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Jun 8, 2019 16:56:10   #
John King
 
jeff smith wrote:
the second amendment was written , so "WE THE PEOPLE COULD DEFEND OURSELVES AND /OR OUR COUNTRY FROM AN ENEMY FROM OUTSIE OF OUR BOARDERS OR FROM WITHIN OUR BOARDERS " . not you or this government has the right OR authority to deny the people of this great country the "RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS" . so many people want to "ban " the weapon of choice . if you had your way and banned the semi- automatic firearm . what would you ban next ? then after that? and then after that ? you would ban every firearm that people owned . then only police and criminals would own a firearm . how would you defend yourself from a criminal with a firearm even if it were only a 6 shooter ? with a pitchfork or a knife ? or would these be banned also ? these could also be used to kill a person . why not ban the automobile ? hay there are more people killed in wreaks than with a firearm . why not ban airplanes ? hundreds of people die when a plane goes down .
the second amendment was written , so "WE THE... (show quote)


Sounds like something I wrote earlier!

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Jun 8, 2019 18:01:26   #
jeff smith
 
John King wrote:
Sounds like something I wrote earlier!


I see a topic like this I do get carried away . if you said something similar earlier . glad to see more people are for our rights . keep up the arguments to defend our rights.

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Jun 9, 2019 03:27:10   #
John King
 
PeterS wrote:
Once again we had another mass shooting involving a semi-automatic weapon. So what's the solution? Well, we can start by banning the weapon of choice--the semi-automatic weapon. Do that, and we at least give people a chance. And notice, I am not saying ban all guns just the ones responsible for all the mass slayings. This leaves bolt actions, pumps, and revolvers to satisfy our second amendment requirement--all of which are better than when the second amendment was written.

This leaves the question of how we enforce such a law and as I stated before--a fine of 10,000 and a couple of years in jail will lend to them being turned in in droves. Of course, the most radical right wing nuts will hold out but there is no argument that outweighs the common good of our country and that's what it comes down to...the common good.
Once again we had another mass shooting involving ... (show quote)


YOU'RE DONE!!!

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Jun 9, 2019 04:46:21   #
PeterS
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Correction: Semi-auto handguns don't come with extended magazines. You have to buy them separately, they are expensive, and only a small percentage who own semi-autos buy them. They are more of a novelty than a practical item. Even so, what's the BFD? Only pussies worry about things like this.

The BFD are all the kids who get slaughtered in their schools yearly using semi-automatic weapons. And while I understand that you fine Christian Conservatives don't care about children being killed in their classrooms--they have to be in the womb for that--I can assure you don't have to be a PUSSY to be concerned about life once it exits a woman's vagina...

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Jun 9, 2019 05:01:49   #
PeterS
 
jeff smith wrote:
the second amendment was written , so "WE THE PEOPLE COULD DEFEND OURSELVES AND /OR OUR COUNTRY FROM AN ENEMY FROM OUTSIE OF OUR BOARDERS OR FROM WITHIN OUR BOARDERS " . not you or this government has the right OR authority to deny the people of this great country the "RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS" . so many people want to "ban " the weapon of choice . if you had your way and banned the semi- automatic firearm . what would you ban next ? then after that? and then after that ? you would ban every firearm that people owned . then only police and criminals would own a firearm . how would you defend yourself from a criminal with a firearm even if it were only a 6 shooter ? with a pitchfork or a knife ? or would these be banned also ? these could also be used to kill a person . why not ban the automobile ? hay there are more people killed in wreaks than with a firearm . why not ban airplanes ? hundreds of people die when a plane goes down .
the second amendment was written , so "WE THE... (show quote)

The constitution says you have a right to bear arms. It says nothing about the types of weapons people should be allowed to have. If you want to have guns then you have to be willing to compromise. If you can't compromise then be prepared to come out of it with a pocket knife as the only weapon Yahoo's are allowed to own...

As for the Second Amendment, it was written because it was believed a free standing army outside times of war too dangerous to the freedom and liberty of the public but since you cons so love the military and we have the baddest the world has to offer you have pretty much made the Second Amendment null and void. If you want to dismantle the military, as per the wishes of the founders, then, by all means, our militia should have access to any and all weapons necessary to defend our country. If you don't then we can rely on our military to protect us and a bolt action, shotgun, or six shooters will be more than sufficient for our homes...

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Jun 9, 2019 08:49:43   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
PeterS wrote:
The constitution says you have a right to bear arms. It says nothing about the types of weapons people should be allowed to have. If you want to have guns then you have to be willing to compromise. If you can't compromise then be prepared to come out of it with a pocket knife as the only weapon Yahoo's are allowed to own...

As for the Second Amendment, it was written because it was believed a free standing army outside times of war too dangerous to the freedom and liberty of the public but since you cons so love the military and we have the baddest the world has to offer you have pretty much made the Second Amendment null and void. If you want to dismantle the military, as per the wishes of the founders, then, by all means, our militia should have access to any and all weapons necessary to defend our country. If you don't then we can rely on our military to protect us and a bolt action, shotgun, or six shooters will be more than sufficient for our homes...
The constitution says you have a right to bear arm... (show quote)


The 2'nd Amendment's primary purpose is to protect the citizens from an out of control government, and those that might try to run it.
Democrats for example.
Why is it Democrats are for gun control?
Do you think violent criminals are for gun control?

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Jun 9, 2019 09:04:03   #
Mikeyavelli
 
eagleye13 wrote:
The 2'nd Amendment's primary purpose is to protect the citizens from an out of control government, and those that might try to run it.
Democrats for example.
Why is it Democrats are for gun control?
Do you think violent criminals are for gun control?


The kommiecrats want to control every aspect of life. Me having guns means that they can't control me at all.

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Jun 9, 2019 09:55:40   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
The kommiecrats want to control every aspect of life. Me having guns means that they can't control me at all.


And that in particular is what a muzlimkommiecrat like L'peter has in mind when his type wants to confiscate firearms.

He couldn't care less for American children, (born or unborn) the bassturd told me to feed my grandchildren lead one day when I was kicking his ass in debate.

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Jun 9, 2019 12:01:24   #
JoyV
 
permafrost wrote:
Now I am not sure how trump attempt to kick people of the stamps has worked, but found the basics under the old rules..

Of course food stamp use goes down as the economy improves.. It started when Obama got enough juice in the economy to bring done the various state exemptions by the rule in place for decades..

President John F. Kennedy implemented a pilot version of the program. In 1964, new legislation made the program permanent. Under the program, working-age adults without children can receive benefits for three months in three years. After that time limit, they must work at least 80 hours per month or participate in an education or job training program for that same amount of time. States can temporarily waive the three-month time limit when unemployment rates rise, and many did so during the economic recession that started in the late 2000s.


however you wish to twist the great recession numbers, it is clear and with our doubt that President Obama did the heavy lifting..

trump lives off the work done by President Obama and so far he has not ruined the economy.. not from lack of trying..

Do you think he will apply the 5% tariffs on Monday? I do not think they will happen. It seem the senate has found some brass and has been pushing hard for some thinking and sense on the use of tariffs to engage in an immigration issue.. so I think they have made a dent in the orange head and we will have a delay on Monday with the promise to do it if no contrition on the part of Mexico BP..



As the economy has improved, states have had to drop those waivers, especially since 2016. On April 1, 2016, after the first three-month period passed, an estimated 500,000 to 1 million people in 22 states lost their benefits.



President John F. Kennedy implemented a pilot version of the program. In 1964, new legislation made the program permanent. Under the program, working-age adults without children can receive benefits for three months in three years. After that time limit, they must work at least 80 hours per month or participate in an education or job training program for that same amount of time. States can temporarily waive the three-month time limit when unemployment rates rise, and many did so during the economic recession that started in the late 2000s.

As the economy has improved, states have had to drop those waivers, especially since 2016. On April 1, 2016, after the first three-month period passed, an estimated 500,000 to 1 million people in 22 states lost their benefits.

It very much should be obvious that the "part time and Low wage" baloney is simply more of the never ending attempts on the right to try and minimize the work done by President Obama..

All should hide in shame for that kind crap..
Now I am not sure how trump attempt to kick people... (show quote)


Note that the number enrolled in SNAP (food stamps) INCREASED during Obama's term. There was a slight decrease his last year in office. But that decrease did not even begin to return to the number of when he took office. If his policies were so good for the economy, the high should have been when he took office, with a decrease starting at least one year after he took office. Instead, food stamp enrollment climbed far more for nearly 7 years.



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Jun 9, 2019 12:04:37   #
JoyV
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
I am not a liar so your response is incorrect.


????

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Jun 9, 2019 12:09:56   #
JoyV
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
Ok so you agree with me. I really don't care for semi automatic rifles.--They jam don't feed right and must be kept spotless to operate. I have bolt actions a lever action and a pump shotgun. Love them all and they are trouble free. Banning semi autos won't change a thing. Much more strict and highly researched background checks would help in some cases. That is my gripe about the background check. 5 minutes is the longest I have had to wait. Pistols do take 3 days.


While I agree with you on your facts, not sure longer waiting time would make any difference. Would the wait time change who passed the check which the NCIS completes in minutes? Should they run it through the system multiple times? The rational for waiting times was to give the buyer a chance to change their mind, not change who qualified. When it became apparent waiting times did not change the number of sales, most states discontinued them.

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Jun 9, 2019 12:22:30   #
Mikeyavelli
 
byronglimish wrote:
And that in particular is what a muzlimkommiecrat like L'peter has in mind when his type wants to confiscate firearms.

He couldn't care less for American children, (born or unborn) the bassturd told me to feed my grandchildren lead one day when I was kicking his ass in debate.


Lil Peter is at work now poking holes in swiss cheese with his peter.
He's back from cleaning the Saturday night mess in the peep show booths at the local truck stop.
He wouldn't have had to work at all if Hillary had won.

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Jun 9, 2019 12:23:38   #
JoyV
 
Morgan wrote:
Ah once again you bring up your relentless argument, but this is very interesting, there may be some awareness going on here with your reply on how to handle guns, and like I've pointed out to you the same goes for abortions and the underlying problems, maybe you did read my post after all?

I'm not here to resurrect that conversation. The point is the underlying problems.

While Peter makes a very valid point also, the public does not need to have semi-automatic guns, not for self-defense or hunting. A hunter should perfect his skills and not be using a semi-automatic, just as the archer perfects his aim.
Ah once again you bring up your relentless argumen... (show quote)


You have to aim a semiautomatic just as well as any other rifle. I am not advocating hunting with a semiautomatic or without one. But the points raise so far against semiautomatics have been bogus. But as for self defense, DEFINITELY a semiautomatic can provide a big edge when defending against someone crazed, fanatical, on drugs, enraged, or specifically after you and not just a random burglary. I was taught that when defending against someone attacking, empty the magazine into them, as they can still come on even after being shot multiple times and even if the shot is ultimately fatal. This can be accomplished far more easily with a semiautomatic. Though a shotgun has its pros in close up defense as well. If the bad actor does not meet the criteria I listed, the sound of a pump action shotgun can be a good deterrent.

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Jun 9, 2019 12:30:29   #
JoyV
 
Morgan wrote:
A Trump follower going against our own Constitution, why doesn't that surprise me. Just as I've read from another poster that they would be all in with a dictatorship if Trump was at the helm. Amazed in disbelief, who are you people?

Trump flourishes America, not really seeing it, two things have happened to improve our condition which was already improving, one hit to the deregulations, so we gave industry what they wanted at the cost to our environment, and not much on improvements on the cost of living trickle-down benefits. While food greatly increases peoples wages at the lower spectrum hardly has improved. Therefore it is now harder for them not easier. Which means by the way they will need more assistance due to it. I realize for the right connecting the dots is a challenge. I will say though, Trump finances have flourished.
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Please document any harm which has befallen our environment under Trump.

If peoples wages have not increased, why are fewer people below the minimum income level required to be enrolled on food stamps? Why have I been able to more than double my client fees which I had previously had to drop to the point of teetering on the brink of collapse. (My clients for guide dogs and service dogs come from all over the country so this financial improvement is not a local improvement but is widespread.)

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Jun 9, 2019 12:35:38   #
Mikeyavelli
 
JoyV wrote:
Please document any harm which has befallen our environment under Trump.

If peoples wages have not increased, why are fewer people below the minimum income level required to be enrolled on food stamps? Why have I been able to more than double my client fees which I had previously had to drop to the point of teetering on the brink of collapse. (My clients for guide dogs and service dogs come from all over the country so this financial improvement is not a local improvement but is widespread.)
Please document any harm which has befallen our en... (show quote)


Joy, you are trying to be sensible with those who saw the sky fall and the oceans rise and the economy tank as soon as Trump was elected.
As long as Trump is president, the world will be reported as being in chaos and destruction from everything that Trump does.
They are livid with anger that they lost.
Let them jump through the floor like Rumplestiltskin did.

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