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Hey Julian Castro, PeterS, Kevyn and other progressives. A Solution to a Worker Shortage.
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Apr 24, 2019 16:59:08   #
crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
 
Sew_What wrote:
What was your's, you were bragging about how painful birth is: have you given birth. If you haven't you have no idea what you're talking about, therefore why would I give your opinion about anything any credence.

You want to stop a******n: adopt and if she doesn't want to adopt, give her an a******n-it's her body.



FYI, I never said giving birth was painless.

You want to stop a******n? Don't have sex, especially at a time when conception is likely. And tell it to that woman that it's not simply her body; there's also the body of another distinct person.

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Apr 24, 2019 19:14:24   #
crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
 
And no one, no one, has responded to my challenge which was about the people who would have been workers filling the jobs that Julian Castro wants to be filled with immigrants.

Of course, PeterS and Kevyn, et al can't.

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Apr 24, 2019 21:35:04   #
RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia
 
crazylibertarian wrote:
Having a baby is not an invasive procedure; having an a******n is.


There are only three incontrovertible points in the development of life; conception, implantation and birth. All others are arbitrary.

By implantation being incontrovertible I take it you mean human life begins at the point of fertilization, I could agree or disagree with that statement because conception after causation can't be altered by human interference and eventual death the same but implantation coming about 5 days after conception has scope for human interaction, so in my view God must have been leaving it up to us for some reason I'm not sure about.

The point I'm making is there is no such thing as a medical decision that isn't the result of a political decision made at some stage of history, for example Roman Catholics believe that it's even wrong to use a method to prevent conception so human life is an enactment, you agree she agrees that's an enactment defined by legality, and disagreed fertilization the same its very much political governance not nature.

Roe vs. Wade was decided on the basis of a right of privacy which is found nowhere in The Constitution. By The Ninth & Tenth Amendments any right of privacy is therefore not the province of the federal government but to devolves to the states and the people respectively.
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Roe v. Wade I think it says righ here https://history.com
That the Court held that a woman's right to an a******n was implicit in the right to privacy protected by the 14 th. Ammendment.

It's really outside of my right to have a definite opinion about that as a foreigner rights are not universal foreigners influenced the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence and that is one reason I support the Founders of the Australian Constitution not having a manifesto of rights because attitudes about them change which we witnessed in 1973.

And I'm more of a Federalist I like things uniform, everyone has to agree that human life must be defined with a starting point.to avoid absurdity not only to do with beginning but also ending, for example are certain medical conditions best treated by lethal injection, when does human life begins and end has to have specific legal definitions.

Probably the Supreme will now go for a ban on a******n overruling the three trimester decision that to me is not adequate.

But even so I used the term "invasive" purposely on behalf of a woman who is not in keeping a positive attitude to being pregnant, for a woman with that mental disposition it woul appear to her that her body was certainly being invaded, but she would also have to realise and accept that the political legalities are beyond her control the same as many things outside of our individuals hands.

I've been married twice with 8 kids plus one ring in, I've done my fair share of keeping the population up and I would have married the supposed substitute that turned out to be the only genuine GF I ever had, only I didn't because I was escaping grave injustice being done to me at the time. I migh write a book about it one day, if I did would you purchase a copy if'n I signed it ? just wondering.

Thanks for the reply.

Sorry I seem to have mixed up some of my answer with your quote, it was complicated question and answer.



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Apr 25, 2019 06:48:57   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
Kevyn wrote:
Adults having sex is a criminal activity in your mind? Fortunately that has not been the case in the US for decades. Taxpayers do not pay a dime for a******n procedures although they should as part of any health coverage. Women do not use a******n as a form of birth control they use it to end an unwanted pregnancy when birth control fails.


"Taxpayers do not pay a dime for a******n procedures"
New Report Shows Planned Parenthood Raked in $1.5 Billion in Taxpayer Funds Over 3 Years:
https://www.heritage.org/marriage-and-family/commentary/new-report-shows-planned-parenthood-raked-15-billion-taxpayer-funds

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Apr 25, 2019 08:37:41   #
TommyRadd Loc: Midwest USA
 
crazylibertarian wrote:
You have to realize that all of progressivism is grounded in h**e & contempt and that a******n is the ultimate in h**e and contempt. Just read through the postings of the porgressives on OPP for confirmation.


True dat!

Well, except, technically, what we are dealing with are "l*****ts", not actually "progressives" or "liberals." Those are just terms l*****ts have hijacked to conceal their true collective identity.

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Apr 25, 2019 08:40:15   #
chuckybrass
 
crazylibertarian wrote:
It is difficult to imagine people more committed to progressive cliches than Kevyn and PeterS.


I had a patient who'd had a child through rape. She told me that she loved that child, no matter what. Of course, things like that don't matter to people like Kevyn; no sense, no feeling.


As Sen Phil Gramm said, the fetus is the innocent party in things like rape & incest. And, of course, that doesn't matter to pro-choice low-lifes. They're more concerned about the g****l w*****g h**x's effects on polar bears.
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Congratulations! You just made the case for less than 32,000 rape victims annually of which 1/3, (less than 11,000) actually want an a******n. Care to make an excuse for the other 628,000 babies aborted annually? Very flimsy rationalization.......

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Apr 25, 2019 08:43:32   #
bestpal38 Loc: Cedar City, Utah
 
Kevyn wrote:
Forcing American women who do not in any way want to have children to carry unwanted pregnancy to term is pure evil, and unconstitutional.

Other than in rape or incest cases, there is no excuse to become pregnant, if you are not ready to have a child. Abstinence is the best form of birth control, but if you can't go without, then find a new position.

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Apr 25, 2019 08:43:52   #
Sew_What
 
crazylibertarian wrote:
FYI, I never said giving birth was painless.

You want to stop a******n? Don't have sex, especially at a time when conception is likely. And tell it to that woman that it's not simply her body; there's also the body of another distinct person.


Yea, and that has been very successful with teenagers in the last decade.

As of 2018, there was 30% reduction in teen pregnancies...although, maybe more women are taking the pill.

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Apr 25, 2019 08:44:39   #
Sew_What
 
chuckybrass wrote:
Congratulations! You just made the case for less than 32,000 rape victims annually of which 1/3, (less than 11,000) actually want an a******n. Care to make an excuse for the other 628,000 babies aborted annually? Very flimsy rationalization.......


Unless you've been raped and the police seem to think that you're a s**t.

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Apr 25, 2019 08:45:18   #
Sew_What
 
America 1 wrote:
"Taxpayers do not pay a dime for a******n procedures"
New Report Shows Planned Parenthood Raked in $1.5 Billion in Taxpayer Funds Over 3 Years:
https://www.heritage.org/marriage-and-family/commentary/new-report-shows-planned-parenthood-raked-15-billion-taxpayer-funds


Because they offer "other services" besides a******ns.

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Apr 25, 2019 09:15:03   #
chuckybrass
 
Sew_What wrote:
Unless you've been raped and the police seem to think that you're a s**t.


Is that before you find out you're pregnant, or six months later..........

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Apr 25, 2019 09:40:12   #
crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
 
America 1 wrote:
"Taxpayers do not pay a dime for a******n procedures"
New Report Shows Planned Parenthood Raked in $1.5 Billion in Taxpayer Funds Over 3 Years:
https://www.heritage.org/marriage-and-family/commentary/new-report-shows-planned-parenthood-raked-15-billion-taxpayer-funds



I was taken aback by that statement by Kevyn thinking that I might be wrong but let it go and now you've proven again that I was right to doubt him. This happens a lot. Kevyn cites things as fact that just aren't and he just continues doing it. This is a testament to his credibility. From here on, we should all demand that he cite his sources. Or maybe it would be best to just ignore him.




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Apr 25, 2019 10:23:42   #
Sew_What
 
chuckybrass wrote:
Is that before you find out you're pregnant, or six months later..........


..either way, her body, if she wasn't given the opportunity to make a choice concerning a child that she doesn't want, is the issue. Clearly, the sperm donor isn't a noble person either. Why should she foot the bill for some jackasses lack of control?

All of this chatter from the likes of you, can be addressed, would you rather pay for prenatal care, adopting the child and raising, if not: a******n is legal. And if psycho Christians don't want to struggle with this anymore for a problem they do not want to own, then: adopt. Or convince kid's they are gay?

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Apr 25, 2019 10:40:01   #
F.D.R.
 
The 'worker shortage' should first be addressed by training people currently collecting welfare.

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Apr 25, 2019 10:53:19   #
Carol Kelly
 
Kevyn wrote:
Forcing American women who do not in any way want to have children to carry unwanted pregnancy to term is pure evil, and unconstitutional.


Then they shouldn’t have sex. There was once something called abstaining. It’s better to wish you had than to wish you hadn’t. K*****g babies is murder, not birth control.

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