vernon

what do you know about warren ,im sure you know dean .

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

A monopoly can exist when a few companies operate as a single provider/holder would do. A single co controlling the product is clear and evident. As far as the consumer is concerned, the same failed market system is in operation when several companys act with a single purpose. The effect to the consumer is inflated prices and limited choice.

With pharmaceuticals, the practice of allowing a single drug co to have exclusive rights to a new drug or medication allows them to drive up price to the level they wish and no alternative meds or generic versions can be found.. A practice far removed from any kind of free market system..

Dave Loc: Upstate New York

A few companies controlling an industry is not a monopoly, it may be an oligopoly - however if you think oil production is an oligopoly you remain confused. The largest private company in the industry - Mobil - is a fraction of the size of any number of government run competitors - be they in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Russia, Venezuela, Mexico and many others. Facts are difficult things to deal with when one has absolute faith in false premises.

If several companies are operating to control the price of oil in America, Obama and Holder are incompetent because that is clearly a violation of existing law - which I doubt you even realize.

If, however, several companies are working to expand the market for their products, that's called free market capitalism - and if you don't like that system tell us the one you want.

As to drug patents, are you even slightly aware that this condition exists in virtually every industry where free market capitalism is the system?

I suspect you'd prefer a system like those that have failed each and every time tried - even Red China learned the lesson folks like you haven't yet. Is there hope for folks like you? Increasingly the answer seems to be no.

Terry Hamblin

[quote=permafrost]Terry, look at my ID tab, it tells where I am from...

Cars in my state have catalytic converters, pcv valves, That is probably the "little plastic part" that concerns you, I paid once to replace that, I was robbed $20 buck to do that. Never had to replace a converter, but usually only get 190,000 mi or so out of a car..

If your car is not designed to burn ethanol, what the hell are doing putting it in the tank at all?

I once made a still and produced a bit of ethanol, burned it in an old JD tractor, did fine, I could not detect any lose of power and found no problem with the engine..

Those fields of corn you look at, they are not sweet corn, they are not meant to be fed to people. That is animal feed, for cattle and hogs.. The fact that it can also make alcohol is minor..


The first opponent to nuclear energy I met was a Hungarian refugee on a construction job one summer long ago. He tossed gasoline bombs at Russian tanks so I paid attention. I remain convinced that as nuclear exists today is not the right solution.. We will have more Chernobyl and whatever the Japanese plant is called..

The grid is old and like much of Americas infrastructure needs to be rebuilt.. Congress needs to agree with Obama and get the work done.. Many good jobs and a great need. It can be done, when the 35 bridge fell in Minneapolis, they got the replacement designed and built in record time.. When the pols stop fighting they can accomplish the task, now as always..

About your feud with California, I can not help you I was at pendleton and San Diego for a couple years. I like the state a lot but it has more people then I care to deal with..
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My bad on the state, although I survived a winter in Minnesota in 1974, just barely, while I was working on Prairie Island Nuclear Plant. Chernobyl brought to light what Admiral Rickover detected when he visited the Soviet Union in about 1955. The Soviets knew nothing at all about radiation and radiation protection, hence the Admiral immediately made our Navy Rad-Con manuals Top Secret!
Chernobyl was a swimming pool reactor, which are mainly for testing but the Soviets, with zero technology decided to make them bigger and produce power with them, no re-enforced steel and concrete reactor building to prevent a possible radiation escape in the event of an accident, like Prairie Island and all of the American reactor plants have. The Japanese Plants are Boiling water reactors, absolutely the worst of the best in a region that is prone to earthquakes and volcanic activity, however, adequate in usual conditions. The Tsunami MOVED the entire island about 3 feet! That's a holy crap, act of God accident!

On my car rant, you must be talking about 19980s cars because I have a 2005 model and the valve had some kind of a weird name and the only way I knew there was anything wrong was because the check engine light came on, 455$ later I had a new little plastic valve somewhere under the hood. I hope I never have to change the catalytic converter because I have heard the horror stories, in fact crooks are stealing them because of the "precious" metals inside. All this goes along with "struts" which cost around 800$ to change. What I am saying is that Congress bows to the wishes of the green lobbies and we pay through the nose!

The ethanol statement was simply this, sweet corn prices have gone up because farmers get paid handsomely by the Government to grow field corn for ethanol production so they do that instead of growing some sweet corn, thus the price of sweet corn goes through the roof, and you seconded it, by saying that the corn you see growing is for animals and ethanol production and is not sweet corn, right you were but guess what, you also have to plant and grow sweet corn! In fact I did grow sweet corn when I was a kid, it doesn't just show up!
I am forced to put something like 15% ethanol in my car in the summer, why, maybe it doesn't do well in the winter? The comment on ethanol destroying engines was about a 25% ethanol fuel that only runs in vehicles designed for it, and I saw a newspaper article about people putting the stuff in a regular engine and destroying it. We all know that you can't fix stupid!

The I-35 bridge collapse was horrible, I remember crossing that bridge a lot. Just think, if Obama had re-instituted the WPA that FDR used, instead of bailouts and "stimulus" packages that did nothing more than give the Banks more money to hoard, we could have put millions back to work on our infrastructure and solved huge problems all the way around. Now Mr. Wonderful has no money to work with and the number of unsafe bridges is multiplying exponentially.

California is beautiful, oh, BTW did you buy a house in San Diego?

Dave Loc: Upstate New York

[quote=Terry Hamblin]

So, all we need is Congress to bow to Obama - give him more money for shovel ready jobs and trust that exploding federal debt is no problem. Nice to live in such a simple world.

emarine

except for coal Russia has more reserve oil and nat gas ....http://www.businessinsider.com/countries-with-most-energy-reserves-2014-2?op=1, On the Bush tax breaks, 2000 all vehicles over 6500lbs purchased could be written off in one year even used cars or trucks, that was an incentive to buy larger SUVs and V8 trucks instead of small economy cars.. Bush also put a fast end the electric car R&D with the EV 1 defunding in 2000, Bush deregulated the oil industry in his first term and promoted inefficiency just about the exact opposite from the Clinton administration,

ginger

Warren, She thinks she should stay right where she is for now. She might be convinced to be VP if the Pres. is the right one. But she wants to stay in the senate so she might someday be able to prosecute some of those to big to fail bankers that raked us over the coals, and are trying to do it again. She believes in fighting for the working class because without us there is no country. She put a pretty good beat down on Scott Brown. But then he did a lot of that all by himself. Maybe it taught him to not be racist.
We'll see. He thinks he's going to run in NH.

emarine

My point was starting in 2000 when W and Putin first started out, we went from a surplus and balanced budget to the brink of destruction in 8 years while Russia gained considerably in power and wealth, I am not saying we should follow Russia's path, but I think the oil company's need to pay more in tax, many Military deployments have been in the oil cos best interests over the years, In reality the Military consumes 1/3 of our budget if you figure in all the variables, Putin covers their Military from energy profits and Russia has little debt were at 17 trillion, Have you added up the profits from all the energy sources in America for the past 14 years? They should at least pay their fair share of tax.

ginger

Fracking- The use of water under extreme pressure forced into the earth to break through to where the gas can be found. Said water is then extracted, it now has to be put/kept in containment due to the poisons that came back with it.
Hell, the CEO of Exxon has started a law suite against his own company because they were/are going to put one of these fracking wells about a mile from his house. In the suite he says that the water, if it leaks will kill his horses and even the fumes are poison.

Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon

I don't want to be near a fracking site wher I have to drink from a well.Would you drink at a fracking site Dave?

Iggy Rat Loc: Lost in America

Parachute Creek. Parachute Colorado. Six years ago there was great trout fishing for miles along this creek which empties directly into the Colorado River. Since the Rigs went up on Piceance Creek {which lies above it} THERE ARE NO FISH LEFT!! This from a Colorado local who has actually WORKED in the oil field. This is not a Right-wing conspiracy theory; This is eyewitness testimony. Established fact.

vernon

if your talking about big oil just remember who let them merge and in case you dont know it was good old bill you know our first black pres.

emarine

Check it out... its only a few minutes .... you should watch the whole film....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZe1AeH0Qz8

vernon

e thats just an anti gas movie and all the things shown were not caused bu fracking.any gas in the water is from shallow gas right at the surface.fracking is done 8 to 10k feet lower ,i dont think you help the situation with scare movies that the epa debunked all ready.

vernon

i would this is just scare talk by the green activist who are all commies and very prone to lie ie obama and pelosy and reid.