head around this...
http://www.cbo.gov/system/files/2019-05/55151-budget_update_0.pdf …
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Of the current crop of candidates who do you think is best suited to run this country?
Looks like I'll be writing one in again...
Seth wrote:
It's impressive the way that no matter how we the economy is doing, folks on the "anti" administration side can always produce graphs, charts and polls that go contrary to what I know first hand from friends who own small and medium sized businesses, corporate clients and friends who make a living on Wall Street
But like I said -- when anybody manages to find fault with every last thing, no matter what, no matter how trivial or how important, a president does and can't seem to find even one thing out of 100 that he's said or done "right," the odds are totally impossible that that person can be considered credible where a single thing they criticize is concerned because their bias supercedes any chance of their being capable of rationality or objectivity when discussing said president.
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Sounds exactly what you connies did and still do with President Obama, despite the fact your bush put the country into recession, and Obama rescued the country, you connies are still telling lies and making up yor crap.
trump is getting exactly what he deserves, and there will more to come
jimpack123 wrote:
That is how it is under the GOP umbrella of TRICKLE DOWN ECONOMY. The Top 1 percent gets massive tax breaks, While the average Joe works for 10 Bucks an hour at the most. If your lucky You can find a job for bout 20 bucks and get taxed so much that you take home ten bucks a hr.
We need a third party before it gets like Europe here in the USA
So an across the board tax cut means you are taxed MORE???? Even if it were true that the rich got a bigger tax rate cut (which if you take the time to look at the tax cut you would see was the opposite), it would mean you would pay less taxes but the rich would pay an even lower rate. But the Trump tax cut actually gave a bigger tax rate cut to the lowest tax bracket which pays taxes. It gave the least tax rate cut to the highest tax bracket. Before buying into any news of extremes pro or con left or right; it is a good idea to check out the facts yourself and not blindly accept the news or what a coworker or friend has told you.
And by the way. Trickle down was the Reagan tax plan. It was to give a tax cut to the wealthy. while no tax cut to the middle class with the theory that the benefit would wind up helping the rest of Americans. This is the opposite of the tax cuts under the Trump plan.
factnotfiction wrote:
And the source is FOX, so do your bitching to them for writing the truth about your idiot leader
While Fox is right of the other big news outlets, they have been moving more and more to the left after their change in management due to the merger about 2 or 3 years ago. Especially in the past year, there are more and more stories which swing left. They are now only a conservative news outlet if you compare them to the far left news outlets. But they still have a fair number of conservative talking heads. But only the biggest can have the control over what they say to keep to the right.
Seth wrote:
It's impressive the way that no matter how we the economy is doing, folks on the "anti" administration side can always produce graphs, charts and polls that go contrary to what I know first hand from friends who own small and medium sized businesses, corporate clients and friends who make a living on Wall Street
But like I said -- when anybody manages to find fault with every last thing, no matter what, no matter how trivial or how important, a president does and can't seem to find even one thing out of 100 that he's said or done "right," the odds are totally impossible that that person can be considered credible where a single thing they criticize is concerned because their bias supercedes any chance of their being capable of rationality or objectivity when discussing said president.
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Since when is the CBO "anti" administration … Some interesting facts in that link... wall St. & fast market gains only favor 10 to 20% of Americans leaving 80% behind … In my opinion that's not a stable economy by any measure... especially with tax cuts favoring wealth... consider the fact that a large part of a 3/4 trillion Military budget goes to contractors like me in the form of corporate socialism, I should love trump... why just his deregulation alone saved me big money... but what's it all worth in a country that's coming apart at the seams inciting civil unrest & war... we require smarter people than trumps proven to be to move forward & compete …
factnotfiction wrote:
Sounds exactly what you connies did and still do with President Obama, despite the fact your bush put the country into recession, and Obama rescued the country, you connies are still telling lies and making up yor crap.
trump is getting exactly what he deserves, and there will more to come
Right on, we just keep winning winning winning!
Lonewolf wrote:
Giving tax brakes to the rich is giveing other people's money away its the one of hard working Americans you keep stealing and giving to the rich!
Roosvelt said any company who needed to pay less than a living wage had no place in America!
So where will the jobs come from once you punish the rich for being rich till there's no rich no more (except for the political elites)? And where will the revenue come from to pay for all the things you think everyone deserves just for being born, when there are no rich or jobs?
The employers are not the enemy of the employees. Each needs the other. Look up the word symbiosis.
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