They have to force all this B.S. on us, because they know that if most Americans have our say, "Sorry, lefty, it just ain't happenin'."

That's why they have stealth agendas and why they lie, i.e. "You can keep your health insurance." They figure that once they've sprung something on us and gotten us sufficiently mired in it, it'll be too late to get out of it.

Look at how tough it is to get anything done on getting rid of/replacing Obamacare, or to unravel the situation the Dems engineered on the border, as examples.

Now imagine what it would take just to try to recover from the kind of socialist system they're trying to trap us in.

I know, it scares the crap out of me. I'm in Illinois, and we have a new dem governor and a dem supermajority in the legislature. In just 5 months, they've legalized recreational marijuana, and been first in the nation ( you know how the dems like their firsts ) to allow it to be sold retail. So you can get your pot at quicky mart. They've legalized late term abortion They've doubled the gas tax and raised the plates 50%. Theyve expanded gambling in the state, and not only tripled the licenses available for little mini casinos in restaurants and bars, but have driven licenses for I think 5 more big casinos. They're going to raise property taxes for 2020. All in 5 months. Can you just imagine what these loons would do at the federal level if given free rein???????

What exactly is legal about paying criminal cartels to smuggle you across the border. And who is providing the thousands of dollars each illegal MUST pay the cartels to sneak in. Oh and 90% of those who are coached to claim asylum, when they see an immigration judge their claims are rejected, because they NEVER were going to meet the criteria, and those are the ones who bother to show up for their hearing. The vast majority of the 5,000 people A DAY pouring across our border are liars and cheats, who never intend to show up for legal status. These are EXACTLY illegal aliens, and those (besides the cartels they are in league with,) that facilitate their illegal entry into this country are treasonous, vile, soulless individuals trying to destroy America, on the backs of poor people and trafficked children, (the modern term for slavery,) to advance their sick, power hungry agenda. And those who support this travesty , must enjoy being in league with these cartels as well, because they encourage more and more of it to happen. Hypocritically whining about the "children" while these poor children are rented out to scam the system. Disgusting

Mr, Radd...


do you and the cult followers know what morality is??

You seem to lock it in a closet along with Patriotism...

It sounds so good when you echo it, but you have no useful idea of what it means..

You think it is very important who is bringing the kids to the US, and it is not the parents,so no consideration of the health and safety of those children is needed.

I will give you a hint, we do not give a rat butt who brings the kids to our nation, we do care very much about how those kids are treated when they are in our country..

what I see is that the treatment fits the usual republican ideas. treat them as a business, give them the private contractors, rate of $700 plus per day and no access by the press or public. If on a few die then the job is good.

what would Jesus do???

You think you have the moral high ground, always claim that.. you do not even know what is going on, or you are as without morals as the devil himself..

To care for children is fundamental to every religion I can think of, but you do not care a whit..

damn the kids, keep the nation white..

I am as white as can be and not be albino... and I say, care for those kids darn it.

change the law and security later, but tend to those kids..

the orange festering slug started this surge of the problem, now da** take care of what you orange criminal started.. get something done.. do it now..

Yeah, let’s talk about leftist morality verses conservative morality.

Rule of law to leftists means giving illegal aliens sanctuary cities and guaranteed healthcare, including the same for rapists, drug dealers and violent gang members, while our inner cities, run by leftists and their policies, live in squalor like 3rd world countries, whose cities have maps where the worst piles of human waste are accumulating on the streets, and young students, who should be graduating with high scholastic marks, can’t read and write let alone understand the principles of freedom, liberty and social and personal responsibilitey. And you leftists only care about belittling and denigrating and “resisting” our President Trump’s attempts at diplomacy with our enemies which trumps your disregard for US citizens every day of the week. It’s called giving them “face.” If all Trump did was to go around claiming Putin were utter evil, what could possibly be the ice breaker at a negotiation table?

You leftist folks can’t even understand there are only two biological sexes, which are determined by chromosomes not by choice. And so, in full rejection of what has been the basic building blocks of society throughout the history of mankind, you would rather allow perverts the “liberty” and “right” to go into bathrooms not allocated to their biological sex and now our children are at risk of being molested in what should be safe places to relieve themselves. And now you’re even glorifying biological men in sports competitions with biological women, whom said men are being given awards for “beating” women, and you call that “progress”?

Our founders, who every one of them had high moral standards, did their level best to assure us all the “right to freedom of speech” and what have you leftist nut jobs done with it? You’ve decided it best to stretch it to the point where people who still accept the scientific fact that it takes one man and one woman to procreate our species should be disdained as “bigots” and so you are hellbent on criminalizing our “freedom of speech” to call a man, woman, boy or girl by their biologically determined pronouns. Yeah, you leftists are so lovingly tolerant that nothing less than denying us our free speech will suffice for you in your battle to normalize perversion and criminalize the open expression of the by-far-superiority of biological normalcy.

You leftist nut jobs insist on transforming the USA, a veritable bastion of liberty and freedom, into an ever more and more socialist country by putting more and more government programs and unelected politicians and government employees in charge of an ever expanding government knowing full well big government has always been antithetical to our Constitutional Republic, let alone that socialist and communistic ideologies have proven to be the most murderous ideologies know to mankind. And this is why you must vilify our President at every opportunity. Trump’s willingness to not destroy 150 people in reaction to a strike against an unmanned drone, regardless of his other human character flaws, far outweighs your pathetic sense of justice or morals.

You make champions of people like the Clintons who ran an international pay-for-play operation while selling out our government in the process to the highest bidder. And you want to preach to us about morals? Trump’s accumulation of wealth, although questionable it maybe, still far outweighs the morals of the leaders you champion. So instead of pointing fingers at each other’s politicians, why aren’t we as a people agreeing to hold all our politicians to at least the same moral standards as they hold the rest of us to? Leftists have their extremists in Bernie Sanders and more socialism and big government, conservatives, in the other hand, create things like the tea party which was designed to hold our politicians responsible to our convictions. So the leftist answer is more mob rule while the conservative answer is less governmental imposition and more oversight and accountability of our government.

You have transferred “freedom of religion” of the right of people to practice their religion into your manufactured illogical “freedom from religion”, and you can’t even see that you have become the oppressors of freedom of religion you claim to be against.

The same goes for freedom of speech, where your colleges and universities, rather than being bastions of free thinking and open discussion of opposing points of view now protest and reject the free discussion of conservative positions as evil and bigoted and you can’t even see how bigoted that is to hold your “convictions”.

The same goes for the right to bear arms, wherein the constitution of the USA recognizes the God-given right of people to keep and bare arms, both for self protection and protection against tyrannical governments, but your politicians seek every opportunity to infringe if not outright remove that fundamental right of a free people. And you are surprised that your “morals,” I should say total lack of anything resembling a moral compass, are scary indeed to us conservatives who love our freedoms and liberties and <gasp> our families consisting of one man and one woman.

And last but not least your party, no, your ideological leftism, is guilty of murdering more living human beings than can accurately be counted through abortion and you only show your willingness to grow worse and worse in justifying the snuffing out of human life up to the moment of birth if not even after that. And you can’t understand or fathom our outrage? Yeah, that is a serious difference in morals.

When you can show you have even the most basic of understanding of these fundamental yet simple concepts of social morals, then, perhaps we could find some common ground.

Until then, I’m more than willing to contend for the morals held by conservatives. We are obviously in a war over morals, and with every ignorant post you leftists post, and every “regressive” step you take to eradicate true morals, you only make my resolve stronger to speak out against the moral outrage that is leftism now going under the false banner, or we could say false flag, of “progressivism”. If you can’t even be honest with yourself about your identity, how could anyone ever expect you to be honest about your goals and agenda?

And we know this is the real reason you leftists are waging an all out war against our duly elected President.
So be it, if it takes a “monster” like Trump to wake people up to your excesses: I will continue to support him, not as my pastor, or other “spiritual” mentor or model, but for the simple purpose of making sure folks with such twisted morals as those in your leftist camp can be silenced and defeated at every attempt of influencing this world with their amoral corruption.

California and Oregon have declared themselves Sanctuary States. Just how does that fit in with your "border security " pipe dream? Democrats have declared that illegal aliens should receive free health care that US citizens and legal foreigners somehow don't seem to qualify for. A pregnant foreigner can come into this country shortly before giving birth, have her brat on US soil and has an instant anchor baby, and as such is eligible for all sorts of benefits, once more, that most US citizens cannot receive.
More than 100,000 border jumpers sneak into this country every month or so. Democrats refuse to fund Border Security and when it does get funded, Obama appointed judges in Mexifornia block the funds.
Tell me more about Liberal border security.

Oh, still resorting to that fake news?

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-07-01/fact-check-did-obama-detain-90000-children-border

Fact Check: Did Obama Detain 90,000 Children At The Border?

Remember this?: “Caged Migrant Children Photo Goes Viral As Left Rages At Trump...Except It Happened Under Obama”

“That claim then morphed into outrage over the Trump administration separating 20% of minors who enter the country from their parents - around 2,000 kids, while ignoring the fact that the Obama administration was also separating children from their parents, while widespread abuse of detained migrants under previous administrations was reported by the ACLU and the University of Arizona.

“ One woman interviewed was detained for nearly a month in CADC while she was six months pregnant. She was shackled during transport to and from the facility. At the facility, she was denied monitoring or treatment for an ovarian cyst that posed a risk to herself and the fetus, and received no response to her requests for prenatal vitamins or extra padding for her bed.68 (Her case is described more fully in the box below.) Another woman interviewed was separated from her breastfeeding baby daughter, who was less than two months old, while she was detained in Eloy for two weeks. -University of Arizona”

and

“ Among those findings are that women did not receive adequate medical or mental health care,were often mixed together with women serving criminal sentences, and were often transferred from faraway states. In most cases, researchers found that women were separated from at least one child. -ACLUAZ.org

“Also overlooked is the fact that 80% of children entering the United States are separated from their parents when they're shoved across the border with a human trafficker, and that migrants can seek asylum in the United States through one of the several U.S. consulates in Mexico.”

“The previously silent left became suddenly outraged after President Trump's "zero tolerance" policy of enforcing existing immigration law resulted in approximately 2,000 minors being separated from their parents. To end this, Trump signed Executive Order #13841 on June 25, ordering that detained families not be separated unless the parents pose a danger to the child, while the Trump administration pledged to reunite separated families.

The "Fact Check"

“Two days after Parscale's tweet, AP published the article "NOT REAL NEWS: Obama didn’t separate 90,000 migrant families," conflating the "separated families" narrative with the "children in cages" narrative - while pointing to a "conservative website" (which they don't link to) as the source of the claim.

“ "The claim, published on a conservative website, was repeated on social media throughout the week as President Donald Trump faced criticism over his administration’s “zero tolerance” immigration policy" -AP

“What website? Who said that? Parscale said detained, not separated.

“ The false claim appears to stem from a January 2016 Senate subcommittee report that investigated how the Department of Health and Human Services, under the Obama administration, placed thousands of unaccompanied children illegally entering the country.

“ The subcommittee report found that from October 2013 through 2015 the federal agency placed nearly 90,000 children with a sponsor, after they were detained at the border without a legal guardian. The majority of those sponsors, the report found, were a parent or legal guardian living in the country. -AP”

“Note how AP simply says that the 90,000 children were placed with a sponsor... Unfortunately, they're missing a giant link in the chain; the detention centers the kids are placed in first.

“Taking a look at the Senate subcommittee report AP references (page 8), since the thrust of the left's outrage over Trump's "Zero Tolerance" policy was originally poor migrant children being forced into cages...

“First, we have the 90,000 under Obama figure - but there's a footnote. Then the report notes that the majority of unaccompanied children over that two-year period were placed with a parent or a legal guardian.

“ Since the beginning of FY2014, HHS has placed almost 90,000 UACs [Unaccompanied Alien Child] with sponsors in the United States.(31) According to HHS, it places the majority of those UACs with the child’s parent or legal guardian.(32)

“Now let's look at that footnote (31) attached to the 90,000 figure - which directs us to an Office of Refugee Resettlement publication entitled: Unaccompanied Children Released to Sponsors by State.

“Navigating over to that document on page 2, we find section "A" which outlines "Cases in which a determination of UAC (Unaccompanied Alien Child) status has already been made."

“It's got a footnote too...

“ Asylum Offices will see evidence of these prior UAC determinations in A-files or in systems on the form I-213, Record of Deportable Alien; the Form 93 (the CBP UAC screening form0; the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) Office of Refugee Resettlement (ORR) Initial Placement Form1.

“And what do we find under the ORR footnote "1"?

"After apprehending an individual and determining that he or she is a UAC, CBP or ICE transfers him or her to a facility run by the Office of Refugee Resettlement (ORR), which is part of the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS).

“In other words – all of the unaccompanied minors detained under the Obama administration were locked up in the exact same facilities the Trump administration is using.

“Digging some more, we find a February, 2016 report from the Government Accountability Office entitled: Unaccompanied Children - HHS Can Take Further Actions To Monitor Their Care.

“In fiscal year 2014, nearly 57,500 children traveling without their parents or guardians (referred to as unaccompanied children) were apprehended by federal immigration officers and transferred to the care of the Department of Health and Human Services’ Office of Refugee Resettlement (ORR). Most of these children were from Central America.
“So tens of thousands of unaccompanied minors were taken in by the Obama administration each year and placed in government facilities.”

“So to be clear – hundreds of thousands of migrant children whose parents sent them into the United States alone or with a human trafficker remained in Obama administration facilities for up to months at a time, before eventual release or repatriation.

“In fact, if one adds up just the unaccompanied minors taken into custody between 2008 - 2016 (here and here), nearly 300,000 children were placed in federal housing under Obama.

“And as Brad Parscale points out, no one cared.”

Its hard to even take you seriously when you just puppet information that is fed you by the MSM propaganda machine.

Where was your outrage when this was happening under Obama?

You only care now, obviously, because you leftists are using the children as political pawns...and that is truly repugnant.

What would Jesus do? He always said to follow the laws of the land. He does not mix wrong with right. The road is straight and narrow. Not wide and crooked. Not the kids fault their parents are stupid enough to place their children in harm's way then complain about the circumstance they are placed in. They willingly give their children over to coyotes, much like Catholic parents keep handing their children over to pedophile priests, knowing full well they'll will be raped and anything else. And they PAY them big money to do it! You blame the wrong people. You act as if Trump drove down there, picked them up and drove them back here dropping them off at the border. Where's your ire against where it all starts? Where's your sense of reality? I'm sure if i could look at your face while spewing fantasy you'd have that look they all have. You don't even believe what you're saying.

I know, it scares the crap out of me. I'm in Illinois, and we have a new dem governor and a dem supermajority in the legislature. In just 5 months, they've legalized recreational marijuana, and been first in the nation ( you know how the dems like their firsts ) to allow it to be sold retail. So you can get your pot at quicky mart. They've legalized late term abortion They've doubled the gas tax and raised the plates 50%. Theyve expanded gambling in the state, and not only tripled the licenses available for little mini casinos in restaurants and bars, but have driven licenses for I think 5 more big casinos. They're going to raise property taxes for 2020. All in 5 months. Can you just imagine what these loons would do at the federal level if given free rein???????