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May 15, 2019 18:37:43   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
4430 wrote:
JW wrote:
You think that creep should be given parental rights? He rapes a 12 year old girl, threatens to kill her if she talks, gets her pregnant and now wants visitation rights? You gotta be out of your mind if you support that crap...


4430 wrote:
Sounds like you're overjoyed with the verdict !

I wonder why I'm not surprised !


Stupid people say stupid things and here we see no exception. How JW and 4430 come off with the idiocy to think that PeterS is condoning the stupidity of the judge in this case is beyond me, perhaps I need to get a major lobotomy or extremely drunk to the point to where my brain is barely functioning to quite understand the stupidity behind their assumptions.

We on the right are always coming down on the liberals ans in this case did so with this liberal judge !

So when Pete posted >>> Damn liberal judges are at it again <<<

It's like well here comes the Right's good Ole liberal knockers which led me to think he didn't have a problem with this judge , but the problem was with us who haven't much use for liberals especially Judges!

What other purpose was even posting it in the first place than to poke at the right for being against garbage like this when it happens ?
JW wrote: br You think that creep should be given ... (show quote)


Because even though we have no way to know whether this judge was liberal or conservative, he is likely Republican since they are the ones that tend to favor rapists and rapist's rights. PeterS was likely only being facetious when he claimed the judge was a liberal.

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May 15, 2019 19:10:55   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
Because even though we have no way to know whether this judge was liberal or conservative, he is likely Republican since they are the ones that tend to favor rapists and rapist's rights. PeterS was likely only being facetious when he claimed the judge was a liberal.


Well CSM looks like you are wrong !

Roger Gregory is an appointee of President Bill Clinton.

President Clinton nominated Gregory to serve on the 4th Circuit Court of Appeals on June 30th, 2000. That seat had been vacant for almost a decade, and Clinton had previously nominated a candidate for the position whom the Senate did not confirm.

The Senate did not take up Roger Gregory’s appointment, and so Clinton appointed Gregory himself via a recess appointment shortly after Christmas 2000.

However, in 2001, President George W. Bush renominated Roger Gregory to the position, and the Senate confirmed him this time. Only one person voted against Gregory’s appointment: Trent Lott, who took issue with President Clinton’s use of a recess appointment a year earlier.

Roger Gregory is now the chief judge on the 4th Circuit Court of Appeals. He has served in that position for less than a year, being elevated in July 2016. He replaced William Traxler, whose term as chief judge ended in 2016.

According to The Washington Post, Gregory was seen as bringing “liberal perspectives” to the position of chief judge compared with Traxler’s “more centrist views.”

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May 15, 2019 19:13:46   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
Because even though we have no way to know whether this judge was liberal or conservative, he is likely Republican since they are the ones that tend to favor rapists and rapist's rights. PeterS was likely only being facetious when he claimed the judge was a liberal.


Well it looks like Pete was right after all !

Damn liberal judges are at it again...

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May 15, 2019 20:25:58   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
4430 wrote:
Well CSM looks like you are wrong !

Roger Gregory is an appointee of President Bill Clinton.

President Clinton nominated Gregory to serve on the 4th Circuit Court of Appeals on June 30th, 2000. That seat had been vacant for almost a decade, and Clinton had previously nominated a candidate for the position whom the Senate did not confirm.

The Senate did not take up Roger Gregory’s appointment, and so Clinton appointed Gregory himself via a recess appointment shortly after Christmas 2000.

However, in 2001, President George W. Bush renominated Roger Gregory to the position, and the Senate confirmed him this time. Only one person voted against Gregory’s appointment: Trent Lott, who took issue with President Clinton’s use of a recess appointment a year earlier.

Roger Gregory is now the chief judge on the 4th Circuit Court of Appeals. He has served in that position for less than a year, being elevated in July 2016. He replaced William Traxler, whose term as chief judge ended in 2016.

According to The Washington Post, Gregory was seen as bringing “liberal perspectives” to the position of chief judge compared with Traxler’s “more centrist views.”
Well CSM looks like you are wrong ! br br Roger G... (show quote)


Yeah, because Judge Gregory S Ross is the same person as Judge Roger L. Gregory, the one Bill Clinton ACTUALLY appointed. Good try though. Also, supposing that the two individuals WERE the same person, even though the judge in the case in discussion is white and the one Clinton appointed is black, presidents have been known to appoint OUTSIDE their own party before. Again you show you have no clue what you talk about.

Go ahead, take a look at both and you tell me if they are the same person or not.

https://ballotpedia.org/Gregory_S._Ross

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Gregory

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May 15, 2019 20:29:09   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
4430 wrote:
Well it looks like Pete was right after all !

Damn liberal judges are at it again...


No, because you like the bonehead you are, you ASSUMED that Judge Gregory S. Ross and Judge Roger Gregory must be the same person because the one shares his first name with the other as their last name. A real Einstein you are aren't you?

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May 15, 2019 20:30:30   #
Iliamna1
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
Again an example of some people with little reading comprehension. How does "This is what we get from the pro life zealots--just sayin'" mean anything other than a condemnation of a "pro life zealot" (being the moronic judge in this case) giving partial custody to the rapist is clearly wrong? I can see that clearly as I suspect anyone with even half a brain can easily see.



Why would ANY of you think that either PeterS or Coos Bay Tom would be advocating for a rapist getting custody of the product of his rape of a young girl? If either party is to be accused of favoring rapists, it would be the Republican party. They are the ones that most frequently stand behind their politicians accused of rape and rape like criminal behavior. Democrats usually try to distance themselves from other Democrats being accused of such crimes as rape and other rape like crimes. The Democrats may stand behind their politicians that may be somewhat sexually deviant but as long as it was consensual deviancy, many will still support, if it was non-consensual, they typically denounce that politician. Republicans tend to remain supportive of their politicians that forcibly rape women and they tend to be against abortions even in the case of rape so...

Keep that in mind when trying to determine whether someone is for or against such circumstances and you are less likely to say something so totally asinine.





P.S. In support of my claim about Republicans being so cavalier when dealing with rape...

http://addictinginfo.com/2013/07/16/the-party-of-rape-culture-40-republican-rape-quotes-everyone-should-remember/ (article concerning actual quotes from Republicans concerning rape issues)

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2017/11/gop-cant-quite-bring-itself-to-back-an-alleged-child-rapist.html (I applaud the Republicans in this case, provided in the interest of fairness)

https://www.newsweek.com/why-are-republicans-enabling-child-sex-abusers-539059 (Ken Starr, the same guy that thought what Bill Clinton did was so wrong even if it WAS consensual, he has nothing against forcible rape or kiddie rape)

Not to mention Brett Kavanaugh, Donald Trump (didn't rape anyone we know of but sexual misconduct galore) and many more Republicans accused of serious sexual misconduct that Republicans continue to support while demonizing their accusers.
Again an example of some people with little readin... (show quote)


I stand by what I posted. There were no false accusations or slander of anyone, liberal, Democrat, conservative or Republican. I think child rapists should be castrated and the interesting thing, some of them have actually requested to have this done rather than to spend a life locked up or worse yet, to re-offend... So what was so terrible about what I posted? Did you read it? I don't think so.

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May 15, 2019 21:05:59   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
Iliamna1 wrote:
I stand by what I posted. There were no false accusations or slander of anyone, liberal, Democrat, conservative or Republican. I think child rapists should be castrated and the interesting thing, some of them have actually requested to have this done rather than to spend a life locked up or worse yet, to re-offend... So what was so terrible about what I posted? Did you read it? I don't think so.


I disagree with your very first line in which you stated, and I quote:

Iliamna1 wrote:
Dear Coos, you and I get long pretty well and it appears that you disagree with pro-lifers wanting a severe punishment inflicted on sexual predators.


With that statement, you are implying, very falsely of course, that PeterS is AGAINST severe punishments for the offender in the case being discussed. Only a fool could make such a claim, that or someone deliberately wishing to falsely impugn on someone else's integrity. So which is it? A deliberate attempt to deceive others into thinking that PeterS is FOR less severe punishment or are you incapable of understanding what PeterS was trying to say in the posting of this thread?

He was NOT saying that the rapist should have gotten a lighter sentence, what he was saying was that the rapist should NOT have been granted shared custody of the product of his crime, the little boy born of his raping the under-aged girl. No rapist should EVER be granted joint, shared or even full custody of a child produced from their crime. They should have NO rights to that child AND they should be required to pay child support as well. They were the criminal, not the victim.

The only confusing part of PeterS's initial post was his facetious comment blaming liberal judges for that ruling. I and I am sure he as well, do not for one moment believe the judge that presided over that case was in fact a "liberal judge".




Edit: As for the last comment in the particular posting to which this reply is in reply of... Very moronic statement, of course I read the post in question and the very first line was completely off base.

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May 15, 2019 21:19:38   #
Iliamna1
 
That was addressed to Coos Bay who stated "This is what we get from the pro life zealots--just sayin'." It had not one thing to do with what Peter wrote and with whom I completely agreed..
There are so many people posting on this line, it's easy to confuse who said what to whom.

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May 15, 2019 21:33:25   #
PeterS
 
JW wrote:
You think that creep should be given parental rights? He rapes a 12 year old girl, threatens to kill her if she talks, gets her pregnant and now wants visitation rights? You gotta be out of your mind if you support that crap...

And just how did you conclude that I supported "that" crap. The only reason a 12-year-old girl has to have her rapists baby is because of the maggots on the Right. Your ideology is the reason such people can get away with that kind of crap!

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May 15, 2019 21:36:55   #
PeterS
 
4430 wrote:
Well it looks like Pete was right after all !

Damn liberal judges are at it again...

Yeah, we liberals figure that since it was okay for god could rape Mary then rape is a prefered means of Christian procreation...

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May 15, 2019 21:50:11   #
Rose42
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
With that statement, you are implying, very falsely of course, that PeterS is AGAINST severe punishments for the offender in the case being discussed. Only a fool could make such a claim, that or someone deliberately wishing to falsely impugn on someone else's integrity. So which is it? A deliberate attempt to deceive others into thinking that PeterS is FOR less severe punishment or are you incapable of understanding what PeterS was trying to say in the posting of this thread?

He was NOT saying that the rapist should have gotten a lighter sentence, what he was saying was that the rapist should NOT have been granted shared custody of the product of his crime, the little boy born of his raping the under-aged girl. No rapist should EVER be granted joint, shared or even full custody of a child produced from their crime. They should have NO rights to that child AND they should be required to pay child support as well. They were the criminal, not the victim.

The only confusing part of PeterS's initial post was his facetious comment blaming liberal judges for that ruling. I and I am sure he as well, do not for one moment believe the judge that presided over that case was in fact a "liberal judge".




Edit: As for the last comment in the particular posting to which this reply is in reply of... Very moronic statement, of course I read the post in question and the very first line was completely off base.
With that statement, you are implying, very falsel... (show quote)


Its amusing to remember you once saying there’s more ‘hate’ coming from the right yet time and time again you call others stupid, morons, etc. You’re a pretentious boor.

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May 15, 2019 22:02:35   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
Iliamna1 wrote:
That was addressed to Coos Bay who stated "This is what we get from the pro life zealots--just sayin'." It had not one thing to do with what Peter wrote and with whom I completely agreed..
There are so many people posting on this line, it's easy to confuse who said what to whom.


Yes, I got lost a bit, I meant that the implication was against Coos Bay Tom, who also doesn't believe, judging based on his comment, that the rapist should be granted shared custody of the product of his crime. I can not fathom ANYBODY being FOR a rapist being granted shared custody of the product of their crime but obviously some ARE for it as the judge did in fact grant him such. The judge tried to claim that he was unaware that the father of the child had raped the underage girl to create the child, I don't believe that for one second, it wouldn't have been brought up during the proceedings. I guarantee that it would be brought up, it would be the girl's best chance to deprive the rapist of any custody arrangement.

I am quite conservative in many ways but I also have my liberal side, I favor the victims. I have seen far too many cases of conservatives favoring the victimizers, as was done in the case in question.

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May 15, 2019 22:20:02   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
No, because you like the bonehead you are, you ASSUMED that Judge Gregory S. Ross and Judge Roger Gregory must be the same person because the one shares his first name with the other as their last name. A real Einstein you are aren't you?


I stand corrected !

So Pete I apologize Sir:

I redid a complete search and could not find anywhere what political party Judge Gregory S. Ross belonged too !

He in fact could very well be a Republican and if that's the case I'd be just as hard on him as if he were a liberal Democrat !

However to his credit whether he was a Democrat or a Republican he rescinded his order and this is what I found !

One good thing about it was The assistant prosecutor in charge of the case, Eric G. Scott, was fired on October 18, 2017 .

Christopher Mirasolo custody case (2017)

Ross awarded Christopher Mirasolo joint legal custody of an 8-year-old boy in September 2017 after DNA testing established Mirasolo's paternity of the child. He put the custody order on hold on October 10, 2017, and rescinded it on October 17, 2017.

Mirasolo allegedly raped the boy's mother in 2008, when she was 12 years old. The Detroit News reported that the original charges for the assault carried a potential sentence of 25 years to life, but Mirasolo received a one-year plea deal for a reduced charge of third-degree criminal sexual conduct. He was released to take care of his sick mother after six and a half months in county jail. After his release, he was convicted of a second sexual assault, on a victim between the ages of 13 and 15, and served additional time.

In the October 17 order rescinding his original custody ruling, Ross said he was unaware of Mirasolo's sexual misconduct convictions when he ruled in the case. "The question that everyone is asking is 'How could a judge do such a thing?'" he said. "The answer is that this judge was not aware, did not have knowledge of the fact that the defendant raped the plaintiff and the child was born as a result."

Sanilac County Prosecutor James Young, whose office initiated the custody hearing when Mirasolo's victim applied for state aid, released a statement to the Port Huron Times Herald apologizing for the handling of the case. The assistant prosecutor in charge of the case, Eric G. Scott, was fired on October 18, 2017. "This action [firing Scott] is the result of the prosecutor's review of the office policy, procedures and the legal review of Mr. Scott's handling of the paternity case involving Christopher Mirasolo," the Sanilac County Prosecutor's Office said in a press release.

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May 15, 2019 22:31:33   #
Iliamna1
 
PeterS wrote:
Yeah, we liberals figure that since it was okay for god could rape Mary then rape is a prefered means of Christian procreation...


That statement is soo offensive on so many levels ! There was no rape. The Holy Spirit overshadowed her and caused her seed to grow. The angel explained the plan to her and she consented. That is not a rape.

Jesus’ Birth Foretold

26 Now in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God to a city in Galilee called Nazareth, 27 to a virgin engaged to a man whose name was Joseph, of the descendants of David; and the virgin’s name was Mary. 28 And coming in, he said to her, “Greetings, favored one! The Lord is with you.” 29 But she was very perplexed at this statement, and kept pondering what kind of salutation this was. 30 The angel said to her, “Do not be afraid, Mary; for you have found favor with God. 31 And behold, you will conceive in your womb and bear a son, and you shall name Him Jesus. 32 He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High; and the Lord God will give Him the throne of His father David; 33 and He will reign over the house of Jacob forever, and His kingdom will have no end.” 34 Mary said to the angel, “How can this be, since I am a virgin?” 35 The angel answered and said to her, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; and for that reason the holy Child shall be called the Son of God. 36 And behold, even your relative Elizabeth has also conceived a son in her old age; and she who was called barren is now in her sixth month. 37 For nothing will be impossible with God.” 38 And Mary said, “Behold, the bondslave of the Lord; may it be done to me according to your word.” And the angel departed from her.

I know of not one single person who thinks rape is a preferred means of procreation, Christian or otherwise, including any liberals. If God can create the universe, He certainly can make an egg develop into a human body without the 'help' of a human male. How depraved is your thinking to say such a thing?

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May 15, 2019 22:37:19   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
PeterS wrote:
Yeah, we liberals figure that since it was okay for god could rape Mary then rape is a prefered means of Christian procreation...


WOW You are one sicko for sure !

You have absolutely no understanding of God !

God said he would give you folks over to a reprobate mind and you have just proved it extremely well !

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