maximus wrote:
Hello, whitnebrat, I don't consider you hateful, nor can you be according to your philosophy. To me, there was no division of the country until Trump won the election. There were some issues leading up to the election, but when the election came...BAM..half of the country pitched a fit ( seemed like to me) and pretty much said, "We ain't gonna accept Trump...he's got to go!" Looks to me like that message has only gotten louder in 2 1/2 years. Now tell me, after all the hope was based on Mueller and the report failed to convict Trump of anything, didn't bells start ringing in your head when Mueller suddenly became a traitor? Doesn't that smell kinda rotten in that it says democrats and liberals WILL NOT STOP UNTIL THEY GET THEIR WAY!!!
I know you are intelligent as you live by a philosophy that requires intelligence. Doesn't it strike you that if you shoot at somebody 32,000 times, ONE of those bullets will get lucky and take the target down? Is that the way Americans want the country to run? Does that not destroy the illusion that presidents are elected when a duly elected president cannot run the country because of defense, defense, defense all the time? Are we going to replace the rule of law with "We will never stop until we convict you of something!!!"
I for one hope that's not the case.
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Thank you for crediting me with a certain moral sense and some intelligence. I would respectfully disagree with your conclusions, however.
We progressives/liberals were wrong to assume that Trump could never win the election. We dismissed him as a buffoon, a misogynist and morally corrupt. The populace would never elect such a person to this high office, we asserted. We were wrong.
The indignation and outrage at the outcome of the election was that we realized that a morally corrupt and constitutionally ignorant person had achieved what we thought was impossible. We realized that the candidate that we put forward was not strong enough to repel the gutter politics that were employed in the race. We thought that it could never happen, but it did.
That realization has been a shock to the entire governmental system. Norms that existed for a hundred years or more are being ignored and upended. The refusal to accept that Congress and the federal Judiciary are co-equal branches of government is one of those norms.
The present administration's juggernaut of rolling over both Congress and most moral conventions is appalling to most progressives and even many independents that voted for it.
The policies put forth so far (if you can call them that) are regressive and put us into the situation that we were in prior to both WW1 and WW2, where were in an isolationist mode and got dragged kicking and screaming into major world conflicts.
Probably the one thing that bothers me (and many others) the most is the president's total inability or unwillingness to confront Putin about virtually any abuse that the Russians have perpetrated ... be it the interference in the election or the invasions of Georgia and the Ukraine, ... giving the Russian bear much more clout on the world stage. If you include the withdrawal from numerous treaties and trade deals, it becomes much more to Russia's advantage. You will probably say that this administration has been much tougher on Russia than any previous one with sanctions, but the weakening of NATO and the withdrawal of the US from major agreements outweighs any pressure that the sanctions have caused the Russians.
Yes, we libtards (as you call us) are aggrieved at the outcome of the election both on moral and political grounds. It was our own fault that it happened, and that simmering outrage resulted in the flip of the House of Representatives in 2018, resulting in all the investigations which Congress has every right to pursue. I personally view them as payback for all the slights over the first two years of the new administration, and as a result of the moral outrage and revulsion that such a person can be in the highest office of the land.
Just my humble opinion, your mileage may vary ... and undoubtedly will.