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Mar 21, 2014 17:14:28   #
ginger
 
vernon wrote:
e thats just an anti gas movie and all the things shown were not caused bu fracking.any gas in the water is from shallow gas right at the surface.fracking is done 8 to 10k feet lower ,i dont think you help the situation with scare movies that the epa debunked all ready.


I have watched on television about some near these fracking wells having their livestock die, their children getting sick, their water catching fire. IF they sue, they have to sign a gag order and move out of state to get a settlement.

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Mar 21, 2014 18:58:07   #
vernon
 
ginger wrote:
I have watched on television about some near these fracking wells having their livestock die, their children getting sick, their water catching fire. IF they sue, they have to sign a gag order and move out of state to get a settlement.



all this shit has been debunked by epa investagition
just scare talk

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Mar 21, 2014 19:02:47   #
vernon
 
permafrost wrote:
It makes no difference if you like foreign oil or not, that is what sets the US price for oil. You pay the price in any event...I would guess you do not have any issue with pollution in the Gulf, which has possibly reached the tipping point now. We have continuing leaks for worn out capped wells and "stopped pumping" wells.. But what the heck, lets keep dumping more into the gulf, can not hurt anymore. Right...


you enviro creeps just talk scare talk ol gore has been saying we will be have 10 yrs until the end (we are still here)ted sansen said that we had 15 years(ill here





























































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Mar 21, 2014 19:08:27   #
vernon
 
Brian Devon wrote:
Does the left have no conscience at all?

Actually we do. That's why we were are supporters of civil rights, gender equality, and environmental protections,as well as food and housing security, brought about by fair wages.

The GOP conscience? Doesn't exist.

GOP stands for Greed, Opportunism, and Pillaging (the environment).

:thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown:


that is the most stupid remark of the day.

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Mar 21, 2014 19:16:22   #
vernon
 
emarine wrote:
One funny thing about gas, IT RISES, same with crude oil, the failure rate of the drilling casings is over 80%, check it out, I for one would not live anywhere near a fracking site, The deregulation of the clean water act by Cheney was to prevent major law suits against Halliburton the main supplier of drilling casings in the USA, If you choose to follow up on this check into the effects of benzene on humans, a common fracking chemical , when you study the practices of the oil industry over the years, the EPA has debunked nothing, they just don't charge enough for the fines to stop anything that generates massive profits, fracking allows the pumping of undisclosed chemicals "Haz mat" into the ground, This saves the industry from having to pay to dispose of them properly.
One funny thing about gas, IT RISES, same with cru... (show quote)


as to where you want to live thats your business,there as been nothing proved about all these instences.send me one and ill chack it out ,you know facts.

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Mar 21, 2014 19:22:35   #
emarine
 
Dave wrote:
Check into the Marcellus lode

Meanwhile, according to some folks Bush bypassed Congress far more than Obama - seems he was able to re-write tax laws and so forth - even somehow got GM to defund it failed EV 1 program.

Let me write this slow - Bush was never able to pass any legislation without bi-partisan support - and Bush did not claim the power to use phone and pen to bypass Congress - and if opposing Obama is racist, is opposing Bush also racist?


This was about W VS Putin not Obama, the Marcellus Lode is included in the link data I provided, The EV 1 did not fail, It was ordered to close down and all the patents GM had were sold to Texaco oil as was the new battery patent that was needed to have the EV 1 meet the mileage requirements set by the Feds, This was not the first time big oil has derailed American exceptionalism, we gave up a huge R&D lead over Honda.

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Mar 21, 2014 20:01:20   #
Terry Hamblin
 
The "Green" stuff has been a great money-maker since somebody invented it! Plastic grocery bags instead of paper bags, whoops, plastic bags never go away. Hum, back to paper bags, no, no, all of our forests will be gone! Not if the trees cut down for pulp make fire lanes and the surrounding forest is cleared of brush and dead falls. Then you have the Boy Scouts plant pine saplings which will grow in and allow other fire lanes to be cut, rejuvenating the forest. Just one example of sensible forest preservation, but we the people would rather jump at some outlandish claim by a TV show, and muddle the issue completely.

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Mar 21, 2014 20:11:27   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
Thank you very much Iggy. You speak the truth
Iggy Rat wrote:
Parachute Creek. Parachute Colorado. Six years ago there was great trout fishing for miles along this creek which empties directly into the Colorado River. Since the Rigs went up on Piceance Creek {which lies above it} THERE ARE NO FISH LEFT!! This from a Colorado local who has actually WORKED in the oil field. This is not a Right-wing conspiracy theory; This is eyewitness testimony. Established fact.

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Mar 21, 2014 20:37:09   #
ginger
 
vernon wrote:
all this shit has been debunked by epa investagition
just scare talk


That would be why the CEO of Exxon doesn't want it any where near his house. Because it's soooo pure and harmless!

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Mar 21, 2014 20:40:15   #
vernon
 
ginger wrote:
That would be why the CEO of Exxon doesn't want it any where near his house. Because it's soooo pure and harmless!



gosh your really on the inside with the oil kings

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Mar 21, 2014 21:11:15   #
emarine
 
vernon wrote:
as to where you want to live thats your business,there as been nothing proved about all these instences.send me one and ill chack it out ,you know facts.


Sure thing vern.. :thumbup: Chack out this one http://www.livescience.com/40122-fracking-wastewaster-radioactive-contaminated.html :lol:

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Mar 21, 2014 21:14:45   #
emarine
 
vernon wrote:
gosh your really on the inside with the oil kings


You may want to ask for a radioactive protection hat while you run interference for the "oil kings" Vern :lol:

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Mar 21, 2014 22:08:17   #
LurkingTom Loc: North Dakota
 
permafrost wrote:
4 Years After Deepwater Horizon Oil Spill, EPA Lifts BP’s Gulf Drilling Ban




Nearly four years after the BP Deepwater Horizon oil and gas disaster in the Gulf of Mexico—an event that blew away the record books for the nation’s worst accidental oil spill—BP is fully back in business, and drilling is booming in the Gulf of Mexico.

Outrageous! The EPA all too CLEARLY works for the corporations and BIG OIL. Despite all the continued havoc rippling through the ecosystems in the Gulf from the DeepWater calamity, and likely to continue for generations, the Environmental PROTECTION Agency green-lights more drilling? Why? Have there been some developments - such as how to cope with disasters like DeepWater without dumping millions of gallons of even more toxic dispersants? No. Look for more ruination, deformed fish, drowned birds, dead manatees and blind shrimp to come.... I'm utterly disgusted.
4 Years After Deepwater Horizon Oil Spill, EPA Lif... (show quote)


HA HA HA Huh?

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Mar 21, 2014 22:22:21   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
Lurking Tom I have been waiting too long for you to bring me my Glass of Barry- aid with a straw and crushed ice. I might have to Fire you. Hard to find good servants these days
LurkingTom wrote:
HA HA HA Huh?


:-D :-D :-D :D :D :D

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Mar 22, 2014 08:54:12   #
Terry Hamblin
 
emarine wrote:


Conjecture, not science. :hunf:

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