vernon

i read it ,i am not impressed .the author(main)is just a green pushing their ideas enviro extremism.where we lived about 40 yrs ago we had water like that pictured and maybe worse.we complained almost every month but when they wanted a rate increase we went to the meeting with a jar of it and that was when we got action it still took them 9 mos to clean it up.now if what Main says is true ,which i doubt it can be cleaned just get the govt to go to work if that dosent work go public.but i believe if you checked you would find it has been and found false.

Terry Hamblin

OK, we have beaten this into shape and figured out that:

1.- Big oil will win because they have big bucks, meaning that they will buy the rights to exploit a cow flop if they think that they can keep it out of the hands of a rival.

2.- I remember the "energy independence" mumblings during the oil crisis in 1977, more or less, pure folly, since the only reason for the crisis was that the mid-east oil barons were squeezing the world to form the OPEC cartel. Name any of them and you will also find out who we are sending billions of dollars to, I guess to feed the subjects of the "Royal" families while each one of the elite are buying and discarding Mercedes, one of which is completely made out of gold!

3.- Now that we know that the Braken oil field in North Dakota, Montana and some of Canada can supply the U.S. with oil at the present rate for 400 years, will it? Hell no, big oil already bought all of the rights. Why doesn't the U.S. say "I'm out of OPEC"? As usual, no balls no blue chips. We can not let big oil and big business dictate who we are! Remember, we are still the largest consumer nation in the world. Sell your shit to Bangladesh, Somalia, Kenya.... Get it!

4.- Are we convinced that fracking is bad? I'm not, and I think that especially if is done in remote places like North Dakota, Montana, etc. no harm, but big oil should be testing to ensure that their systems are working without polluting, and clean it up if it is. Of course fracking done in the middle of 42nd. street might not be cool, be like a cat covering poop on an interstate!

5.- The point I am trying to make in all of these forum initiatives is that if we the people don't force it to be corrected it will not be corrected.

emarine

Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon

Any thing to support industry over people

Dave Loc: Upstate New York

One of the great things about this country is you can live near or away from anything you want to - and you can even be so factually challenged as to presume a Vice President can change laws and regulations and a President in office for 5 years is unable to change things.

Dave Loc: Upstate New York

I have watched on television space aliens landing, children possessed by the devil with strange and evil powers, and politicians creating false stories to convince those who are so minimally informed that they think something on TV is by definition true that they need to grant government more and more control over them - I've even seen stories about totalitarian governments and the inherent corruption power brings. Suggest you try more channels.

Dave Loc: Upstate New York

Next you'll be going on about the Trilateral Commisssion - GM recalled the EV 1 vehicles they rented - mostly to rich celebrities - and destroyed them because of the potential for law suites - if you believe the garbage you spew out you'd believe darned near anything.

Dave Loc: Upstate New York

So, how well do you know the CEO of Exxon? Do you even know his name, let alone where he lives, let alone why he lives wherever he does?

Dave Loc: Upstate New York

You do go on, and one wonders where you get this stuff - like thinking that the US in in OPEC - it never was, is not and is never likely to be a member of OPEC. Your factual confusion on this issue alone is evidence enough regarding your total confusion

Terry Hamblin

Sorry Dave, you are truly a scholar and a gentleman. Since the U.S. is not in OPEC, mainly I think because the U.S. has not been exporting oil to any extent for years. It just seemed to me that the U.S. supports a bunch of rat bags by not refining our oil and selling it in the U.S.. Maybe the really smart dudes that we have in Congress are afraid that OPEC would stop using the dollar as the international trading currency. Tough for me to look into the whys and why-nots of that, but it would be fun to tell the Arabs to stick their oil.

I was born in Syracuse, so cut me some slack!!

Dave Loc: Upstate New York

The US has not been a member of OPEC because the US was never invited, and probably wouldn't join if we were invited. Your point regarding support of them may not be far off the mark - there are plenty of knowledgeable people who think that Nixon/Kissinger's quiet acceptance of OPEC was an attempt to provide the Shah of Iran funding to be our surrogate in the area - that we could have quashed it at birth if we wanted to.

The oil independence that was discussed back when the Dept of Energy was created during the Carter Administration was based on the idea of creating alternates and reducing usage - it had nothing to do with expanding oil extraction in the US. As a matter of fact, there was no viable way to significantly increase oil production here due to the relatively low cost of production elsewhere and the realtively high cost of extraction here with technology that existed then.

However, once again the market based capitalistic system provided alternatives - the current extraction technology that make it possible for American total independence - and even possibly an exporter - was developed completely and totally with private funding and on private land.

ginger

His is name is Rex Tillerson and he lives in a wealthy community outside Dallas. He went to a community meeting where he stated that he was sueing Exxon to keep the dangerous well out of his community. Check it out yourself mr. knowitall.

Dave Loc: Upstate New York

So, let's take this one step at a time. The CEO of Exxon is suing Exxon to keep a dangerous well out of his community? I may not know it all, but I'm not goofy enough to think the CEO of Exxon has no influence on where they have wells without going to a court - but then there are people who believe in alien life forms roaming earth, so your goofy belief isn't necessarily the furthest one from reality.

Terry Hamblin

Your last paragraph Dave, has the point, and very well stated by you, that I have tried to make many times and in many places. To my knowledge the U.S. has been exporting some oil, probably to England, but then I don't know for sure. If I was in charge we would build refineries all over in Missouri, Kansas, and Oklahoma, pipe the oil from the Braken field there and then truck it to ourselves, but at a real price, not artificial highs and lows and summer gas and winter gas along with all of the other things that we are being scammed with. This country NEEDS cheap gasoline to function and to drop prices on everything that is transported by truck!

ginger

All I did was search CEO Exxon and got the story. Maybe this is his way of getting the secret out?
The north eastern part of Texas, which has NEVER had an earthquake in history, has had 41 earthquakes since they put in the fracking wells. Probably not on local tv. Not real serious quakes yet. 1.4 to 2.4.