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Jul 2, 2019 20:43:36   #
Hadenough
 
Bcon wrote:
Another bullcrap reply from someone with zero credibility or believability.


Bcon,

Permy will be blaming President Trump and the US when Mexico and the rest of Central America can’t field a summer Olympic team. It is our fault that anyone that can run, jump or swim was allowed to enter OUR country illegally, hence no team for them. The liberals don’t have a problem with a person claiming gender identity issues (males claiming they feel like a female competing against real females).
I say we deduct a $100,000.00 per person entering our country illegally from their country of origins foreign aid. They will tighten their own borders tighter than a frogs ass!

MAGA
God Bless the USA and President Trump

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Jul 2, 2019 20:50:52   #
Bcon
 
permafrost wrote:
You do not know much about politics... study up.. test is coming,


I may not know what you call politics, but I do know treason to one’s country, and I do know about manipulating the ignorant. What Obama was doing to this country was in my mind, treason, and the fact that you supported him makes you ignorant to the freedoms that we enjoy. You seem to not care at all about the invasion from the south or the thirty five thousand Africans that are making their way there. If you cared about this country you would do everything to protect our sovereignty, which you refuse to do. So, as far as politics, you know what you can do with them.

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Jul 2, 2019 20:52:44   #
Bcon
 
permafrost wrote:
Whatever you do don`t look, but if you do bring eagle..


What in the hell kind of unintelligent reply was that?

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Jul 2, 2019 21:24:04   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
PeterS wrote:
yup...


When you see innocent kids being put in tents sleeping on floor after getting ripped from their parents and your response is "Did they come here legally?", then we don't have a difference in political opinion.

We have a difference in morality.


Oh Boy! I hope it wasn't an English teacher who wrote that.

When I was an innocent kid, I got the hell away from my parents, went out into the boonies, pitched an old pup tent, or not, and slept on the ground. I didn't have an air mattress or sleeping bag or a bathroom or a toothbrush or a change of clothes, just the clothes on my back, a can of baked beans, a pocket knife, and a blanket. I don't recall anyone telling me I did that because of a political opinion, and no one, not even my parents, said it was immoral.

I often wonder if the day will ever come when a liberal can make it through even one hour without politicizing something. Politicizing morality is probably the most irrational act anyone can do to oppress the human spirit and open the door for immoral behavior. But, that is the wicked pathology of liberalism.



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Jul 2, 2019 21:26:07   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Rose42 wrote:
Hope you're feeling better padre.


Thank you. Long recovery is in the mix though.

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Jul 2, 2019 21:30:29   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
permafrost wrote:
I hate it when you make my point things like this out..

the fetus does not have a heart beat at only days of age, that is an electrical pulse, much like and echo from mom....
What are you bitching about, you don't have a heart, let alone one that beats.

I was just wondering. If a fetus in the womb is not a human being, why is it that, in cases where they need to identify who is the father, they take a DNA sample from the fetus. One thing I know for sure is when the baby comes out of the womb, it ain't a frog.

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Jul 2, 2019 21:37:23   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
Those young children being used as pawns and such have more sense than our homegrown leftists. They don't like the situation they are forced into any more than anyone else.

Forcing migrants to drink toilet water is what these useful idiots on the left believe. They have to protest everything because they missed out on the real civil rights marches of the 1950s-'60s. AOC won't give up on this one because her narrative is more important than the real facts. Every charge of BS leveled at her changes her narrative to include another piece of BS.

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Jul 2, 2019 21:38:59   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
When you see innocent kids being put in tents sleeping on floor after getting ripped from their parents and your response is "Did they come here legally?", then we don't have a difference in political opinion.

We have a difference in morality.


Oh Boy! I hope it wasn't an English teacher who wrote that.

When I was an innocent kid, I got the hell away from my parents, went out into the boonies, pitched an old pup tent, or not, and slept on the ground. I didn't have an air mattress or sleeping bag or a bathroom or a toothbrush or a change of clothes, just the clothes on my back, a can of baked beans, a pocket knife, and a blanket. I don't recall anyone telling me I did that because of a political opinion, and no one, not even my parents, said it was immoral.

I often wonder if the day will ever come when a liberal can make it through even one hour without politicizing something. Politicizing morality is probably the most irrational act anyone can do to oppress the human spirit and open the door for immoral behavior. But, that is the wicked pathology of liberalism.
b i When you see innocent kids being put in tent... (show quote)



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Jul 2, 2019 21:44:40   #
Iliamna1
 
TommyRadd wrote:
Yeah, let’s talk about leftist morality verses conservative morality.

Rule of law to leftists means giving illegal aliens sanctuary cities and guaranteed healthcare, including the same for rapists, drug dealers and violent gang members, while our inner cities, run by leftists and their policies, live in squalor like 3rd world countries, whose cities have maps where the worst piles of human waste are accumulating on the streets, and young students, who should be graduating with high scholastic marks, can’t read and write let alone understand the principles of freedom, liberty and social and personal responsibility. And you leftists only care about belittling and denigrating and “resisting” our President Trump’s attempts at diplomacy with our enemies which trumps your disregard for US citizens every day of the week. It’s called giving them “face.” If all Trump did was to go around claiming Putin were utter evil, what could possibly be the ice breaker at a negotiation table?

You leftist folks can’t even understand there are only two biological sexes, which are determined by chromosomes not by choice. And so, in full rejection of what has been the basic building blocks of society throughout the history of mankind, you would rather allow perverts the “liberty” and “right” to go into bathrooms not allocated to their biological sex and now our children are at risk of being molested in what should be safe places to relieve themselves. And now you’re even glorifying biological men in sports competitions with biological women, whom said men are being given awards for “beating” women, and you call that “progress”?

Our founders, who every one of them had high moral standards, did their level best to assure us all the “right to freedom of speech” and what have you leftist nut jobs done with it? You’ve decided it best to stretch it to the point where people who still accept the scientific fact that it takes one man and one woman to procreate our species should be disdained as “bigots” and so you are hellbent on criminalizing our “freedom of speech” to call a man, woman, boy or girl by their biologically determined pronouns. Yeah, you leftists are so lovingly tolerant that nothing less than denying us our free speech will suffice for you in your battle to normalize perversion and criminalize the open expression of the by-far-superiority of biological normalcy.

You leftist nut jobs insist on transforming the USA, a veritable bastion of liberty and freedom, into an ever more and more socialist country by putting more and more government programs and unelected politicians and government employees in charge of an ever expanding government knowing full well big government has always been antithetical to our Constitutional Republic, let alone that socialist and communistic ideologies have proven to be the most murderous ideologies know to mankind. And this is why you must vilify our President at every opportunity. Trump’s willingness to not destroy 150 people in reaction to a strike against an unmanned drone, regardless of his other human character flaws, far outweighs your pathetic sense of justice or morals.

You make champions of people like the Clintons who ran an international pay-for-play operation while selling out our government in the process to the highest bidder. And you want to preach to us about morals? Trump’s accumulation of wealth, although questionable it maybe, still far outweighs the morals of the leaders you champion. So instead of pointing fingers at each other’s politicians, why aren’t we as a people agreeing to hold all our politicians to at least the same moral standards as they hold the rest of us to? Leftists have their extremists in Bernie Sanders and more socialism and big government, conservatives, in the other hand, create things like the tea party which was designed to hold our politicians responsible to our convictions. So the leftist answer is more mob rule while the conservative answer is less governmental imposition and more oversight and accountability of our government.

You have transferred “freedom of religion” of the right of people to practice their religion into your manufactured illogical “freedom from religion”, and you can’t even see that you have become the oppressors of freedom of religion you claim to be against.

The same goes for freedom of speech, where your colleges and universities, rather than being bastions of free thinking and open discussion of opposing points of view now protest and reject the free discussion of conservative positions as evil and bigoted and you can’t even see how bigoted that is to hold your “convictions”.

The same goes for the right to bear arms, wherein the constitution of the USA recognizes the God-given right of people to keep and bare arms, both for self protection and protection against tyrannical governments, but your politicians seek every opportunity to infringe if not outright remove that fundamental right of a free people. And you are surprised that your “morals,” I should say total lack of anything resembling a moral compass, are scary indeed to us conservatives who love our freedoms and liberties and <gasp> our families consisting of one man and one woman.

And last but not least your party, no, your ideological leftism, is guilty of murdering more living human beings than can accurately be counted through abortion and you only show your willingness to grow worse and worse in justifying the snuffing out of human life up to the moment of birth if not even after that. And you can’t understand or fathom our outrage? Yeah, that is a serious difference in morals.

When you can show you have even the most basic of understanding of these fundamental yet simple concepts of social morals, then, perhaps we could find some common ground.

Until then, I’m more than willing to contend for the morals held by conservatives. We are obviously in a war over morals, and with every ignorant post you leftists post, and every “regressive” step you take to eradicate true morals, you only make my resolve stronger to speak out against the moral outrage that is leftism now going under the false banner, or we could say false flag, of “progressivism”. If you can’t even be honest with yourself about your identity, how could anyone ever expect you to be honest about your goals and agenda?

And we know this is the real reason you leftists are waging an all out war against our duly elected President.
So be it, if it takes a “monster” like Trump to wake people up to your excesses: I will continue to support him, not as my pastor, or other “spiritual” mentor or model, but for the simple purpose of making sure folks with such twisted morals as those in your leftist camp can be silenced and defeated at every attempt of influencing this world with their amoral corruption.
Yeah, let’s talk about leftist morality verses con... (show quote)


I couldn't have said it better. Thanks.

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Jul 2, 2019 21:45:17   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
permafrost wrote:
I will forever "do as I wilt" i damn well earned it..

Do you realize who said that?

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Jul 2, 2019 21:57:19   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
permafrost wrote:
lot of words to say nothing but what you have echoed as instructed for years.. anything new??

Let us spend a moment and address "conservative morality" an oxymoron if ever we had one..


Morality among trump supports does not exist. the words are used in a calculated effort to gain a goal dictated by the orange con and his following Republicans..

What will they do with the base when they have no more wealth to be given to the richest 10% and his orangeness himself..

for that matter, how do you see the cost (real cost) of government being paid for? by the non-functioning middle class? the workers??

If row/wade is removed, what do you orange cult people plan to do with any extra babies? you oppose care for them. if the mother can not care for the little darlin, will you reuse the pens along the border?

If you manage to end the ACA, what will you do with those who can not afford meds like Insulin?

Revive those never existed FEMA camps..

Do you have any plan at all?

As always and forever, the right wingers/orange cult has wished to end everything and replace nothing..

never any plan for America, only demands to fully stop what you do not like..

No compromise, no settlement, no replacement only STOP, STOP, STOP..

find a plan and you will find many eager to work with you.
lot of words to say nothing but what you have echo... (show quote)


The plan is to teach personal responsibility to children instead of coddling them. Give a man a fish you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime. Big government has become the parent to many of our citizens and as a result, they have failed to grow up and accept any responsibility for their own actions. Everything is someone else's fault. Leftists are stunted in their own growth and because they have immature thinking they think sixteen-year-olds have enough sense to vote. They don't. It only seems that way to them because their own growth is stunted at a sixteen-year-old so they think everyone at that age should be able to vote.

That's the beauty of America, equality of opportunity, not outcomes. Stupid people will always do stupid things. Life is hard if you are stupid. You can't create a utopia.

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Jul 2, 2019 22:06:22   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
permafrost wrote:
Are you trying to argue abortion or transgender????

make up you mind,, one or the other..

As for me both issues when you are involved have the same answer..

All you care about is that some one else in the world do only as you want them to do..

Forget about their choice, their rights.. only do what you want..

That is the only issue.. that you get your way, not what or why anyone else wants..

But now at least the problem for you is that as the founders wished all Americans have rights and they are denied those rights because someone like you does not like those choices..

get a life..
Are you trying to argue abortion or transgender???... (show quote)


What rights do the unborn have and who speaks for them?

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Jul 2, 2019 22:17:55   #
JoyV
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
So true. Those kids are being used and abused and I find it disgusting. Could there be some agency to find the parents of the children who came in with adults whoseDNA doesn’t match.


Court order was to stop taking DNA swabs. The Democrats in Congress wants Trump to do as Obama did and take the word of any adult and turn over the child, even if the child says they don't know the adult and doesn't want to be given to the adult.

The kids who come in multiple times with different adults often do not have parents in the US.

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Jul 2, 2019 22:23:20   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
permafrost wrote:
Wow, how to deal with the human tidal wave??

where the heck were you with that comment when President Obama had to deal with it..

This is an example of what the republicans do, the dems put through a bill and the senate stops it..

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/house-bill-migrants-border-showdown-senate

The House approved a $4.5 billion supplemental spending bill on Tuesday night to address humanitarian issues at the U.S.-Mexico border and to provide additional funding for food, water, medical services and stronger protections for unaccompanied children, among other things -- setting up a showdown between the Democrat-led House and the Republican-led Senate.

As you know the senate bill passed..
Wow, how to deal with the human tidal wave?? br ... (show quote)


Plenty of fault and finger-pointing from both sides. Not every liberal is bad. Not every conservative is good. But Perm, I would have thought that at your age you would have seen firsthand the damage done to the world and this country by leftists. Quit looking at everything as an all or none prospect.

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Jul 2, 2019 22:26:41   #
JoyV
 
permafrost wrote:
Are you trying to argue abortion or transgender????

make up you mind,, one or the other..

As for me both issues when you are involved have the same answer..

All you care about is that some one else in the world do only as you want them to do..

Forget about their choice, their rights.. only do what you want..

That is the only issue.. that you get your way, not what or why anyone else wants..

But now at least the problem for you is that as the founders wished all Americans have rights and they are denied those rights because someone like you does not like those choices..

get a life..
Are you trying to argue abortion or transgender???... (show quote)


So if wanting to protect children and preventing their murder is a case of wanting others to do as we say, then you should have no ground to stand in complaining about children (who are not your own) being detained and NOT murdered.

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