whitnebrat Loc: In the wilds of Oregon

Thank you for crediting me with a certain moral sense and some intelligence. I would respectfully disagree with your conclusions, however.
We progressives/liberals were wrong to assume that Trump could never win the election. We dismissed him as a buffoon, a misogynist and morally corrupt. The populace would never elect such a person to this high office, we asserted. We were wrong.
The indignation and outrage at the outcome of the election was that we realized that a morally corrupt and constitutionally ignorant person had achieved what we thought was impossible. We realized that the candidate that we put forward was not strong enough to repel the gutter politics that were employed in the race. We thought that it could never happen, but it did.
That realization has been a shock to the entire governmental system. Norms that existed for a hundred years or more are being ignored and upended. The refusal to accept that Congress and the federal Judiciary are co-equal branches of government is one of those norms.
The present administration's juggernaut of rolling over both Congress and most moral conventions is appalling to most progressives and even many independents that voted for it.
The policies put forth so far (if you can call them that) are regressive and put us into the situation that we were in prior to both WW1 and WW2, where were in an isolationist mode and got dragged kicking and screaming into major world conflicts.
Probably the one thing that bothers me (and many others) the most is the president's total inability or unwillingness to confront Putin about virtually any abuse that the Russians have perpetrated ... be it the interference in the election or the invasions of Georgia and the Ukraine, ... giving the Russian bear much more clout on the world stage. If you include the withdrawal from numerous treaties and trade deals, it becomes much more to Russia's advantage. You will probably say that this administration has been much tougher on Russia than any previous one with sanctions, but the weakening of NATO and the withdrawal of the US from major agreements outweighs any pressure that the sanctions have caused the Russians.
Yes, we libtards (as you call us) are aggrieved at the outcome of the election both on moral and political grounds. It was our own fault that it happened, and that simmering outrage resulted in the flip of the House of Representatives in 2018, resulting in all the investigations which Congress has every right to pursue. I personally view them as payback for all the slights over the first two years of the new administration, and as a result of the moral outrage and revulsion that such a person can be in the highest office of the land.
Just my humble opinion, your mileage may vary ... and undoubtedly will.

Morgan

Well said

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

Indeed.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

She has a way with words, doesn't she...

(winks at whitnbrat )

Morgan

Here's the relevant line in the report: "The conclusion that Congress may apply the obstruction laws to the President's corrupt exercise of the powers of office accords with our constitutional system of checks and balances and the principle that no person is above the law."
The report also cites Supreme Court precedent and the separation of powers to say "the Constitution does not categorically and permanently immunize a President for obstructing justice."

Mueller then suggested to continue the research under obstruction and not collusion.

White House counsel Don McGahn received a phone call at home from Trump on June 17, 2017. Trump directed McGahn to call Rosenstein and tell him Mueller "had conflicts of interest and must be removed."

Mueller provided Trump with written questions to answer but was not satisfied with the President's responses.
"We noted, among other things, that the President stated on more than 30 occasions that he 'does not 'recall' or ' remember' or have an ' independent recollection'' of information called for by the questions. Other answers were 'incomplete or imprecise,'" the report says.

Pages and paragraphs you'll have to look up yourself. Every time someone got close they were fired.

Why Mueller didn't subpoena the president I'm not sure, he should have, and I am suspect of Mueller intentionally not fully doing his job and simply sitting on the fence for self preservation.

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

Thanks for the praise, ol' timer

At 70 years old, being called a "boy" is a boost to my ego.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

70 years young

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

Tell that to my children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren.

To them, I'm older than dirt.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Introduce them to Badbobby

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

I doubt they could handle the shock of knowing he is old enough to be my father.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

I keep trying to Spot him everytime I see a Black and white photo

Radiance3

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You talk non-sense. You need to dissect your brain. I have defined to you the legal framework that decides the right from the wrong. Seems to me you have so many tangle web in your brain. Clean it up.

You can blabber over and over, you put nothing but can of worms. Not worth my time.

Radiance3

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Your brain needs to be overhauled. You are so confused and lost, dictated by liberal substance. Clean them up. You are no longer worth my time.

Again I'm showing you; these are the forces that dissect every questionable issue within. Then arrived at the conclusion on the Mueller report.

Special Counsel noted that, in completing his investigation, he employed 19 lawyers who were assisted by a team of approximately 40 FBI agents, intelligence analysts, forensic accountants, and other professional staff. The Special Counsel issued more than 2,800 subpoenas, executed nearly 500 search warrants, obtained more than 230 orders for communication records, issued almost 50 orders authorizing use of pen registers, made 13 requests to foreign governments for evidence, and interviewed approximately 500 witnesses.

whitnebrat Loc: In the wilds of Oregon

Restating things over and over does not make them true (with apologies to Josef Goebels) except to the true believers (read fanatics). There have been innumerable investigations into whether atrocities occurred, and yet nothing was ever proven. Countless times, there was evidence pointing to the guilt of a suspect, and yet they walked free on technicalities or good lawyering. Point being, just throwing money and numbers at an investigation doesn't guarantee success.
Just because there were all the people and all the talent employed to find out what happened, it doesn't work well when those involved won't talk or lie. Couple that with active obstructionism, and it's a recipe for never getting at the truth of the matter ... which is probably the end result anyway.

whitnebrat Loc: In the wilds of Oregon

You all are juvenile delinquents ... I beta tested dirt.