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Hey Julian Castro, PeterS, Kevyn and other progressives. A Solution to a Worker Shortage.
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Apr 25, 2019 10:58:44   #
Carol Kelly
 
crazylibertarian wrote:
FYI, I never said giving birth was painless.

You want to stop abortion? Don't have sex, especially at a time when conception is likely. And tell it to that woman that it's not simply her body; there's also the body of another distinct person.


It is my considered opinion after talking openly with women and girls who’ve had abortions, abortion is not painless either and the emotional conflict is felt for years. Of course, some of us are so selfish, it’s not worrying. The devil’s own children.

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Apr 25, 2019 11:28:30   #
crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
 
Sew_What wrote:
..either way, her body, if she wasn't given the opportunity to make a choice concerning a child that she doesn't want, is the issue. Clearly, the sperm donor isn't a noble person either. Why should she foot the bill for some jackasses lack of control?

All of this chatter from the likes of you, can be addressed, would you rather pay for prenatal care, adopting the child and raising, if not: abortion is legal. And if psycho Christians don't want to struggle with this anymore for a problem they do not want to own, then: adopt. Or convince kid's they are gay?
..either way, her body, if she wasn't given the op... (show quote)




What about her self control? Or was she so caught up in the heat of the moment that she had none? That attitude would set women's image back 100 years; a dime store novel come to life.

But, ah yes, in a moral argument, invoke money, the materialism that is at the heart of progressivism. It might cost a bit to have a child so kill it. Having a child is something of beauty but you people have no appreciation of life.

The likes of me? Your attitude bespeaks the arrogance and contempt that is part of parcel of the liberalism. You believe that you're better than everyone else.

Congratulations on your straw man arguments. They are thoroughly discredited in debate.

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Apr 25, 2019 11:31:25   #
JediKnight
 
crazylibertarian wrote:
Hey Julian Castro, PeterS, Kevyn and other progressives. A Solution to a Worker Shortage.

Last evening, Julian Castro, former Sec'y of HUD, former Mayor of San Antonio and current candidate for Democratic nomination for President, was on Tucker Carlson bemoaning a current shortage of workers that should be filed by immigrants.
https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/julian-castro-we-a-young-workforce-and-thus-immigrants-1503476291656

Hey Julian, I have another suggestion. What about the million or so fetuses that have been ripped out of their mothers' wombs and thrown out with the garbage in abortions every year? By now, about 40 million of them would have been citizens in their productive years.

Oh that's right. I forgot. They were 'choices,' not humans.

Rot, I say.
Hey Julian Castro, PeterS, Kevyn and other progres... (show quote)


Crazy: please help me understand something I have struggled with. Why do people such as you believe they have the right to tell someone else what to do with their body in childbirth? Do you allow people to tell you what food to eat or medicine to take or how to dress? Do you have people telling you which schools you can attend, what music choices to make or what car to drive? I have never understood why people get so bent out of shape about a woman's right to choose -especially when it comes to rape or incest. The bible teaches that we should "judge not - lest we be judged" and to "follow the law of the land" -so as long as it is legal who are you or anyone else to try and deny people that choice? As far as I'm concerned such choices are not for me to judge .....its between that person and God......just saying....

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Apr 25, 2019 11:39:37   #
Radiance3
 
Kevyn wrote:
Adults having sex is a criminal activity in your mind? Fortunately that has not been the case in the US for decades. Taxpayers do not pay a dime for abortion procedures although they should as part of any health coverage. Women do not use abortion as a form of birth control they use it to end an unwanted pregnancy when birth control fails.


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Yes, because when they baby is formed after sex, they run to PP to have them killed. Then they require the taxpayer to pay for the killing. After that they make babies again. Many of them from different male even when these male stink and are drug addicts. That is the democrats' women's way. They demand it is their right.

Disgusting, please get these democrat women away from me. I don't want them near me. I think they also stink, because they have no morals.

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Apr 25, 2019 11:46:16   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
Kevyn wrote:
Forcing American women who do not in any way want to have children to carry unwanted pregnancy to term is pure evil, and unconstitutional.


there a to many ways to keep from getting pregnant they need to try one

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Apr 25, 2019 11:50:38   #
bahmer
 
Kevyn wrote:
Forcing American women who do not in any way want to have children to carry unwanted pregnancy to term is pure evil, and unconstitutional.


Can you by chance pull up and paste that part of the constitution that specifically state what you says it does because I don't ever remember reading that in our constitution anywhere.

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Apr 25, 2019 11:58:30   #
JediKnight
 
bahmer wrote:
Can you by chance pull up and paste that part of the constitution that specifically state what you says it does because I don't ever remember reading that in our constitution anywhere.


Kevyn is probably talking about that part in the Preamble that says: "All men (mankind) were created equal with unalienable rights...among these are the rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness." I'm guessing, but Kevyn is probably also considering the fact that 'childbirth' is between the woman, her doctor, and ultimately God. What law gives anyone else the right to tell a woman what to do with her body regarding childbirth Bahmer? The Bible teaches: 1) judge not -lest ye be judged, and 2) follow the law of the land. Therefore, we should accept a woman's right to choose because it is legal, and any judgement of that woman is between her and God. If you have an issue with that, then why not work to change the law? In the meantime, consider your privilege to take ED medication, choose what car you wish to drive, what food you like to eat, what clothes you wear and how you present yourself as "rights" protected by the
Constitution. period.

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Apr 25, 2019 12:42:28   #
Sew_What
 
crazylibertarian wrote:
What about her self control? Or was she so caught up in the heat of the moment that she had none? That attitude would set women's image back 100 years; a dime store novel come to life.

But, ah yes, in a moral argument, invoke money, the materialism that is at the heart of progressivism. It might cost a bit to have a child so kill it. Having a child is something of beauty but you people have no appreciation of life.

The likes of me? Your attitude bespeaks the arrogance and contempt that is part of parcel of the liberalism. You believe that you're better than everyone else.

Congratulations on your straw man arguments. They are thoroughly discredited in debate.
What about her self control? Or was she so caught... (show quote)


Some research for you:

New research has found evidence that both men and women are prejudiced towards sexualized women. But only women are willing to endure a cost to themselves to punish a woman who appears to be promiscuous. The findings appear in Evolution and Human Behavior.

Across cultures, women and girls have been subjected to various attempts to control their sexuality. This has included slut shaming, female genital cutting, and honor killings.

The researchers from the University of Warwick wanted to better understand what motivates individuals to suppress female - but not male - sexuality. "If society is to understand and overcome the sexual double standard, interventionists should seek to uncover how men and women vary in their attitudes towards sexualized women," they explained.

In the study, participants played one of three kinds of economic decision-making games. The participants were led to believe they were playing against a female opponent in real-time, but were actually only interacting with computerized responses.

The opponents varied in whether they appeared to be sexually accessible or sexually restricted. For some participants, the opponent was depicted as a woman wearing a tight, red outfit and an abundance of makeup. For others, the opponent was depicted as a woman wearing loose-fitting clothing with less makeup.

The researchers found that both male and female participants were less willing to share money with a woman wearing the tight outfit. The participants also trusted sexually-accessible opponents with a financial investment less than sexually-restrictive opponents.

Women, but not men, were also willing to inflict punishments on a sexually-accessible female opponent who made an unfair offer, even though it left them empty-handed as well.

http://www.psypost.org/2018/12/women-but-not-men-seek-to-actively-punish-sexualized-women-study-finds-52838

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Apr 25, 2019 12:44:20   #
Sew_What
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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Yes, because when they baby is formed after sex, they run to PP to have them killed. Then they require the taxpayer to pay for the killing. After that they make babies again. Many of them from different male even when these male stink and are drug addicts. That is the democrats' women's way. They demand it is their right.

Disgusting, please get these democrat women away from me. I don't want them near me. I think they also stink, because they have no morals.


They don't want to be near you, and they promise they'll never bother you if you let them "operate" their own bodies as they see fit.

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Apr 25, 2019 12:45:50   #
crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
 
JediKnight wrote:
Crazy: please help me understand something I have struggled with. Why do people such as you believe they have the right to tell someone else what to do with their body in childbirth? Do you allow people to tell you what food to eat or medicine to take or how to dress? Do you have people telling you which schools you can attend, what music choices to make or what car to drive? I have never understood why people get so bent out of shape about a woman's right to choose -especially when it comes to rape or incest. The bible teaches that we should "judge not - lest we be judged" and to "follow the law of the land" -so as long as it is legal who are you or anyone else to try and deny people that choice? As far as I'm concerned such choices are not for me to judge .....its between that person and God......just saying....
Crazy: please help me understand something I have ... (show quote)



I have answered asinine questions such as this from people like you for years. Your tired cliché ridden arguments are boring. Read my other responses. I don't have time for such hackneyed challenges.

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Apr 25, 2019 12:53:11   #
TrueAmerican
 
Kevyn wrote:
Forcing American women who do not in any way want to have children to carry unwanted pregnancy to term is pure evil, and unconstitutional.


Ignorance does not absolve you from being humane !!!!!!

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Apr 25, 2019 12:55:14   #
TrueAmerican
 
Kevyn wrote:
Here is a solution for you, if you don’t want an abortion don’t have one. It is your choice not mine the governments or that of anyone else but you. Think about it like a tattoo, I do not like tattoos so I do not get one this does not give me the right to preclude you from getting one. You can have an image of a penis tattooed on your forehead and as stupid as that might be it is your choice not mine. The only role the government has is to make sure the tattoo parlor you go to operates in a safe sanitary manner. Carrying a pregnancy to term is many times greater a threat to a woman’s health and life than an first trimester abortion, to force a rape victim to go through an unwanted pregnancy is nothing short of monstrous. What kind of sick warped person thinks that women somehow should be forced to bear America children?
Here is a solution for you, if you don’t want an a... (show quote)


Trying out for the idiot Olympics again I see !!!!!!

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Apr 25, 2019 12:57:54   #
TrueAmerican
 
Kevyn wrote:
Adults having sex is a criminal activity in your mind? Fortunately that has not been the case in the US for decades. Taxpayers do not pay a dime for abortion procedures although they should as part of any health coverage. Women do not use abortion as a form of birth control they use it to end an unwanted pregnancy when birth control fails.


MORONS say and believe stupid ideas don't you think !!!!!!

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Apr 25, 2019 13:51:42   #
Loaper
 
Kevyn wrote:
Forcing American women who do not in any way want to have children to carry unwanted pregnancy to term is pure evil, and unconstitutional.


This is more than tiresome - you'd never win the evil argument even if just considering a comparison between the two actions of abortion versus right to life but get it through your heads - you're not listening to what most of those who "oppose" your attitude are saying. While you forever call out a women's right to choose, the other side calls out the sick statistical data. By far, most people would never deny a women's right to choose in any scenario except what represents multiple pregnancies by the same person or that of repeated carelessness or the BS claim that they can't afford birth control. These kinds of situations by far represent the great majority of all abortions performed in the country and are already a result of women's choice. Then top it off, you seem to think it's my and everyone else's responsibility to pay for millions of procedures through organizations like Planned Parenthood when there was nothing truly planned about it.

As long as you pay for it... go ahead ladies - have all the abortions you want for any reason you want. No-one on the planet should stand in your way. I am happy to let your "choices" be judged by the only being qualified to make them - whenever he decides to get around to it.

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Apr 25, 2019 14:16:23   #
crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
 
Don't bother responding to him.

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